Doug McDermott Comparison/Projection

[Galeto]

If he plays the 4 offensively, probably coming off the bench, I could see him playing a lot like Pierce did with Brooklyn this past season.  This entails popping off a lot of screens and taking threes and also driving off the catch.  I suppose this will also be his game as a 3 as well but wing defenders will be more effective guarding him than bigs out on the perimeter.  The concern is that he won't be able to hold up anywhere close to as well as Pierce did defensively because he doesn't have Pierce's long arms. 

McDermott might be able to make the Dirk post fadeaway a few times but I doubt it's going to be an unstoppable move for him.  Being able to make it against college defenders says nothing about his ability to make it against longer, bigger, more athletic and more defensively capable NBA defenders.  Dirk is a 7-footer with long arms and a very high release; it make sense he can get that shot off and with his great touch, make it.  McDermott doesn't enjoy the same physical gifts.  Whether as a 3 or a 4, every defender is going to be as tall or taller and certainly longer than him. To think that someone with his physical profile is going to routinely score against NBA defenders in the post when post scoring is one of the most difficult things to do in the NBA seems unlikely.

[D.o.s.]

Creighton didn't run their offense for him.

ok.

[Celtics4ever]

Creighton didn't run their offense for him.

Would like you like to buy some beachfront propety I have on the moon?  If you believe they did not run their offense for him you're pretty naive.


He was 3rd in the Nation at FG attempted.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/statistics/player/_/stat/field-goals/sort/fieldGoalsAttempted

He attempted 206 three point goals.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/51586/doug-mcdermott


He attempted 627 FG attempts.  the next guy on the team Wragge shot 242.   Sure looks like they ran offense for him.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/156/creighton-bluejays

I suppose the basketball fairy just happened to bless him a lot, perhaps?   Of course, they ran plays for him he CAN SHOOT.   That is just coachspeak from the dad and him saying the right thing that they didn't run plays for him and played as a team.   Sometimes the coaches son is the best player but they can't come out and say that folks.

[Galeto]

If not McDermott, who did Creighton run their offense for?  Whether any "plays" were run for him, McDermott clearly had the freedom to shoot as often and whenever he liked as well as to run anywhere on the court.  The latter in particular is going to be different.  He's just not going to have the freedom to roam wherever he wants because he's not going to be the no.1 option, his main role is going to be to space the floor and shoot, which roaming will counteract and because teammates are going to have to know where he's going to be.  This notion that he's going to run defenders ragged is just stupid.

[Fafnir]

Creighton's offense was a lot like the Orlando system SVG, in this case Doug was Dwight. They'd work him in the post often to establish position and then he'd either get the ball, or more often start cutting or flashing to get open jump shots after his man was pinned somewhat. That was their core set base.

They'd also run him around stagger screens ray allen style if teams had a bigger player guarding him, and he took a lot of transition 3s as the trailer.

That sort of offense won't work in the NBA since there are a lot more SF/PF types who can stick with him and also defend the post ups. (Think Jeff Green, LeBron, Pierce, etc)

[Galeto]

Creighton's offense was a lot like the Orlando system SVG, in this case Doug was Dwight. They'd work him in the post often to establish position and then he'd either get the ball, or more often start cutting or flashing to get open jump shots after his man was pinned somewhat. That was their core set base.

They'd also run him around stagger screens ray allen style if teams had a bigger player guarding him, and he took a lot of transition 3s as the trailer.

That sort of offense won't work in the NBA since there are a lot more SF/PF types who can stick with him and also defend the post ups. (Think Jeff Green, LeBron, Pierce, etc)

I don't think much of his post game is going to translate but trailer threes, pick and pops and shooting behind flash screens will.  I could see him being one of those role players who have true shooting percentages in the 60s.   I think he's going to really struggle defensively.  I don't understand people who think he's underrated defensively.  What are they basing that on?  He didn't expend any energy on defense and when he actually had to defend, he didn't show sneaky lateral quickness or great instincts. 

[D.o.s.]

Creighton's offense was a lot like the Orlando system SVG, in this case Doug was Dwight. They'd work him in the post often to establish position and then he'd either get the ball, or more often start cutting or flashing to get open jump shots after his man was pinned somewhat. That was their core set base.

They'd also run him around stagger screens ray allen style if teams had a bigger player guarding him, and he took a lot of transition 3s as the trailer.

That sort of offense won't work in the NBA since there are a lot more SF/PF types who can stick with him and also defend the post ups. (Think Jeff Green, LeBron, Pierce, etc)

I don't think much of his post game is going to translate but trailer threes, pick and pops and shooting behind flash screens will.  I could see him being one of those role players who have true shooting percentages in the 60s.   I think he's going to really struggle defensively.  I don't understand people who think he's underrated defensively.  What are they basing that on?  He didn't expend any energy on defense and when he actually had to defend, he didn't show sneaky lateral quickness or great instincts.

