Yet Another HOU/BOS idea - Sullinger/Green for Parsons/Asik

[LooseCannon]

I'd ask for Houston to throw in a first and maybe Terrence Jones or D-Mo.  I could see adding Bass and Lin to the deal, in which case I would insist upon the first-round pick as compensation for the added payroll.

Houston gets an upgrade on perimeter defense and a PF they might be more comfortable with.  The Celtics get Bird rights to two players who will be free agents in 2015 with cap holds that are small enough to permit the team to have a chance at clearing space to sign a quality free agent then re-signing everyone.  The Celtics get the best player in the deal in Asik.

Most trade ideas here seem to be hoping some other team will accept a pupu platter of players you don't want.  I believe in embracing the idea that you have to give up something good to get something good.

[PhoSita]

I'm not interested in giving up Sullinger for the chance to retain Parsons / Asik and unloading Jeff Green on somebody else.

I think I'd rather just target Asik alone and wait until we've got a true #1 scorer to worry about adding a decent complement like Parsons.

[SHAQATTACK]

No

[jambr380]

I understand where you are coming from in such a deal - we are trading out Sully for a starting center in Asik and hoping Parsons can be the player we all wanted Green to be (although I have been satisfied enough with Green).

In this scenario, Olynyk and Bass split time at PF and we have a better balanced line-up overall; however, if we can just acquire Asik with the TPE, I would rather do that. Green and [especially] Sullinger have value. Is Parsons worth that value? Very possibly, but it might be worth trying to shore up other holes in our line-up (like at SG) than trading either/both of them for similar players.

The one thing I do appreciate about your threat is that you didn't have Rondo going out in the deal, so thank you for that.

[Geo123]

I understand where you are coming from in such a deal - we are trading out Sully for a starting center in Asik and hoping Parsons can be the player we all wanted Green to be (although I have been satisfied enough with Green).

In this scenario, Olynyk and Bass split time at PF and we have a better balanced line-up overall; however, if we can just acquire Asik with the TPE, I would rather do that. Green and [especially] Sullinger have value. Is Parsons worth that value? Very possibly, but it might be worth trying to shore up other holes in our line-up (like at SG) than trading either/both of them for similar players.

The one thing I do appreciate about your threat is that you didn't have Rondo going out in the deal, so thank you for that.

There is no way you get Asik for the TPE.  The Rockets need another big time player in their minds and Asik is an asset used to help acquire that guy.  They won't be looking for a salary dump.   

[jambr380]

I understand where you are coming from in such a deal - we are trading out Sully for a starting center in Asik and hoping Parsons can be the player we all wanted Green to be (although I have been satisfied enough with Green).

In this scenario, Olynyk and Bass split time at PF and we have a better balanced line-up overall; however, if we can just acquire Asik with the TPE, I would rather do that. Green and [especially] Sullinger have value. Is Parsons worth that value? Very possibly, but it might be worth trying to shore up other holes in our line-up (like at SG) than trading either/both of them for similar players.

The one thing I do appreciate about your threat is that you didn't have Rondo going out in the deal, so thank you for that.

There is no way you get Asik for the TPE.  The Rockets need another big time player in their minds and Asik is an asset used to help acquire that guy.  They won't be looking for a salary dump.   

I just don't believe the market for Asik is that huge. His $8.2 million expiring salary looks good from the surface, but how many owners are willing to give up assets and take on the $15 million that is his actual salary. They tried at the trade deadline and had no takers, why would things be any different over the summer? I don't see anything other than a late first going their way. I even think one of the 2015 Philly 2nds might do it, though I don't know that you can trade on speculation that a team won't make the playoffs (and I don't want to trade a mid-teens first if they do).

[Quetzalcoatl]

I think there is a decent chance that nobody offers much for Asik and we can swoop in.  We might as well be patient and hope we can get him without giving up any 1sts.  He would help us compete, but if we have to give up too much to get him, then it's not worth it.

[gpap]

I am curious to see what happens with Indiana and whether we can pry Hibbert from them?

McHale already did Ainge a favor, now it's Bird's turn

Could you see ever a deal like this taking place?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=prlzvkk

[LooseCannon]

In this scenario, Olynyk and Bass split time at PF and we have a better balanced line-up overall; however, if we can just acquire Asik with the TPE, I would rather do that. Green and [especially] Sullinger have value. Is Parsons worth that value? Very possibly, but it might be worth trying to shore up other holes in our line-up (like at SG) than trading either/both of them for similar players.

Ideally, I'd be trying to get a first round pick out of Houston, as well as either Terrance Jones or Donatas Motiejunas.  How would you feel about possibly getting a first vs. giving up at least one to use the TPE.

I'm actually quite happy with Bradley and my first choice would be to bring him back with the expectation that his offense will continue to improve.

[LooseCannon]

I think there is a decent chance that nobody offers much for Asik and we can swoop in.  We might as well be patient and hope we can get him without giving up any 1sts.  He would help us compete, but if we have to give up too much to get him, then it's not worth it.

I think Morey will just keep Asik if he doesn't get a certain level of return in a trade.  If you want Asik, waiting for the asking price to drop below a certain point would be a mistake.

[Irish Stew]

I think a trade like this makes sense for us if a power forward like Vonleh or Randle is the logical choice when we pick. If we are slotted to get a pure center like Embiid or wing players like Wiggins, Parker, or Exum, it makes little sense.

[Celtics18]

I like this trade.

[gpap]

I like it too.

[pearljammer10]

I understand where you are coming from in such a deal - we are trading out Sully for a starting center in Asik and hoping Parsons can be the player we all wanted Green to be (although I have been satisfied enough with Green).

In this scenario, Olynyk and Bass split time at PF and we have a better balanced line-up overall; however, if we can just acquire Asik with the TPE, I would rather do that. Green and [especially] Sullinger have value. Is Parsons worth that value? Very possibly, but it might be worth trying to shore up other holes in our line-up (like at SG) than trading either/both of them for similar players.

The one thing I do appreciate about your threat is that you didn't have Rondo going out in the deal, so thank you for that.

There is no way you get Asik for the TPE.  The Rockets need another big time player in their minds and Asik is an asset used to help acquire that guy.  They won't be looking for a salary dump.   

Thats exactly what they are looking for and exactly what they would be able to obtain by dumping Asik (and Lin) in a salary dump. Being able to unload their contracts will then allow them to go after and potentially obtain Carmelo, who would be the big time player you speak of.

[LarBrd33]

Some people think KO is better than Sully.  Some people think Sully's ceiling is limited.  If those people are right, this trade would be a win.  Parsons is better than Green.  Asik is probably more impactful than Sully.  You'd have Parsons at SF, KO at PF and Asik at C... Although our draft pick will likely be a PF too, so that would complicate things.  But maybe we draft someone who can play SG and have a nice little starting lineup.