Great article on CelticsBlog about a blockbuster Rondo-Anthony-Love-Asik trade.

[Jon]

Dont  think I would trade Green, Sully and 4 first rounders for Love..Minny be crazy not to do this deal..don't get me wrong, I want love but that's a lot to give up

I agree that that might be a bit steep. And regardless of whether that's too much or not, I think that giving up that much all but destroys any shot we'd ever have at Carmelo. If we are going to land him, we're going to need some of those picks to trade to the Knicks.

[slamtheking]

Nice and detailed, but there is a problem. He has us trading the following in the Love deal:

Jeff Green, Jared Sullinger, Keith Bogans
2014 Celtics 1st (#6), 2014 Nets 1st (#17)
2015 Clippers 1st, 2016 Nets 1st

and then this in the Melo trade:

Brandon Bass, Kris Humphries, Joel Anthony
2015 Celtics 1st, 2015 76ers 1st (or two 2nds)

We would be trading all our picks in 2014 and 2015, which we can't due to the Stepien rule.

I believe the plan was to trade the 2014 picks after the draft (essentially draft for Minny) so that the 2015 picks are available to trade.  I wouldn't do it -- way too much to give up for Love.  Minny got much less for KG

[winsomme]

When I see trades where we have to give up this much for KLove I get frustrated because with a few more losses this year KLove coming here wouldn't even be a debate at this point and we wouldn't  have to give up our stockpile of picks much less Jeff Green....

Ugh. Anyway at this point Danny has to do whatever to get Love and I think Flip knows that because if Rondo doesn't have a copilot he's probably gone in FA.

[Irish Stew]

This point by Winnsomme is an excellent  one. When you think that we are giving up too many assets for Love, remember we also probably get to keep Rondo too and the trade becomes a lot easier to swallow.

[pearljammer10]

4 firsts Green and Sully for Love but only 1 first, two second rounders and a pile of crap expirings for Melo? Huh?

Also I love how we are at the point of "Jeff Greens albatross contract"... What? He was top 25 in total points this year and is a great two way player making only 9 mil a year... Plus he has an option next year... I don't understand the Green hate.

And as for the celticsblog post I like my idea better and even though crazy far fetched seems more realistic trade value wise than the original article.

Since I've beaten my offseason plan to a dead horse in many threads....I'll keep beating it but tweak it for the sake of getting crazy.

Sully, #6, Wallace two future firsts for Love

S+T Bradley future first for Afflalo

Trade exception for Asik/Lin

Green, Bass, Bogans, unguaranteeds, Anthony, #17, two future firsts for Carmelo.

Sign Pierce to a low level contract. Sign Okafor to MLE. Sign Jimmer to a vet min.

Rondo/Lin
Afflalo/Jimmer
Melo/Pierce
Love/KO
Asik/Okafor

Maxes our finances to the tippy top. Puts us in championship caliber contention for at least 5 years.

[JBcat]

4 firsts Green and Sully for Love but only 1 first, two second rounders and a pile of crap expirings for Melo? Huh?

Also I love how we are at the point of "Jeff Greens albatross contract"... What? He was top 25 in total points this year and is a great two way player making only 9 mil a year... Plus he has an option next year... I don't understand the Green hate.

And as for the celticsblog post I like my idea better and even though crazy far fetched seems more realistic trade value wise than the original article.

Since I've beaten my offseason plan to a dead horse in many threads....I'll keep beating it but tweak it for the sake of getting crazy.

Sully, #6, Wallace two future firsts for Love

S+T Bradley future first for Afflalo

Trade exception for Asik/Lin

Green, Bass, Bogans, unguaranteeds, Anthony, #17, two future firsts for Carmelo.

Sign Pierce to a low level contract. Sign Okafor to MLE. Sign Jimmer to a vet min.

Rondo/Lin
Afflalo/Jimmer
Melo/Pierce
Love/KO
Asik/Okafor

Maxes our finances to the tippy top. Puts us in championship caliber contention for at least 5 years.

Really like this idea.  Just wonder if Minnesota will take Wallace's contract in deal.  Also since in sound like they want to win now, rather than rebuild maybe replace Wallace with Green in this deal, and Wallace is sent in the Melo deal.   

Also wouldn't mind resigning Hump, and even Bayless since he is more experienced than Jimmer.  Also Afflalo is better than Bradley now, but maybe Bradley still has some room for improvement being younger, and Afflalo may decline over a 5 year span.

[pearljammer10]

4 firsts Green and Sully for Love but only 1 first, two second rounders and a pile of crap expirings for Melo? Huh?

Also I love how we are at the point of "Jeff Greens albatross contract"... What? He was top 25 in total points this year and is a great two way player making only 9 mil a year... Plus he has an option next year... I don't understand the Green hate.

