Instead of Love, what about drafting these two players

[Tr1boy]

I know some fans here are dying to get Love to:

1) get back to being relavent again and make the  playoffs
2) make up the fact the team is not going to draft a top 3-4 pick
3) get someone Rondo can feed the ball to and entice him to stay 
4) get a bonafide superstar you can rely on game after game

I will be honest at this point with what happened yesterday i rather start a full rebuild. Draft guys like Gordon and Stauskus at 17, trade Rondo and let Stevens pretty much start from scratch.

But it looks like nobody wants to do this and nobody is patient to do this.  So intead what about this alternative plan if we can't get someone like a Love via trade(or don't want to give up the farm) but also do not go through a full rebuild or incompatibility route (Rondo and vets vs rookies)

Draft night

Draft Mcdermott and Warren. Before some people start laughing, these two guys had the highest PER ratings of all of college last season.  Both were scoring machines (avg about 25 ppg) on pretty mediocre teams. Imagine what they could do if they teammed up, played with better players and Rondo fed them the ball. Both guys would greatly benefit having a pg like Rondo pass the ball to them as they are not the greatest shot creators. But they are excellent at finding open spots on the court , or cutting to the basket (like pierce) for scoring opportunities. Both guys run around so much, it could tire out the opposing teams defense

Then trade Green, future 1sts, TAE etc. whatever combination and cost least to grab Asik.  Then again use whatever cost the least and trade for a 2nd center/pf rim protector.  Trade for or sign 2 or 3 key vets

Lineup

C- Asik
PF- KO
SF - Mcdermott
SG - Warren
PG - Rondo

Bench
C - 2nd rim protector
PF - Sullinger/Bass
SF - FA signing/Wallace
SG - FA signing/Johnson
PF- Pressey/Bayless

The lineup while doesn't look exciting nor would be a great defensive team could potentially be a very strong offensive team.   Team defense should be good bc these guys will put in the effort, have good iqs and at least now you have a decent rim protector in Asik.   

thoughts?

[fitzhickey]

I'm a big Warren fan, but doubt he has the athleticism to keep up with the seriously quick 2 guards.

[indeedproceed]

Acquiring a legitimate star entering his prime trumps any kind of draft plan outside of a real 5 star player. Mcbuckets ain't that.

[Tr1boy]

I'm a big Warren fan, but doubt he has the athleticism to keep up with the seriously quick 2 guards.

I know. But he is not as slow as some ppl think. Very good anticipation skills.

But yeah, a guy like dwade could do a number on him. However he would also cause alot of issues on the other end as he would have height/size adv over most sg guards.  He has an excellent motor and i've seen him put in the extra effort to stay in front of his man. His overall game and that floater reminds me of how Joe Johnson plays

For this lineup to work, the team defense would have to be really good.  The rotations etc would have to spurs like good. Worse case you have Asik/2nd center to protect the rim and KO has good mobility plus size to help out.  Bass is decent, and you can have defensive specialists like Johnson to step in , in late game situations.

[fitzhickey]

Acquiring a legitimate star entering his prime trumps any kind of draft plan outside of a real 5 star player. Mcbuckets ain't that.

Warren is though 

[Tr1boy]

Acquiring a legitimate star entering his prime trumps any kind of draft plan outside of a real 5 star player. Mcbuckets ain't that.

Love is a star but he is a mediocre defender like Mcbuckets/Warren.  He is a vet though but still only mediocre

Like i've stated these two guys Mcdermott and Warren had the highest PER of all of college ball last season. Over 30 which is no joke. They know how to score and do it effeciently.

[D.o.s.]

McDermott is probably going to have a Mike Dunleavy esque career. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[Ragingrondo]

I personally want us to draft randle, vonleh, smart at 6 and at 17 if he is there lavine

[Tr1boy]

McDermott is probably going to have a Mike Dunleavy esque career. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

dunleavy jr best year in college was in his jr year where he scored 17 per game.  Mcdermott scored 22 ppg by his 2nd year.    He also played on a much more mediocre team . Both Mcdermott and Warren were literally double teamed from the start of the game. 

Opposing teams basically needed to stop/slow down these guys and they had a good chance to win the game. But it didn't matter. Two guys on them, defense mainly focusing on them. They still scored on avg 25 ppg. I think each had several 30 plus point games and  three 40 plus point games. Impressive

[knuckleballer]

I don't think Rondo is sticking around next season if that's our lineup.  If we are going the rebuild route, it would better to trade Rondo for assets. 

[Tr1boy]

I personally want us to draft randle, vonleh, smart at 6 and at 17 if he is there lavine

but you see, you want to rebuild.    Randle, Vonleh are so young.  They need to learn plays, stay out of foul trouble etc.

Warren and Mcdermott especially are nba ready.  They would also work really well with Rondo imo

[D.o.s.]

McDermott is probably going to have a Mike Dunleavy esque career. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

dunleavy jr best year in college was in his jr year where he scored 17 per game.  Mcdermott scored 22 ppg by his 2nd year.    He also played on a much more mediocre team . Both Mcdermott and Warren were literally double teamed from the start of the game. 

Opposing teams basically needed to stop/slow down these guys and they had a good chance to win the game. But it didn't matter. Two guys on them, defense mainly focusing on them. They still scored on avg 25 ppg. I think each had several 30 plus point games and  three 40 plus point games. Impressive

I'm talking about the NBA when I say "Mike Dunleavy esque career." The only college tidbit I care about, really, is the fact that Dunleavy was drafted 3rd overall, and McDermott and Warren won't be.

Also, what you've described is not an accurate way to describe Creighton's offense at all.

[Tr1boy]

I don't think Rondo is sticking around next season if that's our lineup.  If we are going the rebuild route, it would better to trade Rondo for assets.

i'm guessing you think both Warren and Mcdermott will not be good nba players.

It's not a shoe in they will be scoring the same way as they did in college. But i don't remember the last time college players scoring over 20 ppg and with PER ratings over 30, at least not being  decent scorers in the nba.

[SHAQATTACK]

Acquiring a legitimate star entering his prime trumps any kind of draft plan outside of a real 5 star player. Mcbuckets ain't that.

This is the real answer....your exactly right.

Beyond maybe Wiggins and Parker.....the rest have nothing in their banks to offer Star players at this point , they are unproven nothings in the NBA.

Basketball is a business.....more than just WHO might be a nice player.

For most of us hard core fans ....it's about pure basketball on the court value

Fact is is way more than that.

I like Sully and KO too, and a ton of nice young players ...but fact is they do not attract other elite talent.

Players have to earn their stripes

Players like Love want to win and play with other proven vets .

Basketball is about making money ....bottom line .

[gpap]

No thanks. Rather have Kevin Love and return to being competitive.

I have no interest in watching a losing product (not that I would watch anyway if the team was bad.)