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Re: 2014 NBA Mock Draft on NBATV 9pm Tonight
« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2014, 10:57:43 PM »

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I hope the mock goes like that 1-5.

Re: 2014 NBA Mock Draft on NBATV 9pm Tonight
« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2014, 11:03:57 PM »

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Julius randle pffft i might smash my tv if that happens tomorrow

Good luck, with those T-Rex arms of yours  :D

LOL tp.

Seriously though my wingspan is probably proportionally better than Randle's arm span. I'm 6'2 but I have long arms. Ruled the 4 square courts in middle school with that reach.

Re: 2014 NBA Mock Draft on NBATV 9pm Tonight
« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2014, 11:10:25 PM »

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I could SEE Exum going over wiggins...but I doubt it'll happen. Exum could be an elite player, wiggins could bust...I just dont know enough about Exum to tell you one way or another whether he is better than wiggins.

Re: 2014 NBA Mock Draft on NBATV 9pm Tonight
« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2014, 11:16:41 PM »

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Exum at 2? What

Chad ford was comparing him to Kobe when he was coming out of high school. Not as big a difference between penny and Kobe as prospects. Exum is typically compared to penny.

That's why those top three DKC picks are so valuable  ;)

What is DKC?

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Re: 2014 NBA Mock Draft on NBATV 9pm Tonight
« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2014, 11:39:19 PM »

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Full mock draft.

1. CLE - Jabari Parker
2. MIL - Dante Exum
3. PHI - Andrew Wiggins
4. ORL - Noah Vonleh
5. UTAH - Nik Stauskas
6. BOS - Julius Randle
7. LAL - Joel Embiid
8. SAC - Doug McDermott
9. CHA - Gary Harris
10. PHI - Aaron Gordon
11. DEN - Dario Saric
12. ORL - Marcus Smart
13. MIN - Adrien Payne
14. PHX - Jusuf Nurkic
15. ATL - Rodney Hood
16. CHI - James Young
17. BOS - Shabazz Napier
18. PHX - TJ Warren
19. CHI - Zach LaVine
20. TOR - Elfrid Payton
21. OKC -  Kyle Anderson
22. MEM - Tyler Ennis
23. UTAH - Walter Tavares
24. CHA - KJ McDaniels
25. HOU - PJ Hairston
26. MIA - Mitch McGary
27. PHX - Vasilijie? Micic
28. LAC - Clint Capela
29. OKC - Jerami Grant
30. SA - Glenn Robinson III
PHX Suns: Russell Westbrook, Chris Bosh, Tristan Thompson, Trevor Ariza, Tony Allen, Trey Lyles, Corey Brewer, Larry Nance Jr., Trey Burke, Troy Daniels, Joffrey Lauvergne, Justin Holiday, Mike Muscala, 14.6

Re: 2014 NBA Mock Draft on NBATV 9pm Tonight
« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2014, 11:43:26 PM »

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Aldridge has Napier going to us at 17. This is the ultimate doomsday scenario for me. Passing on Embiid for Randle and then going Napier when there are much better prospects on the boards is nuts.

Naw, Napier would be a great leader for a Rondo-less team, and he'll probably be a Stephen Curry-lite high quality starter. He's small but he's feisty, and he can put the ball in the basket about as well as anybody.

Re: 2014 NBA Mock Draft on NBATV 9pm Tonight
« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2014, 11:45:36 PM »

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Embiid was injured enough to slide past us but not LAL?

Zero probability and credability.

Re: 2014 NBA Mock Draft on NBATV 9pm Tonight
« Reply #37 on: June 26, 2014, 12:39:21 AM »

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Oh and in response to the OP...worst possible result for me would be taking Aaron Gordon at #6 and Saric at #17. 

I know that this answer will probably shock a lot of people, but I have my reasoning.  As much as people in today's NBA love athletic guys dunking all over everybody and wowing the crowds, I'm much more about substance than style.  I'm absolutely convinced that Gordon (with is lack of jump shot, worse-than-Shaq FT shooting, skinny build and average height) make him an absolutely terrible fit on a Celtics team who's biggest needs are:

* Scoring - preferably a go to scorer, but a shooter at the very least
* Rim protection
* A good combo guard - becuase neither Rondo nor Bradley is guaranteed to be around two years from now

Gordon seems to me like the only guy who is projected to go lottery that cannot help in any of those areas.

