Kings put the #8 pick on the trading block

[PhoSita]

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/05/20/kings-put-pick-on-trade-block/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts

The Kings put the No. 8 pick in the draft on the trade block immediately after the lottery Tuesday night, league sources told NBA.com, clearly looking to add at least one impact veteran in an attempt to push into the playoff conversation next season rather than wait for another rookie prospect to develop.

The Kings have several needs in the aftermath of the 28-54 finish, most notably an upgrade on defense, adding dependable perimeter shooting and finding a playmaker point guard, whether or not Isaiah Thomas returns as a restricted free agent. Those could be addressed at No. 8 in the draft, but with the possibility of the kind of test of patience they just went through with Ben McLemore, the seventh pick in 2013.

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A S&T'd AB would give them the perimeter D they need so badly and a decent 3 pt shooter.

AB for McLemore and #8, I'd do.

Lol. Of course you would.  That's grand larceny.

Why wouldn't the Kings just trade for Afflalo instead?

Any conversation involving the #8 pick starts and ends with Rondo.

[manl_lui]

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/05/20/kings-put-pick-on-trade-block/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts

The Kings put the No. 8 pick in the draft on the trade block immediately after the lottery Tuesday night, league sources told NBA.com, clearly looking to add at least one impact veteran in an attempt to push into the playoff conversation next season rather than wait for another rookie prospect to develop.

The Kings have several needs in the aftermath of the 28-54 finish, most notably an upgrade on defense, adding dependable perimeter shooting and finding a playmaker point guard, whether or not Isaiah Thomas returns as a restricted free agent. Those could be addressed at No. 8 in the draft, but with the possibility of the kind of test of patience they just went through with Ben McLemore, the seventh pick in 2013.

.

A S&T'd AB would give them the perimeter D they need so badly and a decent 3 pt shooter.

AB for McLemore and #8, I'd do.

Lol. Of course you would.  That's grand larceny.

Why wouldn't the Kings just trade for Afflalo instead?

Any conversation involving the #8 pick starts and ends with Rondo.

I'd do it if it guarantees us Marcus Smart in return...OR, trade for the #8, and trade both our #7 and #8 to get top 3....OR trade one or both our picks to grab Love, OR use both our picks - one for Love and one for Melo or another star?

[crimson_stallion]

Rondo for McLemore and the rights to the #8 works for me. We'd be guaranteed of getting a player in the tier that includes Gordon, Smart, and Vonleh, which is right before another drop off in the draft. Having the 6, 8, and 17 picks also allows Ainge with the opportunity of packaging picks to move up in the draft.

This is obviously dependent on a Love trade not coming to pass.

I would not do this.

Whoever is available at #8 has a fairly low chance of developing in to a star (which Rondo already is) and and McLemore so far has done nothing at all to impress me (12/4/1 per 36 on 38% FG).

If I were Rondo I would be downright insulted if Boston made that deal.  To be honest I wouldn't even give up Sully + #17 for that.

There are a few teams out there who are stuck with tough decisions to make about star players who don't really fit in - Carmello, Love, Monroe, etc. 

Carmello and Love are probably a long shot, but the Pistons really need to let Monroe go so they can move Smith to his natural PF spot.  They may well take Rondo AND Wallace if it's the best offer they get.  They could veteran experience and they could use a proper PG, plus everybody knows Rondo and Josh Smith are close friends.  I think there's a good chance they would do this deal, and Boston could do a lot worse than Greg Monroe and a big trade exception in return for Rondo. 

Plus Monroe is only 24 years old and a very skilled offensive player so he's probably more valuable to us than Rondo in our current rebuilding movement.  He's also 6'11", 250lbs and has a 7'2" wingspan so he gives us legit size for the center spot.  A frontcourt rotation of Sully+Olynyk+Monroe may not be the greatest in rim protection, but it sure would be a handful for opposing defenses to handle. 

[crimson_stallion]

Can somebody here explain something to me - what is the fascination with McLemore?