A lot of it seems to be based in the idea that anyone who thinks he's going to be a bad defender thinks so because he's a white guy.

[Galeto]

Creighton's offense was a lot like the Orlando system SVG, in this case Doug was Dwight. They'd work him in the post often to establish position and then he'd either get the ball, or more often start cutting or flashing to get open jump shots after his man was pinned somewhat. That was their core set base.

They'd also run him around stagger screens ray allen style if teams had a bigger player guarding him, and he took a lot of transition 3s as the trailer.

That sort of offense won't work in the NBA since there are a lot more SF/PF types who can stick with him and also defend the post ups. (Think Jeff Green, LeBron, Pierce, etc)

I don't think much of his post game is going to translate but trailer threes, pick and pops and shooting behind flash screens will.  I could see him being one of those role players who have true shooting percentages in the 60s.   I think he's going to really struggle defensively.  I don't understand people who think he's underrated defensively.  What are they basing that on?  He didn't expend any energy on defense and when he actually had to defend, he didn't show sneaky lateral quickness or great instincts.

A lot of it seems to be based in the idea that anyone who thinks he's going to be a bad defender thinks so because he's a white guy.

Also that he must be a smart team defender because...?  He may very well become good at reading the offense on defense but that doesn't mean much if you don't have the defensive skills to force a stop.  Players can score just fine if it's just a body in front of them.  It's hard to think of a good team defender who also wasn't a good individual defender.

[footey]

He did not look good defensively in one on one drills at recent Charlotte pre-draft workout, per today's Chad Ford.  Warren looked superb, according to Ford. Still, thinks Hornets will draft McBuckets because they need a spot up shooter for their offense.

[danglertx]

Creighton didn't run their offense for him.

Would like you like to buy some beachfront propety I have on the moon?  If you believe they did not run their offense for him you're pretty naive.


He was 3rd in the Nation at FG attempted.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/statistics/player/_/stat/field-goals/sort/fieldGoalsAttempted

He attempted 206 three point goals.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/51586/doug-mcdermott


He attempted 627 FG attempts.  the next guy on the team Wragge shot 242.   Sure looks like they ran offense for him.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/156/creighton-bluejays

I suppose the basketball fairy just happened to bless him a lot, perhaps?   Of course, they ran plays for him he CAN SHOOT.   That is just coachspeak from the dad and him saying the right thing that they didn't run plays for him and played as a team.   Sometimes the coaches son is the best player but they can't come out and say that folks.

He might have taken the shots but they didn't run an offense for him.  There weren't iso plays or staggered screens for him.  They ran a motion offense and eventually he'd get the ball off a pick or make a move but it certainly wasn't an offense where every player out there was working to get him a shot.

You can look at the numbers and say they did, but I watched the games, and they didn't.

[Galeto]

Creighton didn't run their offense for him.

Would like you like to buy some beachfront propety I have on the moon?  If you believe they did not run their offense for him you're pretty naive.


He was 3rd in the Nation at FG attempted.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/statistics/player/_/stat/field-goals/sort/fieldGoalsAttempted

He attempted 206 three point goals.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/51586/doug-mcdermott


He attempted 627 FG attempts.  the next guy on the team Wragge shot 242.   Sure looks like they ran offense for him.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/156/creighton-bluejays

I suppose the basketball fairy just happened to bless him a lot, perhaps?   Of course, they ran plays for him he CAN SHOOT.   That is just coachspeak from the dad and him saying the right thing that they didn't run plays for him and played as a team.   Sometimes the coaches son is the best player but they can't come out and say that folks.

He might have taken the shots but they didn't run an offense for him.  There weren't iso plays or staggered screens for him.  They ran a motion offense and eventually he'd get the ball off a pick or make a move but it certainly wasn't an offense where every player out there was working to get him a shot.

You can look at the numbers and say they did, but I watched the games, and they didn't.

Why does that matter?  I don't know what your conception of running a play for someone is but he was clearly the focus of his team's offense.  He had freedom to roam.  His teammates frequently set up screens for him to get him shots.  They looked for him in the post.  He had space to operate when he took a bigger guy off the dribble.  There were a lot more action set up for him than say for Wiggins who mostly got the ball when it rotated to him on the perimeter.  The same for Parker who worked a lot in isolation.  There aren't a lot of creative offenses in college anyway to set up plays for players.

 

[Celtics4ever]

You can look at the numbers and say they did, but I watched the games, and they didn't.

You watched the games, that makes it right of course.   JK( dripping with sarcasm)

He shot nearly 400 more shots than the next guy, he was their OFFENSE!  What are you his agent?

The games I saw, with all due respect, he was their offense.  Wragge showed up a bit but the rest of time were not very good.