Kings put the #8 pick on the trading block

[knuckleballer]

Can somebody here explain something to me - what is the fascination with McLemore?

I haven't watched him play at all, but looking at his statistics he looks absolutely horrendous...like serious D-league material.

Is there something I'm missing?  Does he have certain aspects to his game that give him major upside, that you don't see in the stats (elite defense, elite athleticism, inconsistent flashes of dominance, etc)? 

Just curious because on statistics alone he makes Marshon Brooks look like a superstar, so given how many people are obsessed with trading for him I just figured there must be more to him than meets the eye.

Physically, he's the prototypical SG.  He has good size, a very good shooting stroke, and outstanding athleticism.  Bill Self described him as the most talented player he ever coached.  That was of course prior to Wiggins and Embiid.

He had a really tough upbringing, growing up around extreme poverty, violence, and drugs.  That's likely lead to some maturity issues for him.  Nothing major, but he was arrested for not showing up to court for an alcohol violation and he was academically ineligible to play his freshman year at Kansas.  On the court, he's too passive and lacks confidence.

If he can mature on and off the court, he has the potential of becoming a very good player, maybe all star calibre. 

[gpap]

Can somebody here explain something to me - what is the fascination with McLemore?

I haven't watched him play at all, but looking at his statistics he looks absolutely horrendous...like serious D-league material.

Is there something I'm missing?  Does he have certain aspects to his game that give him major upside, that you don't see in the stats (elite defense, elite athleticism, inconsistent flashes of dominance, etc)? 

Just curious because on statistics alone he makes Marshon Brooks look like a superstar, so given how many people are obsessed with trading for him I just figured there must be more to him than meets the eye.

We need a player on the team with the "Big Mac" nickname.

[Moranis]

I'd rather not trade Rondo and would rather do something like Bass, Bogans, Green for Landry, Thompson, Williams, #8.  That gets Sacramento a lot more cap flexibility and better players in Bass and Green than Landry, Thompson, and Williams at the expense of #8.  It really depends on how much Boston wants that second top 8 pick at the expense of cap flexibility. 

[BballTim]

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/05/20/kings-put-pick-on-trade-block/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts

The Kings put the No. 8 pick in the draft on the trade block immediately after the lottery Tuesday night, league sources told NBA.com, clearly looking to add at least one impact veteran in an attempt to push into the playoff conversation next season rather than wait for another rookie prospect to develop.

The Kings have several needs in the aftermath of the 28-54 finish, most notably an upgrade on defense, adding dependable perimeter shooting and finding a playmaker point guard, whether or not Isaiah Thomas returns as a restricted free agent. Those could be addressed at No. 8 in the draft, but with the possibility of the kind of test of patience they just went through with Ben McLemore, the seventh pick in 2013.

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A S&T'd AB would give them the perimeter D they need so badly and a decent 3 pt shooter.

AB for McLemore and #8, I'd do.

Lol. Of course you would.  That's grand larceny.

Why wouldn't the Kings just trade for Afflalo instead?

Any conversation involving the #8 pick starts and ends with Rondo.

  Rondo's a 4 time all-star in his 20s. If any conversation involving the #8 pick starts with a player like that, one would assume that any conversation involving the #6 pick starts out with players above that level. I guess we're looking good on the rebuild...

[crimson_stallion]

Can somebody here explain something to me - what is the fascination with McLemore?

I haven't watched him play at all, but looking at his statistics he looks absolutely horrendous...like serious D-league material.

Is there something I'm missing?  Does he have certain aspects to his game that give him major upside, that you don't see in the stats (elite defense, elite athleticism, inconsistent flashes of dominance, etc)? 

Just curious because on statistics alone he makes Marshon Brooks look like a superstar, so given how many people are obsessed with trading for him I just figured there must be more to him than meets the eye.

Physically, he's the prototypical SG.  He has good size, a very good shooting stroke, and outstanding athleticism.  Bill Self described him as the most talented player he ever coached.  That was of course prior to Wiggins and Embiid.

He had a really tough upbringing, growing up around extreme poverty, violence, and drugs.  That's likely lead to some maturity issues for him.  Nothing major, but he was arrested for not showing up to court for an alcohol violation and he was academically ineligible to play his freshman year at Kansas.  On the court, he's too passive and lacks confidence.

If he can mature on and off the court, he has the potential of becoming a very good player, maybe all star calibre.

So what I suspected is pretty much 100% correct - he has done absolutely nothing of value in the NBA so far, and people are obsessed with him based purely on his physical attributes.

Essentialy, people here want to trade the best player (and most valuable asset) on our team for a potentially mediocre draft pick and a totally mediocre prospect, in the hope that one of those two will one day pleasantly surprise us. 