* Wiggins: Capable scorer with the ability to create his own offense and potential to develop in to a go to scorer
* Parker: Exceptional offensive player who could scorer who could be a go to scorer from day one
* Embiid: Elite rim protector with potential to become an exceptional offensive center
* Vonleh: Can stretch the floor, can score in the post, has Has the tools to be a capable rim protector
* Smart: Capable scorer with the ability to create his own offense and potential to develop in to a go to scorer
* Randle: Potential to be a Zach Randolf type threat in the low post
* Exum: Capable scorer with the ability to create his own offense and potential to develop in to a go to scorer
* McDermott: At worst offers the skills of an elite shooter, at best could be a very capable scorer at the NBA level

Every one of those guys at least does something to fill a void...Gordon doesn't.  His selling point is that he's an outstanding athlete and a lock-down defender who loves to run in transition - Jeff Green already gives us this.  Why waste a pick on a guy with a completely redundant skill set?

Sure it wouldn't hurt getting a backup SF to replace Wallace (who may or may not be healthy again next season, and is kinda useless even if he is healthy) but is it really worth wasting a #6 pick in a stacked draft on a backup SF?  We could fill that hole with our #17 pick.  Better yet, we could probably fill that need using a second round pick on a non-guaranteed contract or a or cheap vet-min free agent signing.

As for Saric, I like his skill set and wouldn't mind picking him up in the draft if we can get him with #17...but only if we are picking up a nice player at #6 who will immediately help to fill a void.  If we use #6 to pick a redundant player like Gordon, then use #17 to pick Saric (who we won't see in Green for until 2016) then we coming out of one of the promising drafts in years with...pretty much nothing.

So that, to me, is the worst possible scenario.   

Re: 2014 NBA Mock Draft on NBATV 9pm Tonight
« Reply #38 on: June 26, 2014, 12:44:27 AM »

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Full mock draft.

1. CLE - Jabari Parker
2. MIL - Dante Exum
3. PHI - Andrew Wiggins
4. ORL - Noah Vonleh
5. UTAH - Nik Stauskas
6. BOS - Julius Randle
7. LAL - Joel Embiid
8. SAC - Doug McDermott
9. CHA - Gary Harris
10. PHI - Aaron Gordon
11. DEN - Dario Saric
12. ORL - Marcus Smart
13. MIN - Adrien Payne
14. PHX - Jusuf Nurkic
15. ATL - Rodney Hood
16. CHI - James Young
17. BOS - Shabazz Napier
18. PHX - TJ Warren
19. CHI - Zach LaVine
20. TOR - Elfrid Payton
21. OKC -  Kyle Anderson
22. MEM - Tyler Ennis
23. UTAH - Walter Tavares
24. CHA - KJ McDaniels
25. HOU - PJ Hairston
26. MIA - Mitch McGary
27. PHX - Vasilijie? Micic
28. LAC - Clint Capela
29. OKC - Jerami Grant
30. SA - Glenn Robinson III

lol Smart at 12? Unlikely.

Re: 2014 NBA Mock Draft on NBATV 9pm Tonight
« Reply #39 on: June 26, 2014, 12:45:51 AM »

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Embiid was injured enough to slide past us but not LAL?

Zero probability and credability.

No, I can see that happening, in addition to watching Embiid become the best big man in the game and the cornerstone of another Lakers dynasty.  Ugh.

Re: 2014 NBA Mock Draft on NBATV 9pm Tonight
« Reply #40 on: June 26, 2014, 12:50:47 AM »

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Aldridge has Napier going to us at 17. This is the ultimate doomsday scenario for me. Passing on Embiid for Randle and then going Napier when there are much better prospects on the boards is nuts.

Naw, Napier would be a great leader for a Rondo-less team, and he'll probably be a Stephen Curry-lite high quality starter. He's small but he's feisty, and he can put the ball in the basket about as well as anybody.

Miami is looking to get Napier, somehow, in a move to further entice Lebron to stay, so he won't be a Celtic, imo.  How and where would he fit on this team, anyway?  He's certainly not a play maker or facilitator for the other guys out there, but he can create his own shot.  He might turn into a Mario Chalmers-type with a handle.  You never know.

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« Reply #41 on: June 26, 2014, 12:51:09 AM »

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Embiid was injured enough to slide past us but not LAL?

Zero probability and credability.

