The real cost of not tanking

[Ogaju]

is ending up with a player that is thought of less than a gimp project from Cameroun. Glad to see Hood made it out of the first round. Looks like a nice kid.

I cannot get the song 'where is the love' off my mind right now.

Where is the fireworks promised by the Cs.

This has been one disappointing season.

I hope we have learned our lesson, and TANK HARD next season.

[LooseCannon]

The real cost of not tanking: having to read people whining about how the Celtics should have tanked, didn't tank hard enough, and need to tank again.

[greg683x]

this post would be here no matter who we drafted.

thats why i dont get mad when I see ridiculous stuff like this anymore

[slamtheking]

The real cost of not tanking: having to read people whining about how the Celtics should have tanked, didn't tank hard enough, and need to tank again.

so, so right.  TP 

draft isn't over and the tank brigade is already whining.

[slamtheking]

is ending up with a player that is thought of less than a gimp project from Cameroun. Glad to see Hood made it out of the first round. Looks like a nice kid.

I cannot get the song 'where is the love' off my mind right now.

Where is the fireworks promised by the Cs.

This has been one disappointing season.

I hope we have learned our lesson, and TANK HARD next season.

just to point out the obvious -- tanking achieved nothing.  Cleveland -- not the team with the worst record nor a team with a record worse than us -- won the lottery.  this year was just more proof that the lottery is a crapshoot and pinning your hopes on winning it is foolhardy at best. 

Philly was the prime example of all out tank effort this year and they still only got the 3rd pick. 

I'd rather have the team play to win and just let the chips fall where they may.

[Sketch5]

is ending up with a player that is thought of less than a gimp project from Cameroun. Glad to see Hood made it out of the first round. Looks like a nice kid.

I cannot get the song 'where is the love' off my mind right now.

Where is the fireworks promised by the Cs.

This has been one disappointing season.

I hope we have learned our lesson, and TANK HARD next season.

just to point out the obvious -- tanking achieved nothing.  Cleveland -- not the team with the worst record nor a team with a record worse than us -- won the lottery.  this year was just more proof that the lottery is a crapshoot and pinning your hopes on winning it is foolhardy at best. 

Philly was the prime example of all out tank effort this year and they still only got the 3rd pick. 

I'd rather have the team play to win and just let the chips fall where they may.

Exactly. Looks at Philly's picsk too. I get Embiid. But Saric too? They wont have Embiid for almost half the season at best, Saric not for 2 years. Noel, who knows yet. And they gutted their roster and may only have MCW and some second rounders to show for their awesome tanking powers.

DA did fine. Played for the tank, but didn't give the farm to get really bad. He can still make moves starting next week to make the team better.

[SparzWizard]

Let's blame Phil Pressey for trying so hard on the last few meaningless games of the season.

[Future Celtics Owner]

is ending up with a player that is thought of less than a gimp project from Cameroun. Glad to see Hood made it out of the first round. Looks like a nice kid.

I cannot get the song 'where is the love' off my mind right now.

Where is the fireworks promised by the Cs.

This has been one disappointing season.

I hope we have learned our lesson, and TANK HARD next season.

just to point out the obvious -- tanking achieved nothing.  Cleveland -- not the team with the worst record nor a team with a record worse than us -- won the lottery.  this year was just more proof that the lottery is a crapshoot and pinning your hopes on winning it is foolhardy at best. 

Philly was the prime example of all out tank effort this year and they still only got the 3rd pick. 

I'd rather have the team play to win and just let the chips fall where they may.

Exactly. Looks at Philly's picsk too. I get Embiid. But Saric too? They wont have Embiid for almost half the season at best, Saric not for 2 years. Noel, who knows yet. And they gutted their roster and may only have MCW and some second rounders to show for their awesome tanking powers.

DA did fine. Played for the tank, but didn't give the farm to get really bad. He can still make moves starting next week to make the team better.

What they are doing and have done to tank is really not classy move. I really thought that the way the celts played hard almost every night and did not give away players at the deadline would have meant something in the back room on draft night....

[celticsfan8591]

is ending up with a player that is thought of less than a gimp project from Cameroun. Glad to see Hood made it out of the first round. Looks like a nice kid.

I cannot get the song 'where is the love' off my mind right now.

Where is the fireworks promised by the Cs.

This has been one disappointing season.

I hope we have learned our lesson, and TANK HARD next season.

just to point out the obvious -- tanking achieved nothing.  Cleveland -- not the team with the worst record nor a team with a record worse than us -- won the lottery.  this year was just more proof that the lottery is a crapshoot and pinning your hopes on winning it is foolhardy at best. 

Philly was the prime example of all out tank effort this year and they still only got the 3rd pick. 

I'd rather have the team play to win and just let the chips fall where they may.

Exactly. Looks at Philly's picsk too. I get Embiid. But Saric too? They wont have Embiid for almost half the season at best, Saric not for 2 years. Noel, who knows yet. And they gutted their roster and may only have MCW and some second rounders to show for their awesome tanking powers.

DA did fine. Played for the tank, but didn't give the farm to get really bad. He can still make moves starting next week to make the team better.