Right.

[knuckleballer]

Can somebody here explain something to me - what is the fascination with McLemore?

I haven't watched him play at all, but looking at his statistics he looks absolutely horrendous...like serious D-league material.

Is there something I'm missing?  Does he have certain aspects to his game that give him major upside, that you don't see in the stats (elite defense, elite athleticism, inconsistent flashes of dominance, etc)? 

Just curious because on statistics alone he makes Marshon Brooks look like a superstar, so given how many people are obsessed with trading for him I just figured there must be more to him than meets the eye.

Physically, he's the prototypical SG.  He has good size, a very good shooting stroke, and outstanding athleticism.  Bill Self described him as the most talented player he ever coached.  That was of course prior to Wiggins and Embiid.

He had a really tough upbringing, growing up around extreme poverty, violence, and drugs.  That's likely lead to some maturity issues for him.  Nothing major, but he was arrested for not showing up to court for an alcohol violation and he was academically ineligible to play his freshman year at Kansas.  On the court, he's too passive and lacks confidence.

If he can mature on and off the court, he has the potential of becoming a very good player, maybe all star calibre.

So what I suspected is pretty much 100% correct - he has done absolutely nothing of value in the NBA so far, and people are obsessed with him based purely on his physical attributes.

Essentialy, people here want to trade the best player (and most valuable asset) on our team for a potentially mediocre draft pick and a totally mediocre prospect, in the hope that one of those two will one day pleasantly surprise us. 

Right.

If you trade Rondo, that will create an opening at point guard and we can draft Smart and can still draft Gordon at 8.  That will give us a corps of:

1.  Smart
2.  Bradley, Mclemore
3.  Green, Gordon
4.  Sully, Olynyk
5.  ? maybe Asik

That's a big rebuild and a young team.  We'd be back in the lottery next year.  I agree, I'd rather keep Rondo and try to improve the team.

[LilRip]

Can somebody here explain something to me - what is the fascination with McLemore?

he won rookie of the year, with hits like Thrift Shop and Can't Hold Us. Oh wait..

[Lucky17]

If the Kings want a playmaking PG, perhaps they'd package the #8 and sweetener to move up to #6 to take Smart, assuming he's still there.

[saltlover]

Can somebody here explain something to me - what is the fascination with McLemore?

I haven't watched him play at all, but looking at his statistics he looks absolutely horrendous...like serious D-league material.

Is there something I'm missing?  Does he have certain aspects to his game that give him major upside, that you don't see in the stats (elite defense, elite athleticism, inconsistent flashes of dominance, etc)? 

Just curious because on statistics alone he makes Marshon Brooks look like a superstar, so given how many people are obsessed with trading for him I just figured there must be more to him than meets the eye.

Physically, he's the prototypical SG.  He has good size, a very good shooting stroke, and outstanding athleticism.  Bill Self described him as the most talented player he ever coached.  That was of course prior to Wiggins and Embiid.

He had a really tough upbringing, growing up around extreme poverty, violence, and drugs.  That's likely lead to some maturity issues for him.  Nothing major, but he was arrested for not showing up to court for an alcohol violation and he was academically ineligible to play his freshman year at Kansas.  On the court, he's too passive and lacks confidence.

If he can mature on and off the court, he has the potential of becoming a very good player, maybe all star calibre.

To further discuss the academic ineligibility -- it really wasn't McLemore's fault.  His public high school was so bad that it was dissolved by the state.  He went to a basketball prep school afterwards, but the NCAA ruled that he hadn't had enough accredited high schooling to be academically eligible his first year.  To be honest, the NCAA was probably correct in this instance.

[PhoSita]

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/05/20/kings-put-pick-on-trade-block/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts

The Kings put the No. 8 pick in the draft on the trade block immediately after the lottery Tuesday night, league sources told NBA.com, clearly looking to add at least one impact veteran in an attempt to push into the playoff conversation next season rather than wait for another rookie prospect to develop.

The Kings have several needs in the aftermath of the 28-54 finish, most notably an upgrade on defense, adding dependable perimeter shooting and finding a playmaker point guard, whether or not Isaiah Thomas returns as a restricted free agent. Those could be addressed at No. 8 in the draft, but with the possibility of the kind of test of patience they just went through with Ben McLemore, the seventh pick in 2013.

.

A S&T'd AB would give them the perimeter D they need so badly and a decent 3 pt shooter.

AB for McLemore and #8, I'd do.

Lol. Of course you would.  That's grand larceny.

Why wouldn't the Kings just trade for Afflalo instead?

