Should we blow everything up and trade rondo for a lottery

[furball]

I think you might have the right state but the wrong city.  Look south.  Once the Lakers signed Kobe to that ridiculous contract they slammed into "Win Now" mode.  What are they going to do with a rookie?  If they can't use it to get Love I would bet anything they would give up the 7th pick for Rondo if the Celtics wanted it. 

[Future Celtics Owner]

Rondo does deserve star money. I think you are equating star money with a max contract though. I believe Rondo is ALREADY making star money and so does he. I would post the video backing that claim up, but I'm not going to spend the time finding it when you apparently don't like watching (or reading) what I post.

And i think your equating a max contract with out looking at the CBA and what it does and does not allow. You may want to inform yourself on the collective bargaining agreement ...

[Future Celtics Owner]

I think you might have the right state but the wrong city.  Look south.  Once the Lakers signed Kobe to that ridiculous contract they slammed into "Win Now" mode.  What are they going to do with a rookie?  If they can't use it to get Love I would bet anything they would give up the 7th pick for Rondo if the Celtics wanted it.

I have thought of this. I just feel horrible seeing Rondo to the Lakers.

[fitzhickey]

In response to you saying Rondo can't shoot: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/courtvision-everything-you-think-you-know-about-rondos-shooting-is-wrong/

I'm not saying he is a good shooter, but saying he can't shoot isn't true.

Also, he has NEVER said he wanted max money. I don't know why so many people regurgitate the same things about Rondo.

I don't need to watch a puff piece about Rondo's shooting. And your right Rondo can shoot....layups great.

1. You aren't watching anything. It's an article.

2. If you took two minutes to actually read the article you would see why you're wrong. This would lead to you becoming a more informed fan and hopefully spewing less crap about Rondo.

This just makes you look like an elitist . Its so funny when people come on the internet and brag how informed they are. I read the article, and its nothing I did not pick up from watching Rondo his whole career. Although, it did make my point. Rondo is great at layups

Uhg.

This isn't a me vs. you thing. We're both Celtics fans. I didn't say I was a more informed fan, or even an informed fan. I said IF you read that article you could become a more informed fan. Please don't distort what I said.

The article didn't just talk about layups either, come on.

Don't even try. Some people here will spew complete nonsense just to hate on Rondo.

[colincb]

For those who think this is a good idea:

Given that you now would have a very young team, no stars, and a rookie PG at the helm, when do you see us returning to the playoffs?

[Future Celtics Owner]

In response to you saying Rondo can't shoot: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/courtvision-everything-you-think-you-know-about-rondos-shooting-is-wrong/

I'm not saying he is a good shooter, but saying he can't shoot isn't true.

Also, he has NEVER said he wanted max money. I don't know why so many people regurgitate the same things about Rondo.

I don't need to watch a puff piece about Rondo's shooting. And your right Rondo can shoot....layups great.

1. You aren't watching anything. It's an article.

2. If you took two minutes to actually read the article you would see why you're wrong. This would lead to you becoming a more informed fan and hopefully spewing less crap about Rondo.

This just makes you look like an elitist . Its so funny when people come on the internet and brag how informed they are. I read the article, and its nothing I did not pick up from watching Rondo his whole career. Although, it did make my point. Rondo is great at layups

Uhg.

This isn't a me vs. you thing. We're both Celtics fans. I didn't say I was a more informed fan, or even an informed fan. I said IF you read that article you could become a more informed fan. Please don't distort what I said.

The article didn't just talk about layups either, come on.

ehhh
Ok..it kind of seemed you were getting a little personal...Its all good. Its late and i just saw "a million ways to die in the west"...I'll even give you a tp

[Tr1boy]

I have a gut feeling that if Sac is going to lose out on Love, they will offer the 8 and Mclemore for Rondo and 17th or future 1st.  Danny likely doesn't go with the trade but you never know

  Supposedly they were set to offer more than that last year before they got word Rondo didn't want to play there. That ship has probably sailed.

I doubt it. The kings are desperate.   Their owner is desperate to make the playoffs.

They are in the running for love but team like the Bulls have the edge right now. Melo doesn't really fit with them bc they have Gay (and hoping he is back. Signs are he will).   They like thomas but know he is not the right PG for the team. I mean he scored 20 ppg  (maxed out what he can do) and they were still a bad team.

Kings can really use a vet player, need a pass first PG and someone who has been to the playoffs.  Rondo fits the requirements. Last year he couldn't guarantee he will sign an extension.  But Sac i don't think cares about this anymore as they are willing to trade whatever for Love even if he won't resign

Last years offer was Thomas, Mclemore and 2014 1st. Bc Rondo won't guarantee to resign, i think Mclemore , 8th for Rondo and 17th or future 1st is a fair offer.   

