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Offline MSceltic

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I think we all realize we need to upgrade at scoring and rim protection right?

So what young players can help that? To me it goes 3 SG and 3 C's I would love to see danny shake the tree for. In order
SG
1. Klay Thompson
2. Lance Stephenson
3. Gordan Hayward

C
1. Greg Monroe
2. Larry Sanders
3. Omer asik

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Huge pipe dream but..

I would love for us to go after Bradley Beal, and then Omer Asik.

I defended Sanders many times, and I think hes the best Center in terms of high upside, but unfortunately hes also a high risk due to his contract.

If we're talking mainly a solid defensive Center that can rebound, Asik is your guy.

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Of the list above, I would love to go after Thompson or Stephenson. Stephenson would worry me a little, but hes been solid in the playoffs.

As for Center, Asik of course. Monroe is going to ask for 10-12+ million, and he isn't a great defender at the 5 slot.
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In terms of value, if we can get Asik by simply using our trade exception, I don't see how we don't do it. I don't love the guy, but he is a monster on the boards and he is almost always in the right position, defensively.

I also like Thompson and Beal. I want to like Stephenson, but if we are taking on a bonehead, I want him to have all-star potential and I just think he is going to fall short of that. A guy I would love to get is DeRozan.

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I think we all realize we need to upgrade at scoring and rim protection right?

So what young players can help that? To me it goes 3 SG and 3 C's I would love to see danny shake the tree for. In order
SG
1. Klay Thompson
2. Lance Stephenson
3. Gordan Hayward

C
1. Greg Monroe
2. Larry Sanders
3. Omer asik

In terms of SG I don't think either the Warriors or Jazz would allow either #Thompson or Hayward  to leave.  I personally don't want Stephenson, he's too much of a head case.  I also think  that position can determine this also.  Wiggins could play some SG as well as either Smart or Exum.  If not any of them there will be a couple of options at our second pick...

In terms of bigs I think all 3 are available.  The big question is who we draft.  If we can get Embiid then we don't go after any of the C's.  Then we can use assets for either Love or maybe Harrison Barnes (who will be more available than Thompson.  If not then I think Sanders would cost the leat in terms of assets to get with Asik being next and then Monroe.  I really like Monroe.  Also, I think there's an outside chance that Hibbert is made available.

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In terms of value, if we can get Asik by simply using our trade exception, I don't see how we don't do it. I don't love the guy, but he is a monster on the boards and he is almost always in the right position, defensively.

I also like Thompson and Beal. I want to like Stephenson, but if we are taking on a bonehead, I want him to have all-star potential and I just think he is going to fall short of that. A guy I would love to get is DeRozan.

That's the caveat with him. The main thing that you have to think about Stephenson is...

Is he playing so well, due to the contract hes looking for, and the high usage of the ball control he has been exhibiting? Or is he playing so well, because hes overall a great player of Allstar caliber?

I'm a huge advocate of Waiters.

So I would like us to try to pry him away. I like Bradley, but he doesn't seem like he will be in the Celtics plans. If we can also go after Lamb, I wouldn't mind it either. Lamb looks like the type of player that just needs a new scenery.

He didn't even log any minutes in the last 3 games OKC vs Griz, which tells you either hes not meeting up to expectations, or Brooks is more content on having Thabo on the floor, and Lamb is in the dog house.
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Thompson and Asik is a start

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Among centers likely to be available, Asik is probably the one who would make the largest impact without costing the Celtics assets they don't want to give up at this point.

As for young SGs, I don't think there are any players out there I'd break my neck trying to acquire.  Eric Gordon could be an interesting gamble, although a very expensive one given his contract.
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Among centers likely to be available, Asik is probably the one who would make the largest impact without costing the Celtics assets they don't want to give up at this point.

As for young SGs, I don't think there are any players out there I'd break my neck trying to acquire.  Eric Gordon could be an interesting gamble, although a very expensive one given his contract.

Would you do Gerald Wallace and #17 for Eric Gordon?

I've seen fan bases split on this idea on other forums.
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Among centers likely to be available, Asik is probably the one who would make the largest impact without costing the Celtics assets they don't want to give up at this point.

