Trading #17 + a future 1st to move up this year?

[paidthecost2betheboss]

Anybody touched on this?
Possible Danny and Co. Considering swapping #17 + a future 1st rounder (2016 for example) to move on a player they think might be gone and be worth it in this draft. Get 2 young studs (by their evaluation) instead of 1 and a possible bench/D-leaguer.

I never bought Danny and his downplaying the talent in this draft. If he could Get Gordon and Saric....I wonder if he'd try this?

I am not a big believer in the Love scenario as it and Rondo are both wildcards.

[Donoghus]

Iff Parker drops to #4, I'd offer #6, #17, and the Clippers 1st rounder to Orlando to see if they'd bite.

I still don't know if ORL would bite, though.

[knuckleballer]

How many spots do you think they could move up by offering a future first rounder?  I'd like to see them move up a few spots to get Stauskas, but I wouldn't give up a future first rounder.

Saric is too much of an unknown to give up that much for my liking. 

[Watch them all]

I'm all for this as long as we don't give up any of the Brooklyn picks, all of which I think have a good chance of being lottery picks including the swap 2017 pick, and we can move down to no worse than 13. In fact if we could move to 9 or 10, I would seriously consider of giving up our two future No 1 picks, say Clippers pick in 2015 and ours in 2016. Why? Because if we can't make Love, then drafting very promising picks now as opposed to waiting will likely hasten the rebuild. My only other caveat would be that If we can trade for defensive center like Asik and one of these two no.1s jeopardizes that possibility, I would need to reconsider.

[NorthernLightning]

What you guys don't realize is that multiple real studs will be available right at 17.

[paidthecost2betheboss]

Iff Parker drops to #4, I'd offer #6, #17, and the Clippers 1st rounder to Orlando to see if they'd bite.

I still don't know if ORL would bite, though.

I was thinking keep #6 and package our 17 plus a future first for another top 10,11. This year.
I don't think we take Saric at 6 but do think Danny might like him at 10,11. Nuggets might like Saric.

[saltlover]

Anybody touched on this?
Possible Danny and Co. Considering swapping #17 + a future 1st rounder (2016 for example) to move on a player they think might be gone and be worth it in this draft. Get 2 young studs (by their evaluation) instead of 1 and a possible bench/D-leaguer.

I never bought Danny and his downplaying the talent in this draft. If he could Get Gordon and Saric....I wonder if he'd try this?

I am not a big believer in the Love scenario as it and Rondo are both wildcards.

He's clearly shown his willingness to trade up before, such as last year for Olynyk.  I think, as with anything, it depends on the perceived value and cost.  If there's a player out there who's considerably higher on the board than all the others, it could happen.  I think most likely he'd offer the Sixers protected 1st to try to move up a few spots.  Say Saric falls to #15 (I don't think he will), maybe Atlanta would be willing to drop a couple of spots.  Maybe Minnesota would be willing to if they don't like anyone at #13, since they owe a protected pick to Phoenix in the future.  To swap with Denver is probably the best way to get Saric since I doubt Orlando lets him past #12-- that would certainly cost a future 1st.

If not Saric, again, I could see Danny falling in love with a player and wanting to nab him.  At the same time, the draft is pretty deep, and there will be a very good player available at #17.

[Donoghus]

Iff Parker drops to #4, I'd offer #6, #17, and the Clippers 1st rounder to Orlando to see if they'd bite.

I still don't know if ORL would bite, though.

I was thinking keep #6 and package our 17 plus a future first for another top 10,11. This year.
I don't think we take Saric at 6 but do think Danny might like him at 10,11. Nuggets might like Saric.

In that scenario, I'd probably be more inclined to stand pat at #17 and keep the future first rounder.  You can still get pretty good value at #17 and not sure its worthe the expense of a future first rounder (albeit an unknown slotting) to move up 6 or 7 spots.

[paidthecost2betheboss]

Why? Because if we can't make Love, then drafting very promising picks now as opposed to waiting will likely hasten the rebuild. My only other caveat would be that If we can trade for defensive center like Asik and one of these two no.1s jeopardizes that possibility, I would need to reconsider.

This. Kinda.

Danny has... and has had eyes on this crop all year or longer and giving up a future pick might be easier to swallow since it really is an unknown and if a future pick is really needed by us then were pretty ****** .

Stevens and his motion offense would seem more practical and fun and realistic with some high motor highly athletic studs now and not some trade imports. He's gonna go trade or draft and he's gonna do the one he chooses/ can do as big as he can.

Moving up this year using future assets seems possible. Maybe even ideal. Not what some wanna hear but we have a young coach on a 6 year. Giving him some serious youth with high character and athleticism wouldn't be a bad "B" plan.

[NorthernLightning]

Also fellas, a bunch of quality bigs decided to stay in school for next year, which will make that draft bountiful all through the top 20.

WCS, Marcus Lee, Chris Walker, Dakari Johnson, Harrell, Hammons, Kaleb Tarczewski, SF Hollis Jefferson, PF Brandon Ashley, in addition to freshmen Okafor, Alexander, Towns, and other non-bigs.

We're not winning a championship next year, so draft for potential at pick 17, and enjoy the bounty of picks in the coming years.

[Eddie20]

I would likely do #17 and LAC 2015 for ealy teens and be able to draft Stauskas. He fills a glaring need (shooting/spacing) and would be a cornerstone for the future.

I'm not too confident in the LAC pick turning out to much. Plus, in all liklihood we'll have the Sixers 2nd rd pick. That should only be a few spots after the LAC pick, but a 2nd rounder doesn't have a guaranteed contract.

[hpantazo]

I would likely do #17 and LAC 2015 for ealy teens and be able to draft Stauskas. He fills a glaring need (shooting/spacing) and would be a cornerstone for the future.

I'm not too confident in the LAC pick turning out to much. Plus, in all liklihood we'll have the Sixers 2nd rd pick. That should only be a few spots after the LAC pick, but a 2nd rounder doesn't have a guaranteed contract.

Don't trade the clippers pick yet. If the Sterling saga continues it may be a lottery pick.

[saltlover]

I would likely do #17 and LAC 2015 for ealy teens and be able to draft Stauskas. He fills a glaring need (shooting/spacing) and would be a cornerstone for the future.

I'm not too confident in the LAC pick turning out to much. Plus, in all liklihood we'll have the Sixers 2nd rd pick. That should only be a few spots after the LAC pick, but a 2nd rounder doesn't have a guaranteed contract.

Don't trade the clippers pick yet. If the Sterling saga continues it may be a lottery pick.

The way you do it is just trade the lesser of our 2015 picks.  If you think both might be lottery picks, you protect them.  For instance, if you're trading to 11, you offer #17, and the lesser of our 2015 draft picks, top-10 protected.  I think that's a bit of an overpay, but that's how you do it.  As I've said in multiple other threads, people need to stop saying "save the Clippers pick" or "save the brooklyn pick".  You either trade the lesser of picks if you're concerned about giving away too much, or the greater of the picks if you're trying to sweeten the pot, because then the odds increase for the receiving team.  This is standard procedure in draft pick trades.

[green147]

Don't know about a future first, but I'd be plenty happy if they traded the fake Philly first (really 2 2nd rounders) to move up a couple spots and grab their guy.

[byennie]

I like the value at #17, but if the price is right I'd move up a few spots for Gary Harris. He's a cut above the post lottery talent, and fits the Celtics needs: lights out shooter and defender.

I wouldn't mind seeing Smart plus Harris on draft night. That would be scooping up a ton of 2-way talent.