No, I can see that happening, in addition to watching Embiid become the best big man in the game and the cornerstone of another Lakers dynasty.  Ugh.

Danny is a risk taker, he'll take Embiid if he falls.

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« Reply #42 on: June 26, 2014, 12:53:04 AM »

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Oh and in response to the OP...worst possible result for me would be taking Aaron Gordon at #6 and Saric at #17. 

I know that this answer will probably shock a lot of people, but I have my reasoning.  As much as people in today's NBA love athletic guys dunking all over everybody and wowing the crowds, I'm much more about substance than style.  I'm absolutely convinced that Gordon (with is lack of jump shot, worse-than-Shaq FT shooting, skinny build and average height) make him an absolutely terrible fit on a Celtics team who's biggest needs are:

* Scoring - preferably a go to scorer, but a shooter at the very least
* Rim protection
* A good combo guard - becuase neither Rondo nor Bradley is guaranteed to be around two years from now

Gordon seems to me like the only guy who is projected to go lottery that cannot help in any of those areas.

* Wiggins: Capable scorer with the ability to create his own offense and potential to develop in to a go to scorer
* Parker: Exceptional offensive player who could scorer who could be a go to scorer from day one
* Embiid: Elite rim protector with potential to become an exceptional offensive center
* Vonleh: Can stretch the floor, can score in the post, has Has the tools to be a capable rim protector
* Smart: Capable scorer with the ability to create his own offense and potential to develop in to a go to scorer
* Randle: Potential to be a Zach Randolf type threat in the low post
* Exum: Capable scorer with the ability to create his own offense and potential to develop in to a go to scorer
* McDermott: At worst offers the skills of an elite shooter, at best could be a very capable scorer at the NBA level

Every one of those guys at least does something to fill a void...Gordon doesn't.  His selling point is that he's an outstanding athlete and a lock-down defender who loves to run in transition - Jeff Green already gives us this.  Why waste a pick on a guy with a completely redundant skill set?

Sure it wouldn't hurt getting a backup SF to replace Wallace (who may or may not be healthy again next season, and is kinda useless even if he is healthy) but is it really worth wasting a #6 pick in a stacked draft on a backup SF?  We could fill that hole with our #17 pick.  Better yet, we could probably fill that need using a second round pick on a non-guaranteed contract or a or cheap vet-min free agent signing.

As for Saric, I like his skill set and wouldn't mind picking him up in the draft if we can get him with #17...but only if we are picking up a nice player at #6 who will immediately help to fill a void.  If we use #6 to pick a redundant player like Gordon, then use #17 to pick Saric (who we won't see in Green for until 2016) then we coming out of one of the promising drafts in years with...pretty much nothing.

So that, to me, is the worst possible scenario.   

You simply don't know enough about Gordon. He's not just a dumb athlete type. He's way more substance than style, and he's two years younger than Smart.

Green is a good man defender, but he's often confused in team defense situations. He also rebounds like a point guard, and Gordon is also a significantly better passer, and a better ball handler as well.

And that's all on tope of Gordon's superior and more versatile defense, and more aggressive/high energy personality in general.

The only thing Green does better is shoot long jumpers, and free throws. And Gordon is 10 years younger and will only get better as a scorer.

In the NBA he'll get plenty of easy buckets in transition, putting back offensive rebounds, cutting smartly, and increasingly, scoring in a wide variety of other ways. He can already get his shot off in any situation because of his athleticism and IQ. It's just a matter of time before gets 3 or 4 unstoppable go=to moves down.


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« Reply #43 on: June 26, 2014, 12:56:06 AM »

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Oh and in response to the OP...worst possible result for me would be taking Aaron Gordon at #6 and Saric at #17.

I don't know anything about Saric, but PLEASE GOD, NO AARON GORDON!  We need a player with skills, not an energy/effort guy.  Not at #6.  Unless, of course, you know that he'll turn into Ben Wallace, but still, not at 6.  Hey, he's already got the free throw comparison down ::)

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« Reply #44 on: June 26, 2014, 12:58:01 AM »

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Embiid was injured enough to slide past us but not LAL?

Zero probability and credability.

No, I can see that happening, in addition to watching Embiid become the best big man in the game and the cornerstone of another Lakers dynasty.  Ugh.

Danny is a risk taker, he'll take Embiid if he falls.

I hope you're right.