Celtics could easily trade the 6th or 8th with a future with to grab Smart and one of Gordon, Randle, Vonleh

[bucknersrevenge]

I have a gut feeling that if Sac is going to lose out on Love, they will offer the 8 and Mclemore for Rondo and 17th or future 1st.  Danny likely doesn't go with the trade but you never know

He loses out on Love, Melo is not going to come here, Morey is crazy asking alot for Asik etc.

Danny doesn't want to risk going into next season without added help, but also will not overpay.

We are not getting love imo.  So his next logical step could be to trade Rondo

A very good chance we can get Smart at 8 and Gordon at 6. I wouldn't mind this at all

My first choice is still getting Love but ending up with Smart and Gordon leading this team with AB, Sully and KO would not be a bad consolation prize at all. That is a core I could absolutely enjoy watching grow up. And given how bad the East is, you have a few well placed vets, with our coach, I honestly don't think it would be very long before we got back to the playoffs.

[nickagneta]

It's a great start onto the 2015 FA frenzy

Can you explain to me why any established star would want to come to the Celtics in free agency in 2015 when the team is composed of mostly players with less than three years experience and no stars whatsoever to speak of?

[Future Celtics Owner]

For those who think this is a good idea:

Given that you now would have a very young team, no stars, and a rookie PG at the helm, when do you see us returning to the playoffs?

My answer is I don't know, and thats me being honest. But at the same time we are the celtics and its not about how many times you make the playoffs or even if you go somewhat far..Only championships matter.

I am definitely conflicted on what to do. Keep Rondo or trade him.

[Tr1boy]

I have a gut feeling that if Sac is going to lose out on Love, they will offer the 8 and Mclemore for Rondo and 17th or future 1st.  Danny likely doesn't go with the trade but you never know

He loses out on Love, Melo is not going to come here, Morey is crazy asking alot for Asik etc.

Danny doesn't want to risk going into next season without added help, but also will not overpay.

We are not getting love imo.  So his next logical step could be to trade Rondo

A very good chance we can get Smart at 8 and Gordon at 6. I wouldn't mind this at all

My first choice is still getting Love but ending up with Smart and Gordon leading this team with AB, Sully and KO would not be a bad consolation prize at all. That is a core I could absolutely enjoy watching grow up. And given how bad the East is, you have a few well placed vets, with our coach, I honestly don't think it would be very long before we got back to the playoffs.

+1

KO
Sully
Gordon
?
Smart

You add a third big player (rim protector, like a stronger WCS), add a deadly 3 pt shooter at the sg position and this would be a difficult team to play against.  No traditional PG but a tank, explosive SF, skilled PFs.  I can see this lineup alot of times having Sully and KO out on the perimeter and Gordon and/or Smart beating their smaller opponents to the net for finishing on contact layups, out jumping,  out rebounding etc. Smart is a very tough player and has excellent post scoring skills.  Imagine a scrawny MCW trying his best to prevent Smart front getting close to the basket. Or Chris Paul just getting mandhandled

[Schiller]

I think you might have the right state but the wrong city.  Look south.  Once the Lakers signed Kobe to that ridiculous contract they slammed into "Win Now" mode.  What are they going to do with a rookie?  If they can't use it to get Love I would bet anything they would give up the 7th pick for Rondo if the Celtics wanted it.

I have thought of this. I just feel horrible seeing Rondo to the Lakers.

I do think the Lakers would do this. It might even be easier to deal Rondo to the Lakers than it would be to deal him to Sac town. I agree though. I'd hate seeing Rondo in purple and gold.

And Future Celtics Owner: We're all good man. Didn't mean to make anything sound personal. Just trying to have good b-ball discussion.

[nickagneta]

That team has trouble winning 20 games for 3-4 years.

[Tr1boy]

It's a great start onto the 2015 FA frenzy

Can you explain to me why any established star would want to come to the Celtics in free agency in 2015 when the team is composed of mostly players with less than three years experience and no stars whatsoever to speak of?

assets + picks to build a championship team.   We don't have to be desperate for a love for example. Could trade for a top top two way players (s). Even better assets than we had in 2007 before trading for KG/Allen

I feel though with such a lineup we would be a top 5 team in the east in a few years

[furball]

Here's another team to think about.   Orlando.  Word is the Celtics will try to trade up.  Some suggest it's to sweeten the pot for Minny but what if Ainge just wants a higher pick (which is what I feel).  Everyone assumes Orlando is going to draft Exum.  Well, would they rather have Rondo, an established vet all-star?  How about Rondo and 17 for 4?  The Celtics then take Exum at 4 and then whoever they want at 6 (preferably not another undersized power forward). 

I can't imagine a team ahead of the Celtics would trade their pick for more picks so if Ainge was looking to move up it would have to be for a player, right?  Rondo is the only one with any value and Orlando is the only team that needs a PG.  Or at least can use one.