Who says "no" to this simple Rondo trade in off-season?

[gpap]

I like this idea but I think Indiana says no.

I know Hibbert has laid an egg this season headed into the playoffs, but fact remains he's still a young, legit 7 footer who can play a big role in leading a team to victory.

Don't think Larry deals him to another Eastern Conference team for Rondo.

I could however see Hibbert being involved in a deal for Indy to get a more consistent PF/C in return like Kevin Love, Demarcus Cousins or maybe even Asik.

He's less than a year younger than Rondo.  Yet, many fans seem to consider Rondo an "old/past his prime point guard."

I've never heard anyone criticize Rondo for being "past his prime."

So you think Rondo can return to being a top fifteen player in the league next season?

What I meant to say was out of all the criticisms I've heard being given to Rondo, being "past his prime" is not one that I've heard.

I mean Chris Paul is well regarded as the best PG in the league and he's only a year older than Rondo.

[Celtics18]

I like this idea but I think Indiana says no.

I know Hibbert has laid an egg this season headed into the playoffs, but fact remains he's still a young, legit 7 footer who can play a big role in leading a team to victory.

Don't think Larry deals him to another Eastern Conference team for Rondo.

I could however see Hibbert being involved in a deal for Indy to get a more consistent PF/C in return like Kevin Love, Demarcus Cousins or maybe even Asik.

He's less than a year younger than Rondo.  Yet, many fans seem to consider Rondo an "old/past his prime point guard."

I've never heard anyone criticize Rondo for being "past his prime."

So you think Rondo can return to being a top fifteen player in the league next season?

What I meant to say was out of all the criticisms I've heard being given to Rondo, being "past his prime" is not one that I've heard.

I mean Chris Paul is well regarded as the best PG in the league and he's only a year older than Rondo.

Well, I've read that claim.  I'm glad you don't share that opinion. 

[slamtheking]

I prefer this Rondo trade:

Rondo to OKC, future protected first round pick and Jeff Green to Houston
Westbrook and Perk to Boston
Asik to OKC.

-We get to upgrade Rondo into a legit 1st option scorer who also is younger; Perk won't help us win many games, but at least we can play Sully and KO at the 4 more often which helps their development, and he's expiring.
-OKC plugs their one weak position (Perk is one of the league's worst starting centers) and gets a better complementary PG for KD.
Houston gets to turn their disgruntled, free-agency-bound center into a good sixth man and a 1st round pick.

horrible, just horrible.

Rondo for Westbrook is debatable enough.  add in that you want to give away a 1st rounder AND Jeff Green for Perk?  horrible.

I love Perk but he's absolutely toast at this point.  we could pick up any vet min big man if the goal is to just have a center to play and keep from playing Sully there.  would cost a lot less and be about as productive

[pearljammer10]

Regardless of how poor Hibbert has played for Indy as of late he is still a huge part of their system. I don't think they trade Hibbert unless they are getting (or sign) a defensive minded center to replace him. He doesn't have to be the same caliber as Hibbert but I don't think they trade him without a plan.

If Indy could use the MLE on a guy like Okafor then I could see them making a Rondo for Hibbert trade with other pieces involved.

However, I'm not sure the Celtics trade for a guy like Hibbert or Asik without Rondo on the floor.

[pearljammer10]

I prefer this Rondo trade:

Rondo to OKC, future protected first round pick and Jeff Green to Houston
Westbrook and Perk to Boston
Asik to OKC.

-We get to upgrade Rondo into a legit 1st option scorer who also is younger; Perk won't help us win many games, but at least we can play Sully and KO at the 4 more often which helps their development, and he's expiring.
-OKC plugs their one weak position (Perk is one of the league's worst starting centers) and gets a better complementary PG for KD.
Houston gets to turn their disgruntled, free-agency-bound center into a good sixth man and a 1st round pick.

horrible, just horrible.

Rondo for Westbrook is debatable enough.  add in that you want to give away a 1st rounder AND Jeff Green for Perk?  horrible.

I love Perk but he's absolutely toast at this point.  we could pick up any vet min big man if the goal is to just have a center to play and keep from playing Sully there.  would cost a lot less and be about as productive

Regardless of if I would do the trade or not...It is amazing to me how underrated Perkins still is to so many people.

