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Re: Target Parsons: Should we make an Offer?
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2014, 09:28:27 AM »

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Thing is we have almost $20m locked up in SF's, so any move to get another one Parsons/Hayward can only be done if we move at least one of Wallace/Green. I'd prefer to move both. If the C's decide to go young than I hope they buy out Wallace.

Re: Target Parsons: Should we make an Offer?
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2014, 09:39:24 AM »

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Thing is we have almost $20m locked up in SF's, so any move to get another one Parsons/Hayward can only be done if we move at least one of Wallace/Green. I'd prefer to move both. If the C's decide to go young than I hope they buy out Wallace.
according to nba salary cap FAQ, a buy out of wallace would not help:

67. How do buyouts affect team salary?

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q67

Any guaranteed salary still owed to the player as the result of a buyout continues to be included in team salary, just as with any waived player.

wallace will be an albatross for one more season, plain and simple. as for parsons, i only know his stats, not his defense, team play, etc.

could anyone here chime in and let us all know more on parsons?
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Re: Target Parsons: Should we make an Offer?
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2014, 09:45:54 AM »

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Thing is we have almost $20m locked up in SF's, so any move to get another one Parsons/Hayward can only be done if we move at least one of Wallace/Green. I'd prefer to move both. If the C's decide to go young than I hope they buy out Wallace.
according to nba salary cap FAQ, a buy out of wallace would not help:

67. How do buyouts affect team salary?

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q67

Any guaranteed salary still owed to the player as the result of a buyout continues to be included in team salary, just as with any waived player.

wallace will be an albatross for one more season, plain and simple. as for parsons, i only know his stats, not his defense, team play, etc.

could anyone here chime in and let us all know more on parsons?

http://www.thedreamshake.com/2014/2/8/5375926/a-statistical-view-where-does-parsons-rank-among-the-top-small
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Re: Target Parsons: Should we make an Offer?
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2014, 09:47:31 AM »

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Rockets didn't pick up his option so that means they will go all out on Melo..if they get Melo, then we can offer him a contract..but have to trade Green first
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Re: Target Parsons: Should we make an Offer?
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2014, 09:51:25 AM »

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It was said earlier in the month that the Celtics had a trade partner for Green.  If we were able to move him...and thats a big if...I would be glad to give Parsons Greens contract.

Re: Target Parsons: Should we make an Offer?
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2014, 10:45:02 AM »

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Thing is we have almost $20m locked up in SF's, so any move to get another one Parsons/Hayward can only be done if we move at least one of Wallace/Green. I'd prefer to move both. If the C's decide to go young than I hope they buy out Wallace.
according to nba salary cap FAQ, a buy out of wallace would not help:

67. How do buyouts affect team salary?

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q67

Any guaranteed salary still owed to the player as the result of a buyout continues to be included in team salary, just as with any waived player.

wallace will be an albatross for one more season, plain and simple. as for parsons, i only know his stats, not his defense, team play, etc.

could anyone here chime in and let us all know more on parsons?

http://www.thedreamshake.com/2014/2/8/5375926/a-statistical-view-where-does-parsons-rank-among-the-top-small
good read. thanks and a tp.  :)
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Re: Target Parsons: Should we make an Offer?
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2014, 10:58:40 AM »

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Wonder if they'd take Green, if the C's threw in a couple of those non-guaranteed contracts? Green has the history with Harden and I still believe the guy is the perfect #3 option. I think Parsons is a better fit in Stevens' offense and would no doubt bring more consistency.  Just throwing it out there, but how many wins in the East does this team get you?

Rondo
Smart
Parsons
Sully
Gortat

Bench - Young, Olynyk, Bass, Wallace, Faverani and additional FA's that could be brought in

I actually think that team has a shot at the playoffs....In that conference, especially.







Re: Target Parsons: Should we make an Offer?
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2014, 11:08:34 AM »

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NO way you get in the playoffs with two guards who are no or minimal perimeter threats.

Rondo and Smart are never going to work together on the floor. It's playing three on five from the perimeter.
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Re: Target Parsons: Should we make an Offer?
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2014, 11:17:34 AM »

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Isn't this a little bit like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic when the difference between the two players is not great and the age difference is two years and we have such huge decisions to make (Rondo. Love offer, and finding a center)? Parsons contract could get really ridiculous for a non allstar.

