What does it take to get into the top 4

[celticpride1]

Does the number 6 and the LAC pick from next year get us into the top 3 or 4?

[LatterDayCelticsfan]

I was thinking a burnt offering outside the tent of meeting, like it says in the Bible. Oh, wait, you mean by trade? The high asking price means its not likely to be worth it

[knuckleballer]

We may be able to move up to #2 with our #6, #17, and racey photos of Mallory Edens.

[LarBrd33]

Rondo, #6, Wallace for #4 and Nelson

[crimson_stallion]

If we could do #6 + Sully for any top 4 pick I would be ALL over it

[Spilling Green Dye]

If we could do #6 + Sully for any top 4 pick I would be ALL over it

Unfortunately I don't think that would be enough.  You'd probably have to throw in the #17 pick at a minimum. 

It is also conceivable that the Celtics could trade Rondo + future first rounders to move into the top 4, which I would be onboard with.  This would give the Celtics something like the #3 and #6 in this years draft.

[LooseCannon]

At this high in the draft, it might take a future unprotected first to move up one spot, so it could be as much as the #6 pick plus the 2016 and 2018 picks from Brooklyn.

[Celtics18]

There is no top four.  There's a top three.

Dante Exum is not worth trading the sixth pick plus other assets for.  I am absolutely convinced that there are going to be a number of players in this draft picked after him who end up with considerably better pro careers. 

We just need Danny to pick the right guys.

[crimson_stallion]

There is no top four.  There's a top three.

Dante Exum is not worth trading the sixth pick plus other assets for.  I am absolutely convinced that there are going to be a number of players in this draft picked after him who end up with considerably better pro careers. 

We just need Danny to pick the right guys.

And I disagree with you entirely.

After Exum the next vest guard in the draft is Smart, and there is really no benefit (skill or physically) that Smart has over Exum.  Exum is far superior athletically,  has similar defensive ability, has similar scoring ability, has the same wealness with his jump shot,  but has far superior PG skills (passing, court vision, ball handling) and is both quicker (benefit at PG) and bigger (benefit at SG).

The only other guy you could argue is on par is Vonleh.  Nobody else outside top three is a threat on both ends of the court.

[crimson_stallion]

If we could do #6 + Sully for any top 4 pick I would be ALL over it

Unfortunately I don't think that would be enough.  You'd probably have to throw in the #17 pick at a minimum. 

It is also conceivable that the Celtics could trade Rondo + future first rounders to move into the top 4, which I would be onboard with.  This would give the Celtics something like the #3 and #6 in this years draft.

Id be up for trading Sully and both picks if it gets us in the top 4.

[pearljammer10]

Rondo, #6, Wallace for #4 and Nelson

Yikes

[moiso]

There is no top four.  There's a top three.

Dante Exum is not worth trading the sixth pick plus other assets for.  I am absolutely convinced that there are going to be a number of players in this draft picked after him who end up with considerably better pro careers. 

We just need Danny to pick the right guys.

And I disagree with you entirely.

After Exum the next vest guard in the draft is Smart, and there is really no benefit (skill or physically) that Smart has over Exum.  Exum is far superior athletically,  has similar defensive ability, has similar scoring ability, has the same wealness with his jump shot,  but has far superior PG skills (passing, court vision, ball handling) and is both quicker (benefit at PG) and bigger (benefit at SG).

The only other guy you could argue is on par is Vonleh.  Nobody else outside top three is a threat on both ends of the court.

I don't know how you can say Exum has superior defensive ability.  He has a length advantage but Smart has a huge strength advantage.  And I don't know how you can say that Exum has better point guard skills.  Most scouts and gm's view Exum as more of a 2 guard, and Smart as more of a point guard.

[Celtics18]

There is no top four.  There's a top three.

Dante Exum is not worth trading the sixth pick plus other assets for.  I am absolutely convinced that there are going to be a number of players in this draft picked after him who end up with considerably better pro careers. 

We just need Danny to pick the right guys.

And I disagree with you entirely.

After Exum the next vest guard in the draft is Smart, and there is really no benefit (skill or physically) that Smart has over Exum.  Exum is far superior athletically,  has similar defensive ability, has similar scoring ability, has the same wealness with his jump shot,  but has far superior PG skills (passing, court vision, ball handling) and is both quicker (benefit at PG) and bigger (benefit at SG).

The only other guy you could argue is on par is Vonleh.  Nobody else outside top three is a threat on both ends of the court.

Are you sure that Exum is far superior athletically?  At the combine Smart measured better in the leaping measurements.  He's also far stronger than Exum.  Exum did measure better in the sprint, and only slightly better in the lateral movement test.

I'm not sure where you get the notion that Exum is a better ball handler and passer.  I think you are either underrating Smart's PG abilities or overrating Exum's. 

[Celtics18]

There is no top four.  There's a top three.

Dante Exum is not worth trading the sixth pick plus other assets for.  I am absolutely convinced that there are going to be a number of players in this draft picked after him who end up with considerably better pro careers. 

We just need Danny to pick the right guys.

And I disagree with you entirely.

After Exum the next vest guard in the draft is Smart, and there is really no benefit (skill or physically) that Smart has over Exum.  Exum is far superior athletically,  has similar defensive ability, has similar scoring ability, has the same wealness with his jump shot,  but has far superior PG skills (passing, court vision, ball handling) and is both quicker (benefit at PG) and bigger (benefit at SG).

The only other guy you could argue is on par is Vonleh.  Nobody else outside top three is a threat on both ends of the court.

I don't know how you can say Exum has superior defensive ability.  He has a length advantage but Smart has a huge strength advantage.  And I don't know how you can say that Exum has better point guard skills.  Most scouts and gm's view Exum as more of a 2 guard, and Smart as more of a point guard.

I'd be willing to bet that Smart is going to be a significantly better defender than Dante Exum at both guard positions. 

[bknova]

There is no top four.  There's a top three.

Dante Exum is not worth trading the sixth pick plus other assets for.  I am absolutely convinced that there are going to be a number of players in this draft picked after him who end up with considerably better pro careers. 

We just need Danny to pick the right guys.

don't kid yourself.  individual workouts have yet to start.  thats where the game changes.  andrew wiggins is as close to a clear cut number 1 as there is in this draft.  after individual workouts conclude, guys like marcus smart, dante exam, noah vonleigh, and aaron gordon could climb up draft boards for specific teams.  teams could fall in love with a player and move down a couple spots to grab their guy and pick up an extra pick.  draft night will be interesting.  i believe there will be a lot of movement in the top 10 picks of this draft.