Instead of Love, what about drafting these two players

[D.o.s.]

Does it matter if we get love and win or win like the 04 pistons with no big big name players

I thought the Pistons model was gathering big name players to be successful (Billups, Sheed, Ben Wallace), no?

Similar to what Miami did with LBJ,Wade and Bosh?

I've posted the link before, but there's some evidence that Ben Wallace played so well in 2004 that he aught to be considered a superstar.

  I don't think that's the point of the "no superstar" comment. He and Billups would both be pretty high on the all-time "late bloomers" list though.

For sure -- I'm just saying that "no big name players," while it might be accurate as far as general fan awareness goes, isn't close to the on-the-court reality.

[loco_91]

McBuckets isn't the guy you want at #6 at all. He's a defensive liability. His poor tools call into question his ability to translate his offensive game. He can come in and put up good numbers as a rookie, but this is the kind of guy that you draft to fill a role right away for good cap space value, not the kind of guy you build around in the long run.

[Tr1boy]

McBuckets isn't the guy you want at #6 at all. He's a defensive liability. His poor tools call into question his ability to translate his offensive game. He can come in and put up good numbers as a rookie, but this is the kind of guy that you draft to fill a role right away for good cap space value, not the kind of guy you build around in the long run.

Can you build around pierce or ray allen or parker?  Not stating mcdermott or warren will be as good but all of these guys main specialties r scoring

[Fafnir]

McBuckets isn't the guy you want at #6 at all. He's a defensive liability. His poor tools call into question his ability to translate his offensive game. He can come in and put up good numbers as a rookie, but this is the kind of guy that you draft to fill a role right away for good cap space value, not the kind of guy you build around in the long run.

Can you build around pierce or ray allen or parker?  Not stating mcdermott or warren will be as good but all of these guys main specialties r scoring

Both Allen and Pierce were guys who you could build an offense around, you can't do that for McDermott in the pros.

Also neither was a defensive liability physically.

[D.o.s.]

McBuckets isn't the guy you want at #6 at all. He's a defensive liability. His poor tools call into question his ability to translate his offensive game. He can come in and put up good numbers as a rookie, but this is the kind of guy that you draft to fill a role right away for good cap space value, not the kind of guy you build around in the long run.

Can you build around pierce or ray allen or parker?  Not stating mcdermott or warren will be as good but all of these guys main specialties r scoring

[Donoghus]

My foot would go through my tv if the Celtics took McDermott with the 6th pick.

[indeedproceed]

McBuckets isn't the guy you want at #6 at all. He's a defensive liability. His poor tools call into question his ability to translate his offensive game. He can come in and put up good numbers as a rookie, but this is the kind of guy that you draft to fill a role right away for good cap space value, not the kind of guy you build around in the long run.

Can you build around pierce or ray allen or parker?  Not stating mcdermott or warren will be as good but all of these guys main specialties r scoring

Both Allen and Pierce were guys who you could build an offense around, you can't do that for McDermott in the pros.

Also neither was a defensive liability physically.

Well Ray Allen's knock was pretty persistent that he was a defensive liability because of his ankles, it just proved to be over-blown.

But a key thing here is that when they acquired Ray Allen, he was already a premier scorer in the NBA. Even if McDermott gets there, it won't be for a few years. By then any free agent window in 2015 will have come and gone, for better or worse.

[Tr1boy]

McBuckets isn't the guy you want at #6 at all. He's a defensive liability. His poor tools call into question his ability to translate his offensive game. He can come in and put up good numbers as a rookie, but this is the kind of guy that you draft to fill a role right away for good cap space value, not the kind of guy you build around in the long run.

Can you build around pierce or ray allen or parker?  Not stating mcdermott or warren will be as good but all of these guys main specialties r scoring

Both Allen and Pierce were guys who you could build an offense around, you can't do that for McDermott in the pros.

Also neither was a defensive liability physically.

Mcdermott and warren r not liabilities on the defensive end. They were not in college and were good team defenders.

Jabari parker was a defensive liability

[Fafnir]

My foot would go through my tv if the Celtics took McDermott with the 6th pick.

I'd start several fire Ainge thread's myself.

I seriously think that pick would be a fireable offense.

[D.o.s.]

My foot would go through my tv if the Celtics took McDermott with the 6th pick.

I'd start several fire Ainge thread's myself.

I seriously think that pick would be a fireable offense.

In tb16's defense, he did say that he wasn't specifically talking about using the 6th pick, and was happy with trading down to get McDermott

[Fafnir]

My foot would go through my tv if the Celtics took McDermott with the 6th pick.

I'd start several fire Ainge thread's myself.

I seriously think that pick would be a fireable offense.

In tb16's defense, he did say that he wasn't specifically talking about using the 6th pick, and was happy with trading down to get McDermott

He'd have to trade down to 16 or so before I'd be happy with McDermott. Not the sort of talen the C's need.

[D.o.s.]

My foot would go through my tv if the Celtics took McDermott with the 6th pick.

I'd start several fire Ainge thread's myself.

I seriously think that pick would be a fireable offense.

In tb16's defense, he did say that he wasn't specifically talking about using the 6th pick, and was happy with trading down to get McDermott

He'd have to trade down to 16 or so before I'd be happy with McDermott. Not the sort of talen the C's need.

I think he'd need to trade down to about 55 or so before I'd be ok with Doug McD.

[NorthernLightning]

My foot would go through my tv if the Celtics took McDermott with the 6th pick.

I'd start several fire Ainge thread's myself.

I seriously think that pick would be a fireable offense.

In tb16's defense, he did say that he wasn't specifically talking about using the 6th pick, and was happy with trading down to get McDermott

He'd have to trade down to 16 or so before I'd be happy with McDermott. Not the sort of talen the C's need.

I think he'd need to trade down to about 55 or so before I'd be ok with Doug McD.

You guys are poorly informed.

[D.o.s.]

My foot would go through my tv if the Celtics took McDermott with the 6th pick.

I'd start several fire Ainge thread's myself.

I seriously think that pick would be a fireable offense.

In tb16's defense, he did say that he wasn't specifically talking about using the 6th pick, and was happy with trading down to get McDermott

He'd have to trade down to 16 or so before I'd be happy with McDermott. Not the sort of talen the C's need.

I think he'd need to trade down to about 55 or so before I'd be ok with Doug McD.

You guys are poorly informed.

Doubtful. But don't be upset that we're not as high on one of your favorite draft prospects as you are.

[NorthernLightning]

I really like both players, but they don't compliment each other very well, especially since KO and Sully are already iffy defenders with no rim protection.

Picks that would compliment each other:

Vonleh and Warren
Gordon and McDermott
McDermott and Porzingis/Capela.