Re: Target Parsons: Should we make an Offer?
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2014, 11:20:42 AM »

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A little bit.

But as it stands now, with no other roster moves, Rondo is going to walk so we're going to have more money to play with.

In a perfect world, I'd rather spend that money on someone other than Chandler Parsons. But we're going to have a mess of a roster at the end of the next season - again with no roster changes from now - so we will have zero to attract free agents.
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Re: Target Parsons: Should we make an Offer?
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2014, 11:23:18 AM »

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NO way you get in the playoffs with two guards who are no or minimal perimeter threats.

Rondo and Smart are never going to work together on the floor. It's playing three on five from the perimeter.

Why don't you think they will? To say Smart won't develop his shot would be under the aassumption he isn't a hard worker/gym rat type. BBut from what I understand that's one of his biggest strengths. He's an elite finisher with great vision. Rondo has always brought max potential out of players and I truly feel RR and Smart will become an extremely potent back court.
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Re: Target Parsons: Should we make an Offer?
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2014, 11:45:38 AM »

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NO way you get in the playoffs with two guards who are no or minimal perimeter threats.

Rondo and Smart are never going to work together on the floor. It's playing three on five from the perimeter.

Why don't you think they will? To say Smart won't develop his shot would be under the aassumption he isn't a hard worker/gym rat type. BBut from what I understand that's one of his biggest strengths. He's an elite finisher with great vision. Rondo has always brought max potential out of players and I truly feel RR and Smart will become an extremely potent back court.

3point shooting and floor spacing for guards are paramount in today's NBA.  Your guards have to able able to do that or there wont be any penetrating lanes. Defenses will just clog the middle and dare them to shoot. Add in Bradley and that's the worst shooting back court in the league. Smart 42 % from the field and 29% from 3 last year---  that aint gonna cut it folks, not from a 2 guard playing with Rondo.
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Re: Target Parsons: Should we make an Offer?
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2014, 12:02:20 PM »

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What Houston wants is cap space, so we'd have to take Lin.

Here's something that works:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=od2ewn6

Boston Lineup
Smart/Lin
Bradley/McLemore
Parsons/Green
Sullinger/Bass
Thompson/Olynyk

Houston Lineup
Beverley/Thomas
Harden/Garcia
[sign Melo or Lebron]/Casspi
Jones/Motiejunas
Howard/Capela

Sacramento Lineup
Rondo/McCallum
Thornton/Stauskas
Gay/Outlaw
Williams/Landry
Cousins/Gray

Now, why Houston would do this over a S&T with Miami or NY (don't lose assets unless they get Melo or Bron, guaranteed) I don't know. But it's worth a shot.

Re: Target Parsons: Should we make an Offer?
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2014, 01:15:53 PM »

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NO way you get in the playoffs with two guards who are no or minimal perimeter threats.

Rondo and Smart are never going to work together on the floor. It's playing three on five from the perimeter.

But yet, people were positive that Rondo & Bradley would work? Smart has very good length...He's still going to score b/c he's going to get to the rack and he's going to score in transition consistently. I actually believe his low shooting percentages had more to do with shot selection than the shot itself. His shot is NOT broken, we're talking one or two minor tweaks (Stop bringing the ball up from his knees and stay squared to the hoop) and he'll be much better. When he didn't force shots up, he was much better. I do wonder if part of that was him trying to prove he was a better shooter to scouts. Maybe now that he's been drafted, he'll stop pressing. With his work ethic, I'll bet on him being better as time goes on.

And, even if you wanted to disregard Rondo & Smart as offensive threats, that 3-4-5 would be darn good offensively. Let's not forget that Stevens runs that action offense and that will get guys open. shots.

Re: Target Parsons: Should we make an Offer?
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2014, 01:28:35 PM »

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Green does have better numbers as well....it just his inconsistency that drives fans, coaches, reporters, and Im sure his teammates crazy.

If he played half as hard every night as Parsons , he'd be on the All Star team

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