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Re: Klay Thompson's Dad says Love to GSW (rumor/offer)
« Reply #180 on: June 19, 2014, 04:04:47 PM »

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David Lee is owed $30+ million over the next two years.  Kevin Martin is owed about $21 million over the next three years.  Yeah, if I'm Minnesota, there's no way in hell I'm accepting that I need to include a first to dump Martin for no immediate financial relief when I'm also trading you Kevin Love.

Which is a moot point, anyway, since that first can't be traded.

The player can be, though. Don't act like you didn't know that.

Of course I know that.  But you don't leak stuff like that before the draft since that's illegal, unless you want the league investigating you like they did with Doc Rivers and the Clippers.
Its not illegal to discuss the trade, its illegal to have the trade call with the league and make it official.

Everything is above board here, you can agree to and leak an agreement in principal all you want.

I am willing to bet it's illegal to blatantly circumvent a league rule that prevents you from trading away future draft picks by offering to make a pick for a team and then trading said pick away.  By all means, if you have previous examples of this, show them to me.
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Re: Klay Thompson's Dad says Love to GSW (rumor/offer)
« Reply #181 on: June 19, 2014, 04:12:47 PM »

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I think Klay is super overrated... Dude isn't efficient and he's probably not improving much beyond what he's doing right now.

It would be a good move for GSW.

Re: Klay Thompson's Dad says Love to GSW (rumor/offer)
« Reply #182 on: June 19, 2014, 04:15:48 PM »

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If this goes down I think GS would be smart to go after Okafor.  A center group of Bogut, Okafor and Jermaine ONeil will give them depth needed

Re: Klay Thompson's Dad says Love to GSW (rumor/offer)
« Reply #183 on: June 19, 2014, 04:16:12 PM »

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Good for Golden State.  HOnestly at this point, the best course of action for Boston appears to be...

#1 - Hope that Embiid is out for a season... trade up to secure his services.  Most teams will not want to go the Philly/Noel route, but Boston can.

#2 - Trade Rondo for additional young assets.

#3 - Hang onto the rest of the youth... tank again and see what we have next Summer.

Re: Klay Thompson's Dad says Love to GSW (rumor/offer)
« Reply #184 on: June 19, 2014, 04:19:00 PM »

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Good for Golden State.  HOnestly at this point, the best course of action for Boston appears to be...

#1 - Hope that Embiid is out for a season... trade up to secure his services.  Most teams will not want to go the Philly/Noel route, but Boston can.

#2 - Trade Rondo for additional young assets.

#3 - Hang onto the rest of the youth... tank again and see what we have next Summer.

Tanking again, great
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Re: Klay Thompson's Dad says Love to GSW (rumor/offer)
« Reply #185 on: June 19, 2014, 04:19:00 PM »

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If this goes down I think GS would be smart to go after Okafor.  A center group of Bogut, Okafor and Jermaine ONeil will give them depth needed


They still have Festus Ezeli, and he's healthy.

He had a good showing before he got hurt, no need to pay another Center.
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Re: Klay Thompson's Dad says Love to GSW (rumor/offer)
« Reply #186 on: June 19, 2014, 04:21:17 PM »

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David Lee is owed $30+ million over the next two years.  Kevin Martin is owed about $21 million over the next three years.  Yeah, if I'm Minnesota, there's no way in hell I'm accepting that I need to include a first to dump Martin for no immediate financial relief when I'm also trading you Kevin Love.

Which is a moot point, anyway, since that first can't be traded.

The player can be, though. Don't act like you didn't know that.

Of course I know that.  But you don't leak stuff like that before the draft since that's illegal, unless you want the league investigating you like they did with Doc Rivers and the Clippers.
Its not illegal to discuss the trade, its illegal to have the trade call with the league and make it official.

Everything is above board here, you can agree to and leak an agreement in principal all you want.

I am willing to bet it's illegal to blatantly circumvent a league rule that prevents you from trading away future draft picks by offering to make a pick for a team and then trading said pick away.  By all means, if you have previous examples of this, show them to me.

Are you joking? That's the whole point of  the 'agreed in principle' clause that's attached to these reports. It's perfectly legal to trade players after you've drafted them.