Hearing the commentators praise of Perk this past weekend was refreshing and greatly deserved. If Perk was "toast" the Thunder would have amnestied him a long time ago. But even their coach praises what Perkins does for that team on the court but more importantly off it. He might not be even a double double guy anymore, his mobility might be limited, but he still plays an intimidating force down low and blocks easy lanes to the basket that players would otherwise easily go down.

You think twice about driving to the lane when you see a guy like Perk waiting there to pound you.

[CoachBo]

I prefer this Rondo trade:

Rondo to OKC, future protected first round pick and Jeff Green to Houston
Westbrook and Perk to Boston
Asik to OKC.

-We get to upgrade Rondo into a legit 1st option scorer who also is younger; Perk won't help us win many games, but at least we can play Sully and KO at the 4 more often which helps their development, and he's expiring.
-OKC plugs their one weak position (Perk is one of the league's worst starting centers) and gets a better complementary PG for KD.
Houston gets to turn their disgruntled, free-agency-bound center into a good sixth man and a 1st round pick.

horrible, just horrible.

Rondo for Westbrook is debatable enough.  add in that you want to give away a 1st rounder AND Jeff Green for Perk?  horrible.

I love Perk but he's absolutely toast at this point.  we could pick up any vet min big man if the goal is to just have a center to play and keep from playing Sully there.  would cost a lot less and be about as productive

Look at the bright side - with Rondo gone, this board would still have someone's skills to conflate beyond all basketball reason.

I guess people just need a binky, kind of like Linus in the old Peanuts comic strip.

See above.

 

[slamtheking]

I prefer this Rondo trade:

Rondo to OKC, future protected first round pick and Jeff Green to Houston
Westbrook and Perk to Boston
Asik to OKC.

-We get to upgrade Rondo into a legit 1st option scorer who also is younger; Perk won't help us win many games, but at least we can play Sully and KO at the 4 more often which helps their development, and he's expiring.
-OKC plugs their one weak position (Perk is one of the league's worst starting centers) and gets a better complementary PG for KD.
Houston gets to turn their disgruntled, free-agency-bound center into a good sixth man and a 1st round pick.

horrible, just horrible.

Rondo for Westbrook is debatable enough.  add in that you want to give away a 1st rounder AND Jeff Green for Perk?  horrible.

I love Perk but he's absolutely toast at this point.  we could pick up any vet min big man if the goal is to just have a center to play and keep from playing Sully there.  would cost a lot less and be about as productive

Regardless of if I would do the trade or not...It is amazing to me how underrated Perkins still is to so many people.

Hearing the commentators praise of Perk this past weekend was refreshing and greatly deserved. If Perk was "toast" the Thunder would have amnestied him a long time ago. But even their coach praises what Perkins does for that team on the court but more importantly off it. He might not be even a double double guy anymore, his mobility might be limited, but he still plays an intimidating force down low and blocks easy lanes to the basket that players would otherwise easily go down.

You think twice about driving to the lane when you see a guy like Perk waiting there to pound you.

getting Perk as a vet min deal would be one thing.  getting him in exchange for Green and a 1st is beyond foolish.

[Celtics18]

I prefer this Rondo trade:

Rondo to OKC, future protected first round pick and Jeff Green to Houston
Westbrook and Perk to Boston
Asik to OKC.

-We get to upgrade Rondo into a legit 1st option scorer who also is younger; Perk won't help us win many games, but at least we can play Sully and KO at the 4 more often which helps their development, and he's expiring.
-OKC plugs their one weak position (Perk is one of the league's worst starting centers) and gets a better complementary PG for KD.
Houston gets to turn their disgruntled, free-agency-bound center into a good sixth man and a 1st round pick.

horrible, just horrible.

Rondo for Westbrook is debatable enough.  add in that you want to give away a 1st rounder AND Jeff Green for Perk?  horrible.

I love Perk but he's absolutely toast at this point.  we could pick up any vet min big man if the goal is to just have a center to play and keep from playing Sully there.  would cost a lot less and be about as productive

Look at the bright side - with Rondo gone, this board would still have someone's skills to conflate beyond all basketball reason.