And as for the celticsblog post I like my idea better and even though crazy far fetched seems more realistic trade value wise than the original article.

Since I've beaten my offseason plan to a dead horse in many threads....I'll keep beating it but tweak it for the sake of getting crazy.

Sully, #6, Wallace two future firsts for Love

S+T Bradley future first for Afflalo

Trade exception for Asik/Lin

Green, Bass, Bogans, unguaranteeds, Anthony, #17, two future firsts for Carmelo.

Sign Pierce to a low level contract. Sign Okafor to MLE. Sign Jimmer to a vet min.

Rondo/Lin
Afflalo/Jimmer
Melo/Pierce
Love/KO
Asik/Okafor

Maxes our finances to the tippy top. Puts us in championship caliber contention for at least 5 years.

Really like this idea.  Just wonder if Minnesota will take Wallace's contract in deal.  Also since in sound like they want to win now, rather than rebuild maybe replace Wallace with Green in this deal, and Wallace is sent in the Melo deal.   

Also wouldn't mind resigning Hump, and even Bayless since he is more experienced than Jimmer.  Also Afflalo is better than Bradley now, but maybe Bradley still has some room for improvement being younger, and Afflalo may decline over a 5 year span.

Yup I could see Green and Wallace being swapped for sure. Jimmer was the only vet min shooter I could think of at the time. I too would prefer to sign Bayless and Hump instead to round out the roster but am not sure if they would sign vet mins.

[Irish Stew]

Repeat after me: "The Wolves do not want Wallace.'' The only teams that will take Wallace are teams that are under the cap and not giving up anything and will take him in exchange for at least one and probably two future first round picks. Trading Kevin Love is not the same as not giving up anything.

[pearljammer10]

Repeat after me: "The Wolves do not want Wallace.'' The only teams that will take Wallace are teams that are under the cap and not giving up anything and will take him in exchange for at least one and probably two future first round picks. Trading Kevin Love is not the same as not giving up anything.

The Wolves have said they want a veteran with too many young pieces already. By attaching a pick to Wallace's contract it makes the salaries work, get the extra draft pick and give them an expiring next year for when the see what direction they are going in.

But this is why, if you read above, Green would be better off to go to the Wolves instead. Sending Wallace and a pick attached to the Knicks (who desperately need picks) plus two more restocked their draft pile and again gives them an expiring for when they need it.

[KGs Knee]

Repeat after me: "The Wolves do not want Wallace.'' The only teams that will take Wallace are teams that are under the cap and not giving up anything and will take him in exchange for at least one and probably two future first round picks. Trading Kevin Love is not the same as not giving up anything.

The Wolves have said they want a veteran with too many young pieces already. By attaching a pick to Wallace's contract it makes the salaries work, get the extra draft pick and give them an expiring next year for when the see what direction they are going in.

But this is why, if you read above, Green would be better off to go to the Wolves instead. Sending Wallace and a pick attached to the Knicks (who desperately need picks) plus two more restocked their draft pile and again gives them an expiring for when they need it.

I think that seems about right.

Green, Sully & Bogans to Minny...

Wallace, Bass & Joel Anthony to NYK...

Each team gets 3 1st Rd picks

[KGs Knee]

Then send Olynyk + TPE + 2015 1st to Houston for Asik.

Celtics still have picks in 2016 & 2018 and probably the immediate use of the full MLE.

[HeadDoctorJ]

I don't see why nabbing Melo from NYK would require giving up that much. For them, S&T would be a much better option than Melo just walking. Assuming Melo is dead set on leaving (eg, for BOS), basically anything they get is gravy.

Here's my idea: http://www.celticsblog.com/2014/6/7/5788278/trading-for-banner-18

Trade 2 is quite a reach, admittedly, mostly for HOU. Maybe they also need a pick or something (eg, #17)?

[Irish Stew]

TPE can't be combined with a player, only with draft picks.

[KGs Knee]

TPE can't be combined with a player, only with draft picks.

The TPE can't be combined with a player to cover the incoming salary, yes. However, if the TPE alone is large enough to cover the incoming player's salary, additional players can be included in the trade.

In essence, BOS would use the TPE to cover Asik's salary. Sending Olynyk would have no bearing on that.   HOU would also be able to take on Olynyk because TPE are non-transferrable and don't actually count as incoming salary.  However, HOU would receive a 'new' TPE of their own for the difference between Asik's contract and Olynyk's.

[Irish Stew]

Thanx to KGsKnee for that TPE correction. With regard to the Knicks taking Wallace along with 3 first rounders, I guess that is very tempting and something they would very likely do if Anthony says that he is leaving and unlike the Wolves who have Love under contract, the Knicks have almost no leverage.