Celts want smart and rondo to work but imo it wont

[Rondo9]

Plan A: trade Rondo this summer.
Plan B: trade Rondo at the deadline.
Plan C: lose Rondo to FA for nothing.

  Lucky it's Danny doing the planning and not the posters.

Unless he makes a major splash this summer he doesn't have a choice on whether Rondo stays or goes. Rondo is gone unless he's competing for a cahmpionship.

  Can you point me to some quotes where Rondo says he's leaving if we're not competing for a championship by the time his contract is up, or did he tell you that himself?

He didn't say it.

Do you think Rondo will re sign for a multi year rebuild turning 30 in the first year of his contract?

 We are having good natured conversations and banter, I'm not sure why "did he tell you that himself is necessary." We speculate on here all the time? Geez settle.

Well how do you know that Rondo is gone if Danny doesn't do anything?

[ticket18]

That's pretty standard talk for that dude, just ignore him and hopefully he goes away.

"That dude" is a respected CB veteran who's probably accumulated more goodwill around here than the two of  you taken together.

Hate to take this line of discourse, but this is thread about Smart and Rondo, not about Tim.

And as a new member that is what I made it about. I didn't make sarcastic or provocative comments.

[kozlodoev]

He didn't say it.

Do you think Rondo will re sign for a multi year rebuild turning 30 in the first year of his contract?

 We are having good natured conversations and banter, I'm not sure why "did he tell you that himself is necessary." We speculate on here all the time? Geez settle.

He will or he won't, there isn't enough to think one way or the other. You can speculate all you want, and then it's also fair game to speculate that he won't leave. Don't have to act like either of the two is a foregone conclusion.

By the way, Jeff put together a pretty nice digest of Rondo's thoughts on the issue:
http://www.celticsblog.com/2014/6/2/5774534/rajon-rondo-wants-to-stay-in-boston-has-faith-in-danny-ainge

[kozlodoev]

That's pretty standard talk for that dude, just ignore him and hopefully he goes away.

"That dude" is a respected CB veteran who's probably accumulated more goodwill around here than the two of  you taken together.

Hate to take this line of discourse, but this is thread about Smart and Rondo, not about Tim.

And as a new member that is what I made it about. I didn't make sarcastic or provocative comments.

No, someone else did, in fact. I'm less concerned with firing salt and pepper back and forward, but hinting that other people should "go away" ruffles my feather.

Regardless, I've said enough on this, I think. Back to the topic at hand.

[Jailan34]

Plan A: trade Rondo this summer.
Plan B: trade Rondo at the deadline.
Plan C: lose Rondo to FA for nothing.

  Lucky it's Danny doing the planning and not the posters.

Unless he makes a major splash this summer he doesn't have a choice on whether Rondo stays or goes. Rondo is gone unless he's competing for a cahmpionship.

  Can you point me to some quotes where Rondo says he's leaving if we're not competing for a championship by the time his contract is up, or did he tell you that himself?

He didn't say it.

Do you think Rondo will re sign for a multi year rebuild turning 30 in the first year of his contract?

 We are having good natured conversations and banter, I'm not sure why "did he tell you that himself is necessary." We speculate on here all the time? Geez settle.

Well how do you know that Rondo is gone if Danny doesn't do anything?

That's pretty standard talk for that dude, just ignore him and hopefully he goes away.

"That dude" is a respected CB veteran who's probably accumulated more goodwill around here than the two of  you taken together.

Hate to take this line of discourse, but this is thread about Smart and Rondo, not about Tim.

Thats great hes been on this website a long time? Doesn't stop him from making ridiculous points and being pretty snarky to everyone he disagrees with.

[knuckleballer]

If we go into the season with the roster basically as it is now, it will be extremely frustrating because it will feel like we are in limbo, not tanking and not competing.  But that doesn't necessarily mean we will lose Rondo.  Our big play, or fireworks, could happen next offseason or even midseason.  Hopefully, Sully and Olynyk will improve which will make them more appealing to other teams.
I hope it doesn't happen that way, but it is beginning to look likely.

[BballTim]

Plan A: trade Rondo this summer.
Plan B: trade Rondo at the deadline.
Plan C: lose Rondo to FA for nothing.

  Lucky it's Danny doing the planning and not the posters.

Unless he makes a major splash this summer he doesn't have a choice on whether Rondo stays or goes. Rondo is gone unless he's competing for a cahmpionship.

  Can you point me to some quotes where Rondo says he's leaving if we're not competing for a championship by the time his contract is up, or did he tell you that himself?

He didn't say it.

Do you think Rondo will re sign for a multi year rebuild turning 30 in the first year of his contract?

 We are having good natured conversations and banter, I'm not sure why "did he tell you that himself is necessary." We speculate on here all the time? Geez settle.

Well how do you know that Rondo is gone if Danny doesn't do anything?

That's pretty standard talk for that dude, just ignore him and hopefully he goes away.

"That dude" is a respected CB veteran who's probably accumulated more goodwill around here than the two of  you taken together.

Hate to take this line of discourse, but this is thread about Smart and Rondo, not about Tim.

Thats great hes been on this website a long time? Doesn't stop him from making ridiculous points and being pretty snarky to everyone he disagrees with.

  To be fair, I'm fairly snarky with people who agree with me as well. It's not personal.

  As for my comment to ticket18, he wasn't saying "Rondo might leave" or "I think Rondo will leave". He was saying "Rondo will leave" and the only thing he really has to back that up is a bunch of quotes where Rondo pretty much says the opposite. I'm not sure why it's ridiculous to make the point that Rondo hasn't made any comments about leaving the team if certain conditions aren't met, unless you're bothered that it doesn't fit your personal agenda.