As for young SGs, I don't think there are any players out there I'd break my neck trying to acquire.  Eric Gordon could be an interesting gamble, although a very expensive one given his contract.

Would you do Gerald Wallace and #17 for Eric Gordon?

I've seen fan bases split on this idea on other forums.

That would be worth considering.

All I can say is that the Celtics better feel really good about Gordon's knee.  He's missed so many games in his career that I don't think I could have that kind of confidence.

But he's a buy-low guy who might be a perennial 20+ point per game scorer in the right situation and if he can stay on the floor.
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I defended Sanders many times, and I think hes the best Center in terms of high upside, but unfortunately hes also a high risk due to his contract.

Its not Sanders contract that is the risk, its his head. If its screwed on right, the money is good value. If he acts like he did most of this year, the contract is an albatross.

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Among centers likely to be available, Asik is probably the one who would make the largest impact without costing the Celtics assets they don't want to give up at this point.

As for young SGs, I don't think there are any players out there I'd break my neck trying to acquire.  Eric Gordon could be an interesting gamble, although a very expensive one given his contract.

Would you do Gerald Wallace and #17 for Eric Gordon?

I've seen fan bases split on this idea on other forums.

I'm torn - my first instinct was yes, but the more I think about it I lean towards no. The more palatable deal (for the C's anyway) would be Wallace + LAC's 2015 1st + a future 2nd (maybe one Philly picks we're due soon).

As far as the OP, I think Asik will be in green next season. We desperately need a rim protector, and with Ron Adams on staff he's likely pushing towards an Asik deal. Monroe is nice, but you'd need a shotblocking/defensive-minded PF next to him to really get the most out of his ability to score. I've never been big on Sanders - seems like he's mostly flashy blocks and at $44m over 4 years, I think we could do better.
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I defended Sanders many times, and I think hes the best Center in terms of high upside, but unfortunately hes also a high risk due to his contract.

Its not Sanders contract that is the risk, its his head. If its screwed on right, the money is good value. If he acts like he did most of this year, the contract is an albatross.

I just think the issue also lies in also with the organization. They went from trying to be playoff bound with the acquisition of OJ Mayo to... the worst bottom feeder in the league.
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I defended Sanders many times, and I think hes the best Center in terms of high upside, but unfortunately hes also a high risk due to his contract.

Its not Sanders contract that is the risk, its his head. If its screwed on right, the money is good value. If he acts like he did most of this year, the contract is an albatross.

I just think the issue also lies in also with the organization. They went from trying to be playoff bound with the acquisition of OJ Mayo to... the worst bottom feeder in the league.

I agree.

I'm not nearly as scared off as some would be regarding Sanders.

It's the (potential) price tag that would concern me.
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I love all the guys listed but the only ones I see as possible are Omer Asik (if the Rockets are trying to clear salary for Melo) and Greg Monroe (they have a long jam in the front court and might be willing to make a sign and trade). I think Sanders doesn't even get a look due to his contract and off court issues. I think Klay Thompson and Hayward are not going to be allowed to leave town by their current teams.

If we can get one of Monroe or Asik and Wiggins/Parker (I think Green could play some 2 with Parker at the 3) then I think we are suddenly a very good team again.
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At SG:
Hayward is way overrated around here, and Utah will most likely pay him more than he is worth to retain him. Stephenson is a solid player, but he has a bad attitude, and I think he will also get a way bigger contract than he is worth this offseason.
I would love for Ainge to weasel his way into a Klay Thompson trade, but I don't see the Warriors letting him go any time soon....not for any less than a king's ransom anyways.

Considering the rather bare Free Agent crop at the SG position this yr, I'd prefer to just re-sign Bradley somewhere between 6 & 8 mill per yr. I would much rather have Bradley than Hayward, and he will probably come cheaper than Hayward too.

At Center: Of the 3 centers you mentioned, I would most like to pursue Sanders. Asik is not worth giving up the assets Morey will most likely ask for in return...especially when he is due that absurd $15mill contact this yr, and then can leave in Free Agency to the highest bidder next offseason.