I guess people just need a binky, kind of like Linus in the old Peanuts comic strip.

See above.

 

Could you point to some specific examples of posters on this board "conflating" Rondo's basketball skills beyond all basketball reason?

[gpap]

I prefer this Rondo trade:

Rondo to OKC, future protected first round pick and Jeff Green to Houston
Westbrook and Perk to Boston
Asik to OKC.

-We get to upgrade Rondo into a legit 1st option scorer who also is younger; Perk won't help us win many games, but at least we can play Sully and KO at the 4 more often which helps their development, and he's expiring.
-OKC plugs their one weak position (Perk is one of the league's worst starting centers) and gets a better complementary PG for KD.
Houston gets to turn their disgruntled, free-agency-bound center into a good sixth man and a 1st round pick.

I actually really like this idea.

[gpap]

I prefer this Rondo trade:

Rondo to OKC, future protected first round pick and Jeff Green to Houston
Westbrook and Perk to Boston
Asik to OKC.

-We get to upgrade Rondo into a legit 1st option scorer who also is younger; Perk won't help us win many games, but at least we can play Sully and KO at the 4 more often which helps their development, and he's expiring.
-OKC plugs their one weak position (Perk is one of the league's worst starting centers) and gets a better complementary PG for KD.
Houston gets to turn their disgruntled, free-agency-bound center into a good sixth man and a 1st round pick.

horrible, just horrible.

Rondo for Westbrook is debatable enough.  add in that you want to give away a 1st rounder AND Jeff Green for Perk?  horrible.

I love Perk but he's absolutely toast at this point.  we could pick up any vet min big man if the goal is to just have a center to play and keep from playing Sully there.  would cost a lot less and be about as productive

Regardless of if I would do the trade or not...It is amazing to me how underrated Perkins still is to so many people.

Hearing the commentators praise of Perk this past weekend was refreshing and greatly deserved. If Perk was "toast" the Thunder would have amnestied him a long time ago. But even their coach praises what Perkins does for that team on the court but more importantly off it. He might not be even a double double guy anymore, his mobility might be limited, but he still plays an intimidating force down low and blocks easy lanes to the basket that players would otherwise easily go down.

You think twice about driving to the lane when you see a guy like Perk waiting there to pound you.

getting Perk as a vet min deal would be one thing.  getting him in exchange for Green and a 1st is beyond foolish.

Not really. It's pretty much the opposite of what OKC did in the Perk/Green trade back in 2011, isn't it?

[CoachBo]

I prefer this Rondo trade:

Rondo to OKC, future protected first round pick and Jeff Green to Houston
Westbrook and Perk to Boston
Asik to OKC.

-We get to upgrade Rondo into a legit 1st option scorer who also is younger; Perk won't help us win many games, but at least we can play Sully and KO at the 4 more often which helps their development, and he's expiring.
-OKC plugs their one weak position (Perk is one of the league's worst starting centers) and gets a better complementary PG for KD.
Houston gets to turn their disgruntled, free-agency-bound center into a good sixth man and a 1st round pick.

horrible, just horrible.

Rondo for Westbrook is debatable enough.  add in that you want to give away a 1st rounder AND Jeff Green for Perk?  horrible.

I love Perk but he's absolutely toast at this point.  we could pick up any vet min big man if the goal is to just have a center to play and keep from playing Sully there.  would cost a lot less and be about as productive

Look at the bright side - with Rondo gone, this board would still have someone's skills to conflate beyond all basketball reason.

I guess people just need a binky, kind of like Linus in the old Peanuts comic strip.

See above.

 

Could you point to some specific examples of posters on this board "conflating" Rondo's basketball skills beyond all basketball reason?

 

You can't be serious.

Plus, I don't think the moderators like individual posters being targeted.

[Celtics18]

I prefer this Rondo trade:

Rondo to OKC, future protected first round pick and Jeff Green to Houston
Westbrook and Perk to Boston
Asik to OKC.

-We get to upgrade Rondo into a legit 1st option scorer who also is younger; Perk won't help us win many games, but at least we can play Sully and KO at the 4 more often which helps their development, and he's expiring.
-OKC plugs their one weak position (Perk is one of the league's worst starting centers) and gets a better complementary PG for KD.
Houston gets to turn their disgruntled, free-agency-bound center into a good sixth man and a 1st round pick.

horrible, just horrible.

