Would Ainge bring back Perk with the trade exception before letting it expire?

[saltlover]

It looks like something that would make sense for the Celtics and for the Thunder.

- The Celtics get a player that they're familiar with, fills a need and on an expiring contract.
- The Thunder acquire their own trade exemption and open up more financial flexibility.

What do you think of this possibility?

This was posted a week or so ago.  I think that there's no way Danny does this if he's not getting at least what he got for taking on Joel Anthony (two seconds or a late 1st).  That said, OKC has picks 21 and 29 this year, so they have a late 1st to spare.  I think he still has some use as a rotational center, but not enough for the Celtics to not get compensated for taking on his contract.

Relatedly, I think Hump would be a decent fit as a 4/5 rotation player in OKC, so perhaps this could be completed via sign-and-trade or via the TPE.

[Nef-Oracle]

Perk is done, even for a second rounders i won't take him. The tpe will be used for Monroe or Asik, not someone else.

[footey]

Perk's ship has sailed. Thx for the memories.

[indeedproceed]

Perk is as low risk as bringing Antoine back in 2005 was.

Eh, I think he's pretty much toast, which is different than 'Toine in 2005. Perkins has been a net negative on the floor for a while, and while I see your point about not letting the TPE expire, we could accomplish the same thing (gaining a potentially expiring contract) by signing Hump to a 3 yr non-guaranteed deal at the same price, probably at better production on the court, and let the TPE expire.

I think OKC could make it worth our while, but as others have alluded to, what's their angle? They'd potentially gain around $5 million in cap room, but they'd lose the MLE. I guess I could see the upside in that it would allow them to sign a ~$5 mil free agent for 4 years instead of 2, but I wonder who that player would be.

I could see how/why it might make sense in the right context, but...

[Jon]

And to pile on further, a significant part of the reason that Ainge traded him was because he thought Perk was on the decline, and that was several years ago.

So, I really don't see it happening now.

[saltlover]

Perk is as low risk as bringing Antoine back in 2005 was.

Eh, I think he's pretty much toast, which is different than 'Toine in 2005. Perkins has been a net negative on the floor for a while, and while I see your point about not letting the TPE expire, we could accomplish the same thing (gaining a potentially expiring contract) by signing Hump to a 3 yr non-guaranteed deal at the same price, probably at better production on the court, and let the TPE expire.

I think OKC could make it worth our while, but as others have alluded to, what's their angle? They'd potentially gain around $5 million in cap room, but they'd lose the MLE. I guess I could see the upside in that it would allow them to sign a ~$5 mil free agent for 4 years instead of 2, but I wonder who that player would be.

I could see how/why it might make sense in the right context, but...

OKC does it because they're not going to pay the luxury tax, and they're not going to amnesty.  Meet Jerry Reinsdorf South.  Perk is either largely or completely deadweight on that roster.  Sending out Perk frees them to acquire useful players with some combination of the MLE, BAE, $6 million trade exception from Kevin Martin, or maybe even a trade exception/S&T from Perk himself.  If they keep Perk, they're probably limited to the MLE or the Martin trade exception and minimum contracts.  They're not getting the BAE, and they certainly won't be able to use both a TPE and the MLE.

[Lucky17]

Perk is done, even for a second rounders i won't take him. The tpe will be used for Monroe or Asik, not someone else.

What if it isn't?

I would agree with the original premise of the OP: as a last option, I would hope that Ainge would use the TPE on Perk rather than let it expire. I would hope that OKC would include something else in the deal (draft picks, prospects) for taking Perk's contract off their hands.

Perk's contract could then be used later as salary filler in another deal. The TPE can't do that, especially after it evaporates in mid-July. Ainge would just be rolling it over, buying some time.

[SHAQATTACK]

It would be kinda cool in a way to have him back on the bench ,  even if he is about as sorry as Joel Anthony 

Having Perk.....

Might be an asset to Keeping Rondo happy 

[JSD]

Perk is done, even for a second rounders i won't take him. The tpe will be used for Monroe or Asik, not someone else.

What if it isn't?

I would agree with the original premise of the OP: as a last option, I would hope that Ainge would use the TPE on Perk rather than let it expire. I would hope that OKC would include something else in the deal (draft picks, prospects) for taking Perk's contract off their hands.

Perk's contract could then be used later as salary filler in another deal. The TPE can't do that, especially after it evaporates in mid-July. Ainge would just be rolling it over, buying some time.

Ding! ding! Someone gets it. TP

[Celtics4ever]

If Perk was horse they would shoot him, his game is shot.

I'd rather get Asik or ply for someone usefull at this point in their career than get him.  if Melo leaves make a run at Amare with it.  Throw in Wallace + TE so they can go into complete rebuild mode and we hace tons of cap space in a year.

[BASS_THUMPER]

Wouldn't mind seeing Perk back...the crowd in Boston would go crazy when he hit the court
plus I think he got a lil game left

[aporel#18]

Perk+ PJ3 or the 29th pick for the TPE and we have a deal.

Why for OKC? Well, they stop paying 9M to a player that's the shell of his former self. 2009 Perk was better than today's Asik, at least on offense (so you get how terribad is Asik, really). OKC is cheap, they'd love to save all that money. Giving up PJ3 or the 29th pick would be worth for them.

Why for BOS? Perk will be an asset at the trade deadline (Theo Ratliff 2.0), ,and PJ3 or the pick would be a nice piece to add to use in future trades. Celtics would overpay Perk until July or until February, but in a year, Perk could be adding some value. 

Being patient will be key for the Cs. Hopefully Danny is aiming at Marc Gasol / LaMarcus Aldridge in February 2015.

Go Celtics!

[saltlover]

Perk+ PJ3 or the 29th pick for the TPE and we have a deal.

As an FYI, Perk+PJ3 won't fit into the TPE, as the trade needs to be made in July, when their combined salary will be a little over $10.6 million.

[KGs Knee]

Perk is done, even for a second rounders i won't take him. The tpe will be used for Monroe or Asik, not someone else.

What if it isn't?

I would agree with the original premise of the OP: as a last option, I would hope that Ainge would use the TPE on Perk rather than let it expire. I would hope that OKC would include something else in the deal (draft picks, prospects) for taking Perk's contract off their hands.

Perk's contract could then be used later as salary filler in another deal. The TPE can't do that, especially after it evaporates in mid-July. Ainge would just be rolling it over, buying some time.

And it's not just about "taking the contract off their hands", it would likely also provide OKC with a TPE of their own, which they might very well be able to use to fill some of the holes in their roster.

[Celtics4ever]

they stop paying 9M to a player that's the shell of his former self. 2009 Perk was better than today's Asik, at least on offense (so you get how terribad is Asik, really).

I call BS.   Scoring wise Perk shot  .45% and had 3.1 PPG last year.  Asik shot .53% and had 5.8 PPG.  maybe in 2009 but it's not 2009 is it.   Perk is a worse player on offense than Asik now.

Offense is certainly part of C duties but so is rebounding.   Asik is a much better rebounder than Perk who has always been week in that regard.   Asik had a year where he averaged 11.7 RPG the 2012-2013 season.  In 20 mpg he averaged 7.1 RPG, Perk averaged 4.9 last year in just shy of 20 MPG.  Perk's best year was 8.1.  Perk was a better shot blocker and I give him the nod there even with today's Perk.   Perk played 19.5 MPG and Asik 19.4 last year.   

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/2018/kendrick-perkins

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/3414/omer-asik

I 'd would not mind to get the 29th and PJ3 but the only way it makes sense if we amnesty Perk.  He is beyond bad now.