I haven't watched him play at all, but looking at his statistics he looks absolutely horrendous...like serious D-league material.

Is there something I'm missing?  Does he have certain aspects to his game that give him major upside, that you don't see in the stats (elite defense, elite athleticism, inconsistent flashes of dominance, etc)? 

Just curious because on statistics alone he makes Marshon Brooks look like a superstar, so given how many people are obsessed with trading for him I just figured there must be more to him than meets the eye.

[goCeltics]

rondo is not resigning in sactown, end of story.

[Eddie20]

Can somebody here explain something to me - what is the fascination with McLemore?

I haven't watched him play at all, but looking at his statistics he looks absolutely horrendous...like serious D-league material.

Is there something I'm missing?  Does he have certain aspects to his game that give him major upside, that you don't see in the stats (elite defense, elite athleticism, inconsistent flashes of dominance, etc)? 

Just curious because on statistics alone he makes Marshon Brooks look like a superstar, so given how many people are obsessed with trading for him I just figured there must be more to him than meets the eye.

Elite athleticism and shooting. Obviously his shooting wasn't much to write home about after his rookie season, but he has a lot of Beal to his game. Plus, he just turned 21. It's odd that you said "more than meets the eye" when you also said "I haven't watched him play at all" a few sentences above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL_3Hd42gQM

[Fafnir]

Lots of good to great shooters shoot like crap as rookies.

Durant/Beal certainly did.

[Smitty77]

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/05/20/kings-put-pick-on-trade-block/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts

The Kings put the No. 8 pick in the draft on the trade block immediately after the lottery Tuesday night, league sources told NBA.com, clearly looking to add at least one impact veteran in an attempt to push into the playoff conversation next season rather than wait for another rookie prospect to develop.

The Kings have several needs in the aftermath of the 28-54 finish, most notably an upgrade on defense, adding dependable perimeter shooting and finding a playmaker point guard, whether or not Isaiah Thomas returns as a restricted free agent. Those could be addressed at No. 8 in the draft, but with the possibility of the kind of test of patience they just went through with Ben McLemore, the seventh pick in 2013.

.

A S&T'd AB would give them the perimeter D they need so badly and a decent 3 pt shooter.

AB for McLemore and #8, I'd do.

Lol. Of course you would.  That's grand larceny.

Why wouldn't the Kings just trade for Afflalo instead?

Any conversation involving the #8 pick starts and ends with Rondo.

I agree and disagree.  That being said, I think that Bradley and one of the future Philly 2nd rounders is VERY FAIR for the #8 pick.  BTW, when did Afflalo become a good defender???  Has he EVER been a 2nd team All-NBA defender?  Maybe I missed that.

Smitty77

[PhoSita]

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/05/20/kings-put-pick-on-trade-block/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts

The Kings put the No. 8 pick in the draft on the trade block immediately after the lottery Tuesday night, league sources told NBA.com, clearly looking to add at least one impact veteran in an attempt to push into the playoff conversation next season rather than wait for another rookie prospect to develop.

The Kings have several needs in the aftermath of the 28-54 finish, most notably an upgrade on defense, adding dependable perimeter shooting and finding a playmaker point guard, whether or not Isaiah Thomas returns as a restricted free agent. Those could be addressed at No. 8 in the draft, but with the possibility of the kind of test of patience they just went through with Ben McLemore, the seventh pick in 2013.

.

A S&T'd AB would give them the perimeter D they need so badly and a decent 3 pt shooter.

AB for McLemore and #8, I'd do.

Lol. Of course you would.  That's grand larceny.

Why wouldn't the Kings just trade for Afflalo instead?

Any conversation involving the #8 pick starts and ends with Rondo.

I agree and disagree.  That being said, I think that Bradley and one of the future Philly 2nd rounders is VERY FAIR for the #8 pick.  BTW, when did Afflalo become a good defender???  Has he EVER been a 2nd team All-NBA defender?  Maybe I missed that.

