If you yourself recognize that the chances of Cleveland getting three #1 overall picks in the last four years is very, very slim, why are you complaining? Cleveland has been incredibly, shockingly, stupidly lucky. The lottery system should not be changed because of that.

I don't think the lottery system should be abolished altogether. I just think if you get the top pick twice in three years and you still can't get your act together, you shouldn't be given another for at least a couple years.

Even going back to the 2003 draft your looking at Cleveland getting 4 NUMBER 1's in 11 years.  That too is astounding.  Then you look at the other picks like Tristan Thompson at number 4 Dion Waiters number 4.

That is a really impressive number of top picks.  Draft wheel here we come.

It's worth noting that the last time they changed the system was when the Magic got a pair of #1 picks in back-to-back years.

the draft is a stupid system every other sport the worse team gets the best pick, the lotto doesn't even stop teams from tanking, all year people were  saying team were tanking, yet we have a lotto system, all it does punish the worst team and reward mediocre team thru blind luck.

if they really wanted to stop taking they would set order by date elimated from playoffs therefore you could still help out poor teams and lose the incentive to lose games at the end of the season. That would actually make sense

If the worst team got the best pick there would be more tanking than the draft lottery, not less.

It's worth noting that the last time they changed the system was when the Magic got a pair of #1 picks in back-to-back years.

Quote from: goCeltics on May 21, 2014, 09:13:15 AM

the draft is a stupid system every other sport the worse team gets the best pick, the lotto doesn't even stop teams from tanking, all year people were  saying team were tanking, yet we have a lotto system, all it does punish the worst team and reward mediocre team thru blind luck.

if they really wanted to stop taking they would set order by date elimated from playoffs therefore you could still help out poor teams and lose the incentive to lose games at the end of the season. That would actually make sense

If the worst team got the best pick there would be more tanking than the draft lottery, not less.

Bingo.

System is fine.  Cavs got lucky. 

WHen tanking teams get rewarded, people complain and ask for a change to the system.

Now when a non-tanking team gets rewarded, people complain and ask to change the system.

I'm fine with it.

TP - I don't always agree with what you have to say LarBrd, but this is totally true. All year we (a tanking team) were complaining about teams like Philly and Orlando purposely losing games, but now a team who wasn't trying to tank wins it and we all want the system changed.

I would have loved a top 3 pick, but it didn't happen. Now let's move on with our lives and either draft an impact player or trade the pick for an impact player.

One thing the lottery does is encourage teams not to tank, which I'm glad we didn't do. Teaching Sully, Bradley, Pressey, and KO how to lose was not what we needed to do.

The other thing it does is teach teams not to rely on the draft. Case in point...Greg Oden.  We lost out. Ainge said "Screw this" and made the moves he needed to. Had we won Oden maybe we'd be the Blazers right now.

What is really the Cavs problem right now? Is it the draft? Heck no. It's that they couldn't keep their own free agent or attract any others.

The draft is one piece of the puzzle, but only one. People look at it as a get out of jail free card, but it's actually a chore.

Bring back the huge ball with the envelopes in it!