[BballTim]

If we go into the season with the roster basically as it is now, it will be extremely frustrating because it will feel like we are in limbo, not tanking and not competing.  But that doesn't necessarily mean we will lose Rondo.  Our big play, or fireworks, could happen next offseason or even midseason.  Hopefully, Sully and Olynyk will improve which will make them more appealing to other teams.
I hope it doesn't happen that way, but it is beginning to look likely.

  It's somewhat frustrating if we don't do anything major before next season, but I wouldn't want to see Danny make moves just for the sake of making moves because of that. I saw enough of that with Pitino to last me a while.

[BudweiserCeltic]

If we go into the season with the roster basically as it is now, it will be extremely frustrating because it will feel like we are in limbo, not tanking and not competing.  But that doesn't necessarily mean we will lose Rondo.  Our big play, or fireworks, could happen next offseason or even midseason.  Hopefully, Sully and Olynyk will improve which will make them more appealing to other teams.
I hope it doesn't happen that way, but it is beginning to look likely.

  It's somewhat frustrating if we don't do anything major before next season, but I wouldn't want to see Danny make moves just for the sake of making moves because of that. I saw enough of that with Pitino to last me a while.

This is where I'm at, and I always viewed the 2015 off season as the right moment to make the big spending.

If something falls on our lap, or something extremely creative comes up now, take it... but mindful of the value you give.

I think the rebuilding process is going nicely, and having many contributing and talented players on rookie deals will be extremely useful.

And we still have plenty of assets to make moves.

[Eja117]

Reason: both guys need the ball in their hands to be most effective.  You can ask smart to play off the ball but then you wont utilize his passing skills properly. His ability to grab a rebound and go end to end would go down the toilet. Unless smart gets to play point when rondo sits

Rondo to me will be a guy reluctant to share the ball. He is up for a new contract and the last thing he wants is to lower his stat totals. He wants to win but with him putting up near triple double numbers

I cant see this duo being able to work like the bledsoe and dragic combo.

Solution imo is to trade rondo and or green and get that legit center the team needs to move fwd/complete the rebuild

It will work for one whole year till Rondo leaves.

[Eja117]

We should probably give it a chance before completely dismissing the idea of it not working. 

I think they can co-exist.  I'm excited at the prospect of the two of them in the backcourt.

how do you think Rondo feels about this prospect because that's what matters here

[Eja117]

Plan A: trade Rondo this summer.
Plan B: trade Rondo at the deadline.
Plan C: lose Rondo to FA for nothing.

  Lucky it's Danny doing the planning and not the posters.

Unless he makes a major splash this summer he doesn't have a choice on whether Rondo stays or goes. Rondo is gone unless he's competing for a cahmpionship.

  Can you point me to some quotes where Rondo says he's leaving if we're not competing for a championship by the time his contract is up, or did he tell you that himself?

I can point out to you pics of him shaking K Love's hand. Maybe because he actually wants to play with good players. Somewhere. Somewhere else because we don't have any now.

[BballTim]

Plan A: trade Rondo this summer.
Plan B: trade Rondo at the deadline.
Plan C: lose Rondo to FA for nothing.

  Lucky it's Danny doing the planning and not the posters.

Unless he makes a major splash this summer he doesn't have a choice on whether Rondo stays or goes. Rondo is gone unless he's competing for a cahmpionship.

  Can you point me to some quotes where Rondo says he's leaving if we're not competing for a championship by the time his contract is up, or did he tell you that himself?

I can point out to you pics of him shaking K Love's hand. Maybe because he actually wants to play with good players. Somewhere. Somewhere else because we don't have any now.

  Sure, Rondo wants to play with good players. Who doesn't? I mean, I'd assume that every player in the league would want to win a title, that doesn't mean that every player in the league leaves their team to go to contenders at the first available chance.

[Eja117]

Plan A: trade Rondo this summer.
Plan B: trade Rondo at the deadline.
Plan C: lose Rondo to FA for nothing.

  Lucky it's Danny doing the planning and not the posters.

Unless he makes a major splash this summer he doesn't have a choice on whether Rondo stays or goes. Rondo is gone unless he's competing for a cahmpionship.

  Can you point me to some quotes where Rondo says he's leaving if we're not competing for a championship by the time his contract is up, or did he tell you that himself?

I can point out to you pics of him shaking K Love's hand. Maybe because he actually wants to play with good players. Somewhere. Somewhere else because we don't have any now.

  Sure, Rondo wants to play with good players. Who doesn't? I mean, I'd assume that every player in the league would want to win a title, that doesn't mean that every player in the league leaves their team to go to contenders at the first available chance.

I suppose it's possible that if we way overpay then maybe he'll stay. Maybe. But this idea that Rondo is going to be "loyal" or give us some sort of "home town discount" for no real reason other than that we're the Celtics isn't an idea I subscribe to. 

[Future Celtics Owner]

If we go into the season with the roster basically as it is now, it will be extremely frustrating because it will feel like we are in limbo, not tanking and not competing.  But that doesn't necessarily mean we will lose Rondo.  Our big play, or fireworks, could happen next offseason or even midseason.  Hopefully, Sully and Olynyk will improve which will make them more appealing to other teams.
I hope it doesn't happen that way, but it is beginning to look likely.

  It's somewhat frustrating if we don't do anything major before next season, but I wouldn't want to see Danny make moves just for the sake of making moves because of that. I saw enough of that with Pitino to last me a while.

I agree that we should not make a move for the sake of making a move. I really thought after selecting Smart that Rondo was gonna be shipped for the 8th and we select Vonleh. Now that he's on the kittens maybe we can offer jeff green or something they need...bc it would not make sense now to trade rondo to sac imo