Rondo for Westbrook is debatable enough.  add in that you want to give away a 1st rounder AND Jeff Green for Perk?  horrible.

I love Perk but he's absolutely toast at this point.  we could pick up any vet min big man if the goal is to just have a center to play and keep from playing Sully there.  would cost a lot less and be about as productive

Look at the bright side - with Rondo gone, this board would still have someone's skills to conflate beyond all basketball reason.

I guess people just need a binky, kind of like Linus in the old Peanuts comic strip.

See above.

 

Could you point to some specific examples of posters on this board "conflating" Rondo's basketball skills beyond all basketball reason?

 

You can't be serious.

Plus, I don't think the moderators like individual posters being targeted.

So, "no."  Thanks for the response, Coach. 

[Eddie20]

I like this idea but I think Indiana says no.

I know Hibbert has laid an egg this season headed into the playoffs, but fact remains he's still a young, legit 7 footer who can play a big role in leading a team to victory.

Don't think Larry deals him to another Eastern Conference team for Rondo.

I could however see Hibbert being involved in a deal for Indy to get a more consistent PF/C in return like Kevin Love, Demarcus Cousins or maybe even Asik.

He's less than a year younger than Rondo.  Yet, many fans seem to consider Rondo an "old/past his prime point guard."

I've never heard anyone criticize Rondo for being "past his prime."

So you think Rondo can return to being a top fifteen player in the league next season?

Return?

To answer the thread title, I would say 2 members of this board would say no and I confidently say that without even knowing the details of the trade.

[CoachBo]

I prefer this Rondo trade:

Rondo to OKC, future protected first round pick and Jeff Green to Houston
Westbrook and Perk to Boston
Asik to OKC.

-We get to upgrade Rondo into a legit 1st option scorer who also is younger; Perk won't help us win many games, but at least we can play Sully and KO at the 4 more often which helps their development, and he's expiring.
-OKC plugs their one weak position (Perk is one of the league's worst starting centers) and gets a better complementary PG for KD.
Houston gets to turn their disgruntled, free-agency-bound center into a good sixth man and a 1st round pick.

horrible, just horrible.

Rondo for Westbrook is debatable enough.  add in that you want to give away a 1st rounder AND Jeff Green for Perk?  horrible.

I love Perk but he's absolutely toast at this point.  we could pick up any vet min big man if the goal is to just have a center to play and keep from playing Sully there.  would cost a lot less and be about as productive

Look at the bright side - with Rondo gone, this board would still have someone's skills to conflate beyond all basketball reason.

I guess people just need a binky, kind of like Linus in the old Peanuts comic strip.

See above.

 

Could you point to some specific examples of posters on this board "conflating" Rondo's basketball skills beyond all basketball reason?

 

You can't be serious.

Plus, I don't think the moderators like individual posters being targeted.

So, "no."  Thanks for the response, Coach.

You are indeed hilarious. I ran through the handles in my head briefly and came up with two dozen.

And that took a couple of minutes, tops.

I'll have to give it some more thought to come up with a comprehensive list. Although it's easier to come up with a list of the realists, actually. And shorter.

[Celtics18]

I like this idea but I think Indiana says no.

I know Hibbert has laid an egg this season headed into the playoffs, but fact remains he's still a young, legit 7 footer who can play a big role in leading a team to victory.

Don't think Larry deals him to another Eastern Conference team for Rondo.

I could however see Hibbert being involved in a deal for Indy to get a more consistent PF/C in return like Kevin Love, Demarcus Cousins or maybe even Asik.

He's less than a year younger than Rondo.  Yet, many fans seem to consider Rondo an "old/past his prime point guard."

I've never heard anyone criticize Rondo for being "past his prime."

So you think Rondo can return to being a top fifteen player in the league next season?

Return?

To answer the thread title, I would say 2 members of this board would say no and I confidently say that without even knowing the details of the trade.

Yes, return.  Would you dispute that Rondo was widely considered to be a top fifteen player in the NBA for the 2012 season?