Baxter Holmes: Celtics not in top-3 for Love

[Mazingerz]

when is the first day of the offseason that trades can occur? draft night?

im pretty sure they can occur now, and I think you can make trades once the season ends and your team and the team youre trading with is out of the playoffs and the players being traded dont have any options to exercise on their contract.

So since the Celts are clearly ahead of everyone else to get Love (per some sources and many fans here), why isn't the trade a done deal by now??

It's part of the game. Posturing/Bluffing to get more. I hope Danny won't fold.

[SHAQATTACK]

Only Chicago , with their proven coach , track record and Noah at center makes sense.  But they don't have squat to trade compared to Celtics.

If the Warriors let Klay go they would be in huge trouble and terrible mistake .  Lee and Barnes yes .

Steve Kerr is totally unproven at coaching anything.....that team has no record of success in what 50 years what have they done?. If Curry breaks ankle or Tweaks a toe ...they are in total trouble ...... That team is totally based on Curry shooting lights out every night......Ray Allen did the same , and could not do squat for a team to win a ring till he land on the Celtics.  I don't see Love wanting on that team ...nor do,I see him wanting on the Denver team......always a failure no matter who is coach or who is on the team.  Football city.

Love wants on a team like Lakers or Celtics .....he wants his number and name hanging with the great ones in basketball

[greg683x]

when is the first day of the offseason that trades can occur? draft night?

im pretty sure they can occur now, and I think you can make trades once the season ends and your team and the team youre trading with is out of the playoffs and the players being traded dont have any options to exercise on their contract.

So since the Celts are clearly ahead of everyone else to get Love (per some sources and many fans here), why isn't the trade a done deal by now??

Because Minnesota is going to wait until draft night to try and see what happens.


You can think of it like an Ebay auction -- Minnesota's hoping that there will be a last second bidding war (metaphorically speaking) and that some sucker is going to overpay.

It also benefits Danny to drag this out until draft day too, bc if someone like Embiid were to fall to #6, that could change everything.

Unless of course Danny has an offer on the table for Love he knows he needs to jump on right now.

[saltlover]

Only Chicago , with their proven coach , track record and Noah at center makes sense.  But they don't have squat to trade compared to Celtics.

If the Warriors let Klay go they would be in huge trouble and terrible mistake .  Lee and Barnes yes .

Steve Kerr is totally unproven at coaching anything.....that team has no record of success in what 50 years what have they done?. If Curry breaks ankle or Tweaks a toe ...they are in total trouble ...... That team is totally based on Curry shooting lights out every night......Ray Allen did the same , and could not do squat for a team to win a ring till he land on the Celtics.  I don't see Love wanting on that team ...nor do,I see him wanting on the Denver team......always a failure no matter who is coach or who is on the team.  Football city.

Love wants on a team like Lakers or Celtics .....he wants his number and name hanging with the great ones in basketball

This is simply not true.  Most would prefer Mrotic to Sullinger or Olynyk, and they have two firsts this year and a future pick from Sacramento. If Chicago wanted to pay the price, they could certainly get a deal done.  But with their power forward situation (Gibson and Mrotic) it makes more sense for them to use their picks to pursue Melo, unless the price comes down on Love.

[colincb]

Only Chicago , with their proven coach , track record and Noah at center makes sense.  But they don't have squat to trade compared to Celtics.

If the Warriors let Klay go they would be in huge trouble and terrible mistake .  Lee and Barnes yes .

Steve Kerr is totally unproven at coaching anything.....that team has no record of success in what 50 years what have they done?. If Curry breaks ankle or Tweaks a toe ...they are in total trouble ...... That team is totally based on Curry shooting lights out every night......Ray Allen did the same , and could not do squat for a team to win a ring till he land on the Celtics.  I don't see Love wanting on that team ...nor do,I see him wanting on the Denver team......always a failure no matter who is coach or who is on the team.  Football city.

Love wants on a team like Lakers or Celtics .....he wants his number and name hanging with the great ones in basketball

This is simply not true.  Most would prefer Mrotic to Sullinger or Olynyk, and they have two firsts this year and a future pick from Sacramento. If Chicago wanted to pay the price, they could certainly get a deal done.  But with their power forward situation (Gibson and Mrotic) it makes more sense for them to use their picks to pursue Melo, unless the price comes down on Love.

A bigger issue to CHI doing any deal with MINN is Mirotic coming over to play in MINN. Chicago has his rights, not his contract. Otherwise, the rest of this is true.  Melo makes more sense than Love for CHI.

[colincb]

when is the first day of the offseason that trades can occur? draft night?

im pretty sure they can occur now, and I think you can make trades once the season ends and your team and the team youre trading with is out of the playoffs and the players being traded dont have any options to exercise on their contract.

So since the Celts are clearly ahead of everyone else to get Love (per some sources and many fans here), why isn't the trade a done deal by now??