What Philly is doing is smart.  Normally when you bottom out, only have a few high picks and then the guys you pick (if you have any idea what you're doing) become too good for you to add more blue chippers through the draft.  Philly now has the rights to four potential stars, with another high lottery pick coming next year.  They most likely won't all pan out, but by getting guys who can't play right away and get them out of the top few picks in the draft, they're ensuring that they get one of the best guys in the draft for several years in a row.  They could have a monster team in a few years if all of these guys they're taking pan out.

That said, I have no complaints about how the Celtics handled this draft.  Smart's a talented player and I love his aggressiveness.  Young has ton of upside as a scorer too. I would have preferred Gary Harris (he and Smart would be a killer defensive backcourt), but Young could be a really good player.

[greg683x]

is ending up with a player that is thought of less than a gimp project from Cameroun. Glad to see Hood made it out of the first round. Looks like a nice kid.

I cannot get the song 'where is the love' off my mind right now.

Where is the fireworks promised by the Cs.

This has been one disappointing season.

I hope we have learned our lesson, and TANK HARD next season.

just to point out the obvious -- tanking achieved nothing.  Cleveland -- not the team with the worst record nor a team with a record worse than us -- won the lottery.  this year was just more proof that the lottery is a crapshoot and pinning your hopes on winning it is foolhardy at best. 

Philly was the prime example of all out tank effort this year and they still only got the 3rd pick. 

I'd rather have the team play to win and just let the chips fall where they may.

Exactly. Looks at Philly's picsk too. I get Embiid. But Saric too? They wont have Embiid for almost half the season at best, Saric not for 2 years. Noel, who knows yet. And they gutted their roster and may only have MCW and some second rounders to show for their awesome tanking powers.

DA did fine. Played for the tank, but didn't give the farm to get really bad. He can still make moves starting next week to make the team better.

What Philly is doing is smart.  Normally when you bottom out, only have a few high picks and then the guys you pick (if you have any idea what you're doing) become too good for you to add more blue chippers through the draft.  Philly now has the rights to four potential stars, with another high lottery pick coming next year.  They most likely won't all pan out, but by getting guys who can't play right away and get them out of the top few picks in the draft, they're ensuring that they get one of the best guys in the draft for several years in a row.  They could have a monster team in a few years if all of these guys they're taking pan out.

That said, I have no complaints about how the Celtics handled this draft.  Smart's a talented player and I love his aggressiveness.  Young has ton of upside as a scorer too. I would have preferred Gary Harris (he and Smart would be a killer defensive backcourt), but Young could be a really good player.

you know, when those players they pick become too good and get them out of the lottery, they could always sign free agents to solidify the roster, instead of continuing to suck.  its not like theyre in a horrible market like Milwaukee or Memphis.  It's Philadelphia, free agents will come there if they can start to develop a winner.

[Nef-Oracle]

So you're telling me we should've tanked better?

[chambers]

is ending up with a player that is thought of less than a gimp project from Cameroun. Glad to see Hood made it out of the first round. Looks like a nice kid.

I cannot get the song 'where is the love' off my mind right now.

Where is the fireworks promised by the Cs.

This has been one disappointing season.

I hope we have learned our lesson, and TANK HARD next season.

just to point out the obvious -- tanking achieved nothing.  Cleveland -- not the team with the worst record nor a team with a record worse than us -- won the lottery.  this year was just more proof that the lottery is a crapshoot and pinning your hopes on winning it is foolhardy at best. 

Philly was the prime example of all out tank effort this year and they still only got the 3rd pick. 

I'd rather have the team play to win and just let the chips fall where they may.

Tanking just got the Bucks Jabari Parker, it got the 76ers Joel Embid.

More importantly, it got us Marcus Smart and James Young.
Two very solid pieces for the future of this organization.
It may even get us Kevin Love, or another star player down the line with some of those pieces.

The Cavs had 1.7% chance of getting the number 1 pick. They literally won the lottery.
It wasn't their plan, but someone usually gets very lucky in the draft. The rest of the lottery order went pretty much as planned.

[LilRip]

The tanking got us Smart and Young, which is a pretty good haul IMO. I'm excited to see them in action, particularly Smart.

You know what NOT tanking gets you? Capped out with a disgruntled all star and a cast of role players good enough to win but not good enough to make the playoffs. Im not talking about us. See: Minnesota.

[pokeKingCurtis]

The tanking got us Smart and Young, which is a pretty good haul IMO. I'm excited to see them in action, particularly Smart.

You know what NOT tanking gets you? Capped out with a disgruntled all star and a cast of role players good enough to win but not good enough to make the playoffs. Im not talking about us. See: Minnesota.

Drafting back to back point guards in high lottery, and getting it wrong on both counts/being unable to develop them, tends to do that.

[slamtheking]

The tanking got us Smart and Young, which is a pretty good haul IMO. I'm excited to see them in action, particularly Smart.

You know what NOT tanking gets you? Capped out with a disgruntled all star and a cast of role players good enough to win but not good enough to make the playoffs. Im not talking about us. See: Minnesota.

just being a bad team got us Smart and Young -- 2 players that look like they'll be solid NBA players for years.  What Philly did was what I call tanking and seems to be what the OP is saying the C's should have done.  That's my bone of contention -- gutting their team of almost all talent didn't get them the top pick and in the end, they didn't need the top pick to get arguably the top player in the draft.