Any conversation involving the #8 pick starts and ends with Rondo.

  Rondo's a 4 time all-star in his 20s. If any conversation involving the #8 pick starts with a player like that, one would assume that any conversation involving the #6 pick starts out with players above that level. I guess we're looking good on the rebuild...

The 6 is the most valuable asset the Celtics have at the moment.  The next most valuable is Rondo.  The gulf between Rondo and the next most valuable asset is pretty large.  So the conversation starts and ends with Rondo for that reason.

Nobody is trading a top 10 pick -- in any draft, let alone this one -- for Avery Bradley.

[kg is king]

I am sure if the Mclemore was on the Celtics, we'll be dubbing him the next Kobe.

[D.o.s.]

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/05/20/kings-put-pick-on-trade-block/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts

The Kings put the No. 8 pick in the draft on the trade block immediately after the lottery Tuesday night, league sources told NBA.com, clearly looking to add at least one impact veteran in an attempt to push into the playoff conversation next season rather than wait for another rookie prospect to develop.

The Kings have several needs in the aftermath of the 28-54 finish, most notably an upgrade on defense, adding dependable perimeter shooting and finding a playmaker point guard, whether or not Isaiah Thomas returns as a restricted free agent. Those could be addressed at No. 8 in the draft, but with the possibility of the kind of test of patience they just went through with Ben McLemore, the seventh pick in 2013.

.

A S&T'd AB would give them the perimeter D they need so badly and a decent 3 pt shooter.

AB for McLemore and #8, I'd do.

Lol. Of course you would.  That's grand larceny.

Why wouldn't the Kings just trade for Afflalo instead?

Any conversation involving the #8 pick starts and ends with Rondo.

  Rondo's a 4 time all-star in his 20s. If any conversation involving the #8 pick starts with a player like that, one would assume that any conversation involving the #6 pick starts out with players above that level. I guess we're looking good on the rebuild...

The 6 is the most valuable asset the Celtics have at the moment.  The next most valuable is Rondo.  The gulf between Rondo and the next most valuable asset is pretty large.  So the conversation starts and ends with Rondo for that reason.

Nobody is trading a top 10 pick -- in any draft, let alone this one -- for Avery Bradley.

yup.

[BballTim]

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/05/20/kings-put-pick-on-trade-block/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts

The Kings put the No. 8 pick in the draft on the trade block immediately after the lottery Tuesday night, league sources told NBA.com, clearly looking to add at least one impact veteran in an attempt to push into the playoff conversation next season rather than wait for another rookie prospect to develop.

The Kings have several needs in the aftermath of the 28-54 finish, most notably an upgrade on defense, adding dependable perimeter shooting and finding a playmaker point guard, whether or not Isaiah Thomas returns as a restricted free agent. Those could be addressed at No. 8 in the draft, but with the possibility of the kind of test of patience they just went through with Ben McLemore, the seventh pick in 2013.

.

A S&T'd AB would give them the perimeter D they need so badly and a decent 3 pt shooter.

AB for McLemore and #8, I'd do.

Lol. Of course you would.  That's grand larceny.

Why wouldn't the Kings just trade for Afflalo instead?

Any conversation involving the #8 pick starts and ends with Rondo.

  Rondo's a 4 time all-star in his 20s. If any conversation involving the #8 pick starts with a player like that, one would assume that any conversation involving the #6 pick starts out with players above that level. I guess we're looking good on the rebuild...

The 6 is the most valuable asset the Celtics have at the moment.  The next most valuable is Rondo.  The gulf between Rondo and the next most valuable asset is pretty large.  So the conversation starts and ends with Rondo for that reason.

Nobody is trading a top 10 pick -- in any draft, let alone this one -- for Avery Bradley.

  Go check out the #8 picks in the last 10 or so drafts, then come back and tell me you'd trade Sully for an average or so player out of that group in a heartbeat. I dare ya.

[fandrew]

How about this trade with the kings?

Avery Bradley and the 17th pick and Phili conditional pick

for

Ben McLemore and the 8th pick

It shores up Sac Towns Perimeter Defense, and gives them an offball offensive threat in Avery Bradley, (he can then resign with them, and he and Cousins are apperently buddies)

We get a bigger younger guy at the same position with a good contract who can come off the bench, and we can either use or trade the second top ten pick as part of a package for Kevin Love or someone else.

I don't know that Sac Town does this, but it seems like a reasonable trade.

[Phil125]

I'd be very happy if we could get the 8 and come out of this draft with Dario Saric and Marcus Smart

PG Rondo
SG Smart
SF Saric
PF Sully
Center to be named later

I think we would have to give up the #17 and two future 1st rounders to do it though.