Is Avery Bradley really that good?

[CelticsFanFromNYC]

As a Celtics fan. I was really unimpressed with what Bradley had to offer  this season. Without KG, Pierce, or Ray Ray. He seemed extremely troubled.

A. Could not run or help run the offense what so ever
B. Missing 3 pointers any cheap 3 point specialist would be knocking down

Please correct me if I'm wrong but is his defense worth anything over 4 mill? I know he was put in a position to be the 2nd option which he is clearly not but I just feel he should've thrived a whole lot more then he did from the expectations given when he replaced Shuttlesworth in the starting lineup. imo, backing up Bayless wouldve got  C's more wins.

[MBunge]

Aaron Afflalo is someone some are high on around here.  He didn't start getting significant minutes 'til he was 24 with Denver.  He put up 8.8 pts, 3.1 rebs, 1.7 assists on .465% shooting in 27.1 minutes.

Avery was 23 this past season.  He averaged 14.9 pts, 3.8 rebs, 1.4 assists on .438% shooting in 31 minutes.

Besides his shooting, Avery looks like he's developing into a guy who's going to be AT LEAST at that sub-All Star level who everybody would like to have in his prime.  And the shooting issue seems largely to be about his problem finishing at the rim, not firing from distance.

Mike

[manl_lui]

As a Celtics fan. I was really unimpressed with what Bradley had to offer  this season. Without KG, Pierce, or Ray Ray. He seemed extremely troubled.

A. Could not run or help run the offense what so ever
B. Missing 3 pointers any cheap 3 point specialist would be knocking down

Please correct me if I'm wrong but is his defense worth anything over 4 mill? I know he was put in a position to be the 2nd option which he is clearly not but I just feel he should've thrived a whole lot more then he did from the expectations given when he replaced Shuttlesworth in the starting lineup. imo, backing up Bayless wouldve got  C's more wins.

I was unimpressed not because of what he was doing on offense, it's because he toned down his defense dramatically to focus on offense. And that was expected, KG/PP/Ray and even Rondo gave Bradley a chance to just do his one sole job - defending and occasionally providing offense as a 5th option or even 6th option. Making him the 2nd go-to-guy or even 3rd go-to-guy is a giant jump in which he was trying way too hard for. As to how much he is worth, I still think he is worth about 5-6 mil. 

[Clench123]

...and he's fairly injury prone

[CelticsFanFromNYC]

As a Celtics fan. I was really unimpressed with what Bradley had to offer  this season. Without KG, Pierce, or Ray Ray. He seemed extremely troubled.

A. Could not run or help run the offense what so ever
B. Missing 3 pointers any cheap 3 point specialist would be knocking down

Please correct me if I'm wrong but is his defense worth anything over 4 mill? I know he was put in a position to be the 2nd option which he is clearly not but I just feel he should've thrived a whole lot more then he did from the expectations given when he replaced Shuttlesworth in the starting lineup. imo, backing up Bayless wouldve got  C's more wins.

I was unimpressed not because of what he was doing on offense, it's because he toned down his defense dramatically to focus on offense. And that was expected, KG/PP/Ray and even Rondo gave Bradley a chance to just do his one sole job - defending and occasionally providing offense as a 5th option or even 6th option. Making him the 2nd go-to-guy or even 3rd go-to-guy is a giant jump in which he was trying way too hard for. As to how much he is worth, I still think he is worth about 5-6 mil.

I just felt on a team that had no Rondo for awhile and only Jeff Green as a scoring option, He shouldve been  on a level Similar to Evan Tuners stats, except without the rebound numbers.

[knuckleballer]

He will look better surrounded by better players and he's already improved dramatically.  He didnt even look like he belonged in the NBA during his rookie season. 

[LooseCannon]

I just felt on a team that had no Rondo for awhile and only Jeff Green as a scoring option, He shouldve been  on a level Similar to Evan Tuners stats, except without the rebound numbers.

In 2013-2014:

Evan Turner 14.0 points and 30.3 minutes per game, with a 42.5 FG% and a 32.1 3P%
Avery Bradley 14.9 points and 30.9 minutes per game, with a 43.8 FG% and a 39.5 3P%

I'd be willing to give more money to Bradley than to Turner.

[jambr380]

I know that Afflalo gets brought up as a possible replacement for Avery, but if we are giving up anything more than Avery to acquire him, then I don't really see the draw.

It seems to me that Avery was once overrated, but then was slammed because of his deficiencies and is now underrated. If people think Afflalo is the next big thing in Boston, then I think they will be disappointed. Avery isn't perfect, but he is worth hanging onto - at least until we acquire a solid all-star.

[NorthernLightning]

One thing he's starting to get really good at is creating his own shot. He's not yet scoring at the rim very well, but he can create his own jump shot and hit them with pretty good consistency. It's good to have guys that can score in isolation, and he's only going to get better at it, and he'll get better at scoring at the rim.

[wiley]

nobody on the Celtics looked that good this year.  AB is  a good player who can do a lot of good
things for a contender, off the bench or starting with some stars...

His defensive prowess will mostly show itself in pressure games of the future, especially against opposing PG in select circumstances (or regularly if paired with a big PG)  There were no such games this year.

He's a good shooter and team player who doesn't stand around with the ball.  I'm sure San Antonio would like a guy like Avery Bradley.

[KGs Knee]

I just felt on a team that had no Rondo for awhile and only Jeff Green as a scoring option, He shouldve been  on a level Similar to Evan Tuners stats, except without the rebound numbers.

In 2013-2014:

Evan Turner 14.0 points and 30.3 minutes per game, with a 42.5 FG% and a 32.1 3P%
Avery Bradley 14.9 points and 30.9 minutes per game, with a 43.8 FG% and a 39.5 3P%

I'd be willing to give more money to Bradley than to Turner.

Yeah, Bradley's shooting percentages were fairly decent last year.   His 39.5% 3P is actually pretty [dang] good.  He's not an elite shooter by any stretch of the imagination, but if he maintains last years numbers, he's certainly above average.

[pearljammer10]

No. He's not.

[BudweiserCeltic]

My only problem with Bradley is the role they currently have him playing, having him looking for his shot. I rather see him moving the ball more and being more of a cutter and playing a bit like Ray Allen's role on offense.

But his elite defense and his contributions on offense, which is much better than most defensive specialists (particularly with the level of his defensive contributions) makes him a very good player to have.

More importantly, he'd be even more valuable on a team that has the required pieces to compete.

[D.o.s.]

...and he's fairly injury prone

That's the biggest red flag for me, and why I think he's probably most suited for a backup role harassing enemy point guards off the bench.

[CelticsFanFromNYC]

I just felt on a team that had no Rondo for awhile and only Jeff Green as a scoring option, He shouldve been  on a level Similar to Evan Tuners stats, except without the rebound numbers.

In 2013-2014:

Evan Turner 14.0 points and 30.3 minutes per game, with a 42.5 FG% and a 32.1 3P%
Avery Bradley 14.9 points and 30.9 minutes per game, with a 43.8 FG% and a 39.5 3P%

I'd be willing to give more money to Bradley than to Turner.

Point Taken lol. Only differential with Turner is he has decent assist numbers and wouldve had more if his teammates actually finished. Bradley really doesnt pass for play making purposes. I would personally take Turner on my team as a big 2 . Not on the C's though due to the fact there would be not main 3point threat on the floor