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Re: Instead of Love, what about drafting these two players
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2014, 08:12:12 AM »

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Acquiring a legitimate star entering his prime trumps any kind of draft plan outside of a real 5 star player. Mcbuckets ain't that.

This is the real answer.

Basketball is a business.....more than just WHO might be a nice player.

For most of us hard core fans ....it's about pure basketball on the court value

Fact is is way more than that.

I like Sully and KO too, and a ton of nice young players ...but fact is they do not attract other elite talent.

Players have to earn their stripes

Players like Love want to win and play with other proven vets .

Basketball is about making money ....bottom line .

I understand about your point of view. But for me its all about winning. Everything else comes to place after

Re: Instead of Love, what about drafting these two players
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2014, 08:16:20 AM »

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No thanks. Rather have Kevin Love and return to being competitive.

I have no interest in watching a losing product (not that I would watch anyway if the team was bad.)


And your post is WHY ....this team won't tank to get potential stars.......Wye wants headlines, people in the stands ....NOW......not five years when Maybe Sully becomes a star.

I believe DA would trade his mother to,get KLove on this team ...I think he is full bore attack get it done mode.

He needs to for so many reasons .

Not landing a star , is something the organization can't afford to do to,keep,the momentum going.

Re: Instead of Love, what about drafting these two players
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2014, 08:19:26 AM »

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Acquiring a legitimate star entering his prime trumps any kind of draft plan outside of a real 5 star player. Mcbuckets ain't that.

This is the real answer.

Basketball is a business.....more than just WHO might be a nice player.

For most of us hard core fans ....it's about pure basketball on the court value

Fact is is way more than that.

I like Sully and KO too, and a ton of nice young players ...but fact is they do not attract other elite talent.

Players have to earn their stripes

Players like Love want to win and play with other proven vets .

Basketball is about making money ....bottom line .

I understand about your point of view. But for me its all about winning. Everything else comes to place after

Then you are likely to be disappointed my friend.....a bunch of no name draft picks are never worth the money of KLove .


Re: Instead of Love, what about drafting these two players
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2014, 08:21:53 AM »

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No thanks. Rather have Kevin Love and return to being competitive.

I have no interest in watching a losing product (not that I would watch anyway if the team was bad.)

I will watch win or lose. And cheer for wins regardless.

If ppl want rondo to stay and want to obtain players that can work with him (but we cant find trading partners, we cant move up) warren and mcdermott could be a potential solution. At least the offense could be very good. Better than rondo plus green. Just doesnt work

Re: Instead of Love, what about drafting these two players
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2014, 08:22:08 AM »

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No thanks. Rather have Kevin Love and return to being competitive.

I have no interest in watching a losing product (not that I would watch anyway if the team was bad.)


And your post is WHY ....this team won't tank to get potential stars.......Wye wants headlines, people in the stands ....NOW......not five years when Maybe Sully becomes a star.

I believe DA would trade his mother to,get KLove on this team ...I think he is full bore attack get it done mode.

He needs to for so many reasons .

Not landing a star , is something the organization can't afford to do to,keep,the momentum going.

Not sure if you're agreeing or disagree with me but if you read my reply, you'll see I want no part of rebuilding through the draft. I WANT the Celts to trade for Kevin Love and I WANT the team to return to being competitive ASAP.

Re: Instead of Love, what about drafting these two players
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2014, 09:03:23 AM »

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Does it matter if we get love and win or win like the 04 pistons with no big big name players

Re: Instead of Love, what about drafting these two players
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2014, 09:05:57 AM »

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Does it matter if we get love and win or win like the 04 pistons with no big big name players

I thought the Pistons model was gathering big name players to be successful (Billups, Sheed, Ben Wallace), no?

Similar to what Miami did with LBJ,Wade and Bosh?

Re: Instead of Love, what about drafting these two players
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2014, 09:14:14 AM »

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Does it matter if we get love and win or win like the 04 pistons with no big big name players

I thought the Pistons model was gathering big name players to be successful (Billups, Sheed, Ben Wallace), no?

Similar to what Miami did with LBJ,Wade and Bosh?

