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« on: May 16, 2014, 12:34:21 AM »

Offline MISSERY

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if garnett is playing 25minutes above per game, PF/C alternate
and williams is dishing 15below assist per game
and evans is not traded getting some rebounds everygame

kg would be 20+ points a game?
10 or more than rebounds?

do you think its jason kidds fault?,
because on greg pop with kg or doc rivers with kg, i don't think kg would average super low 10rebounds below and a very low scoring points
do you guys think since the lopez injury and evans being traded, kg carried the team on defense and rebounding mid-season through playoffs?

i think all players healthy they are deadly
what do you guys think?

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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2014, 11:45:01 AM »

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kg's fault? maybe he don't tell his foot is injured

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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2014, 12:19:41 PM »

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I think huge blame for j kidd

Kg doesnt drop off from 20 boards a game last year in playoffs to 6 among everything else he did well last year.

There were so many errors in kidds gameplan and coaching all year in genelral.

It may not have gpt them past the Heat but would have been a much better and competitive showing

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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2014, 12:23:26 PM »

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As much as it pains me to say, I think KG is just about cooked. 

I don't think its a matter of coaching or anything.  It just looks physical & age & all those NBA minutes are finally catching up to him.


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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2014, 12:24:48 PM »

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I think huge blame for j kidd

Kg doesnt drop off from 20 boards a game last year in playoffs to 6 among everything else he did well last year.

There were so many errors in kidds gameplan and coaching all year in genelral.

It may not have gpt them past the Heat but would have been a much better and competitive showing

so if its grep popavich or doc rivers, kg will play 25+ minutes, he will produced good numbers?
im just not sure if PF or C in those 2 coaches,

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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2014, 12:26:15 PM »

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As much as it pains me to say, I think KG is just about cooked. 

I don't think its a matter of coaching or anything.  It just looks physical & age & all those NBA minutes are finally catching up to him.

what do you expect for a player who plays 16minutes a game 38years old? 6th man of the year?
lets try dwight howard or joakim noah 16minutes below per game, will the stats drops?

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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2014, 12:28:01 PM »

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As much as it pains me to say, I think KG is just about cooked. 

I don't think its a matter of coaching or anything.  It just looks physical & age & all those NBA minutes are finally catching up to him.

what do you expect for a player who plays 16minutes a game 38years old? 6th man of the year?
lets try dwight howard or joakim noah 16minutes below per game, will the stats drops?

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.


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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2014, 12:29:37 PM »

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As much as it pains me to say, I think KG is just about cooked. 

I don't think its a matter of coaching or anything.  It just looks physical & age & all those NBA minutes are finally catching up to him.

what do you expect for a player who plays 16minutes a game 38years old? 6th man of the year?
lets try dwight howard or joakim noah 16minutes below per game, will the stats drops?

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.


one of the reason kg's points increased its because of rondo's assist and pick n' rolls, pierce numbers aren't bad too last year in celtics, d-will mostyly is a shoot 1st pg, lopez is a low post scorer those kind of big man must be paired on point guards who keep dishing some assist, this is why pacers wants rondo, even knicks or houston

kg is lost here, all players are jumpshooters and iso

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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2014, 12:31:30 PM »

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As much as it pains me to say, I think KG is just about cooked. 

I don't think its a matter of coaching or anything.  It just looks physical & age & all those NBA minutes are finally catching up to him.

what do you expect for a player who plays 16minutes a game 38years old? 6th man of the year?
lets try dwight howard or joakim noah 16minutes below per game, will the stats drops?

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.


one of the reason kg's points increased its because of rondo's assist and pick n' rolls, pierce numbers aren't bad too last year in celtics, d-will mostyly is a shoot 1st pg, lopez is a low post scorer those kind of big man must be paired on point guards who keep dishing some assist, this is why pacers wants rondo, even knicks or houston

kg is lost here, all players are jumpshooters and iso

So Kidd's coaching & D-Will's style is what's keeping KG down?  Not age?


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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2014, 12:32:46 PM »

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As much as it pains me to say, I think KG is just about cooked. 

I don't think its a matter of coaching or anything.  It just looks physical & age & all those NBA minutes are finally catching up to him.

what do you expect for a player who plays 16minutes a game 38years old? 6th man of the year?
lets try dwight howard or joakim noah 16minutes below per game, will the stats drops?

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.


one of the reason kg's points increased its because of rondo's assist and pick n' rolls, pierce numbers aren't bad too last year in celtics, d-will mostyly is a shoot 1st pg, lopez is a low post scorer those kind of big man must be paired on point guards who keep dishing some assist, this is why pacers wants rondo, even knicks or houston

kg is lost here, all players are jumpshooters and iso

So Kidd's coaching & D-Will's style is what's keeping KG down?  Not age?

put in CP3 or RONDO or WALL to the nets (swap for williams), can they beat the heat? or raptors in 5 or 6?

the best centers favors and kanter for williams? this nets team is build around on williams, but i don't see it

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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2014, 12:35:11 PM »

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So is this thread about KG?  Deron Williams?  Jason Kidd's coaching? 


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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2014, 12:38:56 PM »

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So is this thread about KG?  Deron Williams?  Jason Kidd's coaching?

sorry, im just saying that maybe kg should increased minutes and williams should control the tempo of the game, most of the game they look like a jump shooting team without any rebounders
i think kg can still play like tim duncan, i don't know who's fault it is

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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2014, 12:51:13 PM »

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There is nothing Doc or Pop could have done to make KG produce much better than he showed this season. KG is not at Duncan's level of play he's got too many miles on his body. Age.

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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2014, 07:25:19 AM »

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There is nothing Doc or Pop could have done to make KG produce much better than he showed this season. KG is not at Duncan's level of play he's got too many miles on his body. Age.

Last game he grabbed 12 boards, dished 3 assists and had 3 steals in less than 21 minutes.

In game 7 against the Raptors he grabbed 11 boards and scored 13 points in only 25 minutes.

In fact, in the only games in this playoffs where he's played at least 25 minutes he's averaging 12.5 points on 67% FG in 26 minutes.

KG '13: 12.7 ppg, 13.7 rpg, 0.8 spg, 1.0 bpg, 3.2 TO
KG '14: 7.0 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 0.9 spg, 0.6 spg, 1.0 TO

But now, let's look at it per 36 minutes:

KG '13: 12.9 pts, 13.9 reb, 0.8 stl, 1.0 blks, 3.2 TO
KG '14: 12.8 pts, 11.0 reb, 1.6 stl, 1.0 blk, 1.8 TO

Why not give him 30 - 35 minutes a game from here on out? If he's done, well, then the team hasn't lost anything because they weren't going to win anyway.

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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2014, 07:35:40 AM »

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There is nothing Doc or Pop could have done to make KG produce much better than he showed this season. KG is not at Duncan's level of play he's got too many miles on his body. Age.

Pop is a boss. I'm sure he could have squeezed some miles out of KG.