But, since you're unwilling to do even some cursory legwork (the rule is explicitly about trading "future" first round picks in consecutive years, which you would know if you'd looked it up rather than saying "NO!"), the Lakers are a great example:

2008 - Pick traded to Memphis as part of Gasol trade.
2009 - Pick traded to Knicks for cash and a future second rounder
2010 - Pick traded to Memphis as part of Gasol trade
2011 - Pick traded to Brooklyn as part of Vujacic trade
2012 - Pick traded to Cleveland as part of Sessions trade
2013 - Pick traded to Phoenix as part of Nash trade

Firstly, I'm quite aware of what the Stepien Rule is, so don't assume I'm ignorant on that front, thanks.  Secondly, if you actually bothered to look at Minnesota's draft pick status, you'd know that due to protections on the pick they owe to Phoenix, the year it will be conveyed is variable, therefore they cannot trade any future first round draft picks period until they transfer that pick to Phoenix.  The Stepien Rule has nothing to do with this at all.  But good effort.

Finally: cool, a list of the Lakers trading draft picks in draft day deals.  I'm not sure what that has to do with anything I'm talking about, though.  Unless you're telling me there were reports coming out days in advance of the draft about how the Lakers, knowing they couldn't trade away their first rounder in said draft, were going to pick a player for a specific team and then went on to do just that.

@Fafnir: I'm aware of what happens on draft day. Draft day deals are different because you are no longer dealing with a future draft.  I'm talking about a team openly leaking reports in advance of the draft talking about how they're going to circumvent a rule preventing them from trading future draft picks.

Re: Klay Thompson's Dad says Love to GSW (rumor/offer)
« Reply #187 on: June 19, 2014, 04:21:23 PM »

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Does this trade make Minny better than Phoenix?

Re: Klay Thompson's Dad says Love to GSW (rumor/offer)
« Reply #188 on: June 19, 2014, 04:23:23 PM »

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Re: Klay Thompson's Dad says Love to GSW (rumor/offer)
« Reply #189 on: June 19, 2014, 04:23:23 PM »

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If in minny I'm not doing this deal unless Barnes klay and lee are all coming my way. I'm also not sending out a lotto pick.

Love and Martin
For lee Thompson and Barnes

That seems to make sense for both teams.


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Re: Klay Thompson's Dad says Love to GSW (rumor/offer)
« Reply #190 on: June 19, 2014, 04:24:24 PM »

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cmon now u crazy if u taking this trade serious

its like saying you would give up #6,#17, and sully for david lee and klay thompson Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.

unless danny hasnt even offered minny the #6 pick and we really havnt herd the celts and wolves have been in serious talks yet.



Re: Klay Thompson's Dad says Love to GSW (rumor/offer)
« Reply #191 on: June 19, 2014, 04:26:13 PM »

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Wait.

They're giving up the best player in the deal AND a lottery pick.

 ???

Do you think love is worth thompson and lee alone??

Lee is a pretty good pf.

I can't even take you seriously anymore. Are you really this biased against Love?  You're irrational hatred for him is either terribly misinformed or one of the more impressive pieces of performance art of I've ever seen

then don't.  I know your sad about this but it will turn out for the best.

I wonder if Rondo is on his way out next

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« Reply #192 on: June 19, 2014, 04:26:50 PM »

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If this goes down I think GS would be smart to go after Okafor.  A center group of Bogut, Okafor and Jermaine ONeil will give them depth needed


They still have Festus Ezeli, and he's healthy.

He had a good showing before he got hurt, no need to pay another Center.
i'm thinking they are going all in to really compete for championship, guy like okafor can give you quality at both c and pf spots, bogut you have to assume will be hurt sometime during year

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« Reply #193 on: June 19, 2014, 04:27:02 PM »

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Wait.

They're giving up the best player in the deal AND a lottery pick.

 ???

Do you think love is worth thompson and lee alone??

Lee is a pretty good pf.

I can't even take you seriously anymore. Are you really this biased against Love?  You're irrational hatred for him is either terribly misinformed or one of the more impressive pieces of performance art of I've ever seen

then don't.  I know your sad about this but it will turn out for the best.

I wonder if Rondo is on his way out next

Aaron Gordon era begins?

Depressing thinking about it.
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Re: Klay Thompson's Dad says Love to GSW (rumor/offer)
« Reply #194 on: June 19, 2014, 04:29:41 PM »

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@Fafnir: I'm aware of what happens on draft day. Draft day deals are different because you are no longer dealing with a future draft.  I'm talking about a team openly leaking reports in advance of the draft talking about how they're going to circumvent a rule preventing them from trading future draft picks.
Draft day deals are done prior to the day of the draft and leaked frequently.