Why would you think Minnesota would agree to this trade before the draft?

[Tr1boy]

when is the first day of the offseason that trades can occur? draft night?

im pretty sure they can occur now, and I think you can make trades once the season ends and your team and the team youre trading with is out of the playoffs and the players being traded dont have any options to exercise on their contract.

So since the Celts are clearly ahead of everyone else to get Love (per some sources and many fans here), why isn't the trade a done deal by now??

Why would you think Minnesota would agree to this trade before the draft?

Bc to some fans here the deal is in the bag. He visited boston and shook hands with rondo after all.

[BigAlTheFuture]

Bc to some fans here the deal is in the bag. He visited boston and shook hands with rondo after all.

You are trying so hard to downplay that whole Boston visit...

[Tr1boy]

Bc to some fans here the deal is in the bag. He visited boston and shook hands with rondo after all.

You are trying so hard to downplay that whole Boston visit...

so why isn't a trade done??

you know why? bc there are potentially other better offers out there.  Imo we are not getting this guy.

[rondohondo]

Bc to some fans here the deal is in the bag. He visited boston and shook hands with rondo after all.

You are trying so hard to downplay that whole Boston visit...

so why isn't a trade done??

you know why? bc there are potentially other better offers out there.  Imo we are not getting this guy.

Because we can't trade all our picks in consecutive years, but if we wait until draft night we can draft a player and then send him away with picks from 2015. So it allows more flexibility for one reason .  Also Minny is going to drag this out as long as they can to get the best possible offer from all teams . To me the C's clearly can offer the best package out of the teams Love would re-sign with .

[Vermont Green]

I keep hearing deals that start with #6 plus #17.  The problem is that Minni already has #13 and 3 second round picks.  I don't think they want or need two more first round picks this years.  There is kind of an assumption that Minni is playing poker (and that is likely part of it) but I am starting to think that maybe they really do want more players and fewer picks.

We probably need to trade a pick and something for a young player, for example maybe Dion Waiters or Shumpert.

My guess is we'd get at least one 2nd rounder back, either to flip elsewhere or to pick up a late pick prospect.  Remember there was a story a couple days back saying we were looking at getting one.

It's also possible Minnesota themselves might flip one of our picks via handshake agreement with another team.  Lot of possibilities.

You are right of course that there are a lot of possibilities but one possibility is that Minni really does want players and not picks, even picks they can then try to re-trade for other players.

I don't doubt that Boston is right in the middle of this, I am just starting to doubt that picks and Sullinger is going to get it done.

[Afam]

when is the first day of the offseason that trades can occur? draft night?

im pretty sure they can occur now, and I think you can make trades once the season ends and your team and the team youre trading with is out of the playoffs and the players being traded dont have any options to exercise on their contract.

So since the Celts are clearly ahead of everyone else to get Love (per some sources and many fans here), why isn't the trade a done deal by now??

Why would you think Minnesota would agree to this trade before the draft?

 @ Triboy. No, it's because you don't want Kevin Love on the Celtics because he supposedly can't play defense. Let's stop sugar coating it and just say it like it is. You don't want Kevin Love on the Celtics. I have been reading your posts on the Kevin Love threads, and im sorry to say this but you can't be objective in this particular issue. You look for any reason imaginable  to bash Kevin Love and say why he shouldn't be a Celtic.
Bc to some fans here the deal is in the bag. He visited boston and shook hands with rondo after all.

[crownontherocks]

Sources: Warriors Trading David Lee, Harrison Barnes For Tyson Chandler 'Won't Happen'

However, this potential deal won't happen, according to sources.

The Warriors' only purpose in the potential trade would be shed the two years and nearly $30 million left on Lee's contract. Chandler has one year and less than $15 million remaining on his contract with the New York Knicks.

Realgm


I already wrote this but didn't see anyone answer, But my question is if there offering lee to other teams.  How serious can they be to try to go after love , and lets just say klay would go in. Would klay barnes green be enough


I just want to fast forward to next thur already

[nacceltic]

Sources: Warriors Trading David Lee, Harrison Barnes For Tyson Chandler 'Won't Happen'

However, this potential deal won't happen, according to sources.

The Warriors' only purpose in the potential trade would be shed the two years and nearly $30 million left on Lee's contract. Chandler has one year and less than $15 million remaining on his contract with the New York Knicks.

Realgm


I already wrote this but didn't see anyone answer, But my question is if there offering lee to other teams.  How serious can they be to try to go after love , and lets just say klay would go in. Would klay barnes green be enough


I just want to fast forward to next thur already

Apparently, Golden State is working on something bigger...this is the latest from Wojo, from America's Pregame Twitter Account:

 @AmericasPregame  ?  3h
?Love will probably be moved before the deadline, most likely @warriors, he would sign extension, Klay must be apart of that.? @WojYahooNBA

[Tr1boy]

Lee, barnes, Thompson for love hopefully