I've posted the link before, but there's some evidence that Ben Wallace played so well in 2004 that he aught to be considered a superstar.
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Re: Instead of Love, what about drafting these two players
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2014, 09:55:54 AM »

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Thank the heavens your not our GM.  McDermott give me a break?  I think he is a reach for 6.

Re: Instead of Love, what about drafting these two players
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2014, 10:04:19 AM »

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I rather keep our 6th and draft Marcus Smart

Trade anyone on the team not named Rondo + 3 first rounders for Love

I do have a crazy idea though not sure if it is feasible, but I'm leaning towards a not feasible

1. Keep Rondo
2. Trade Green + Sullinger + 3 first rounders for Kevin Love
3. Trade rest of team not named Rondo or Love and any first rounders left for Carmelo

Now you have a big 3 of Rondo/Melo (Go to scorer)/Love

use Pierce TE for Larry Sanders

If we can keep Bradley (if not used in any trade, but not likely if we are getting two stars), then have him tone down his offense and up his defense like 2012

Surround the the big 3 with defensive players and probably ONE scorer off the bench (I would like to see Bayless stay though)

Rondo/Bradley/Melo/Love/Sanders

Re: Instead of Love, what about drafting these two players
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2014, 10:05:51 AM »

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Thank the heavens your not our GM.  McDermott give me a break?  I think he is a reach for 6.

Reach is a charitable interpretation, IMO.
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Re: Instead of Love, what about drafting these two players
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2014, 10:17:53 AM »

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Thank the heavens your not our GM.  McDermott give me a break?  I think he is a reach for 6.

Who said to use the 6th for mcdermott. Trade down or whatever to get him. Tj warren wont be avail at 17 also

Are you considering their PER ratings??

Re: Instead of Love, what about drafting these two players
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2014, 10:27:38 AM »

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No thanks. Rather have Kevin Love and return to being competitive.

I have no interest in watching a losing product (not that I would watch anyway if the team was bad.)


And your post is WHY ....this team won't tank to get potential stars.......Wye wants headlines, people in the stands ....NOW......not five years when Maybe Sully becomes a star.

I believe DA would trade his mother to,get KLove on this team ...I think he is full bore attack get it done mode.

He needs to for so many reasons .

Not landing a star , is something the organization can't afford to do to,keep,the momentum going.

Correct.

The Celtics are not the Toronto Raptors.

Surprising there's so little understanding of that.
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Re: Instead of Love, what about drafting these two players
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2014, 10:37:27 AM »

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Does it matter if we get love and win or win like the 04 pistons with no big big name players

I thought the Pistons model was gathering big name players to be successful (Billups, Sheed, Ben Wallace), no?

Similar to what Miami did with LBJ,Wade and Bosh?

I've posted the link before, but there's some evidence that Ben Wallace played so well in 2004 that he aught to be considered a superstar.

  I don't think that's the point of the "no superstar" comment. He and Billups would both be pretty high on the all-time "late bloomers" list though.

Re: Instead of Love, what about drafting these two players
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2014, 11:14:53 AM »

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No thanks. Rather have Kevin Love and return to being competitive.

I have no interest in watching a losing product (not that I would watch anyway if the team was bad.)


And your post is WHY ....this team won't tank to get potential stars.......Wye wants headlines, people in the stands ....NOW......not five years when Maybe Sully becomes a star.

I believe DA would trade his mother to,get KLove on this team ...I think he is full bore attack get it done mode.

He needs to for so many reasons .

Not landing a star , is something the organization can't afford to do to,keep,the momentum going.

Correct.

The Celtics are not the Toronto Raptors.

Surprising there's so little understanding of that.

Not sure what you mean. They got a solid team and are in a better position than us right now. We cant keep buildimg temp contenders. I rather do what the early 80s celts did and have long term success if possible.  Its painful but worth it

Warren and mcdermott down the line could be steals. They could be just as decent scorers in the nba. Again both guys carried their teams. What if you combine them plus have rondo feed them the ball . Its a thought

I rather have gordon(but he is really young) and will require patients