Smitty77

Afflalo has been viewed as a 3 and D guy for his whole career, until this latest season when he added further dimensions to his game.

[Smitty77]

Can somebody here explain something to me - what is the fascination with McLemore?

I haven't watched him play at all, but looking at his statistics he looks absolutely horrendous...like serious D-league material.

Is there something I'm missing?  Does he have certain aspects to his game that give him major upside, that you don't see in the stats (elite defense, elite athleticism, inconsistent flashes of dominance, etc)? 

Just curious because on statistics alone he makes Marshon Brooks look like a superstar, so given how many people are obsessed with trading for him I just figured there must be more to him than meets the eye.

Elite athleticism and shooting. Obviously his shooting wasn't much to write home about after his rookie season, but he has a lot of Beal to his game. Plus, he just turned 21. It's odd that you said "more than meets the eye" when you also said "I haven't watched him play at all" a few sentences above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL_3Hd42gQM

37.6% shooting is HORRIBLE!!!  He also average ONLY 1 assist and more turnovers than assists.  7.8 Efficiency Rating.

I really do NOT understand the preoccupation with him at all either!!

Smitty77

[Smitty77]

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/05/20/kings-put-pick-on-trade-block/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts

The Kings put the No. 8 pick in the draft on the trade block immediately after the lottery Tuesday night, league sources told NBA.com, clearly looking to add at least one impact veteran in an attempt to push into the playoff conversation next season rather than wait for another rookie prospect to develop.

The Kings have several needs in the aftermath of the 28-54 finish, most notably an upgrade on defense, adding dependable perimeter shooting and finding a playmaker point guard, whether or not Isaiah Thomas returns as a restricted free agent. Those could be addressed at No. 8 in the draft, but with the possibility of the kind of test of patience they just went through with Ben McLemore, the seventh pick in 2013.

.

A S&T'd AB would give them the perimeter D they need so badly and a decent 3 pt shooter.

AB for McLemore and #8, I'd do.

Lol. Of course you would.  That's grand larceny.

Why wouldn't the Kings just trade for Afflalo instead?

Any conversation involving the #8 pick starts and ends with Rondo.

I agree and disagree.  That being said, I think that Bradley and one of the future Philly 2nd rounders is VERY FAIR for the #8 pick.  BTW, when did Afflalo become a good defender???  Has he EVER been a 2nd team All-NBA defender?  Maybe I missed that.

Smitty77

Afflalo has been viewed as a 3 and D guy for his whole career, until this latest season when he added further dimensions to his game.

Point taken, but he has NOT really shown much D since his last year in Denver.

http://www.magicbasketball.net/2013/01/17/the-good-and-bad-of-arron-afflalo/

First sentence:  Heading into the season, the scouting report on Arron Afflalo from his final year with the Denver Nuggets was that his defense had regressed, in part because he worked on expanding his offensive repertoire.

Smitty77

[Who]

Can somebody here explain something to me - what is the fascination with McLemore?

A highly rated player coming out of college. I think that is all it is.

Takes time for those expectations to come back down.

[BleedGreen1989]

Lots of good to great shooters shoot like crap as rookies.

Durant/Beal certainly did.

Agreed.

If you watched him in college, the talent is clearly there.

[moiso]

Can somebody here explain something to me - what is the fascination with McLemore?

A highly rated player coming out of college. I think that is all it is.

Takes time for those expectations to come back down.

Yep.  Reminds me of Derrick Williams.  McLemore has great tools but hasn't shown anything yet.

[BleedGreen1989]

Can somebody here explain something to me - what is the fascination with McLemore?

A highly rated player coming out of college. I think that is all it is.

Takes time for those expectations to come back down.

Yep.  Reminds me of Derrick Williams.  McLemore has great tools but hasn't shown anything yet.

I get what you're saying but Williams was a clear tweener, which has contributed to his "bust" status.

McLemore at least has a very obvious position. He's a SG.