But Vogel will take the fall

To continue your analogy, bringing in Turner and Bynum upset the pack.

The alpha dogs couldn't handle it.  Larry Legend should have known this.

To continue your analogy, bringing in Turner and Bynum upset the pack.

The alpha dogs couldn't handle it.  Larry Legend should have known this.

If bringing in two dudes that are strictly backups makes your two best players going into a tailspin, then you shouldn't be building around those two stars in the first place. 

Getting Lance Stephenson very late in the draft and developing him, getting Hibbert late in the draft and developing him, getting Paul George late in the draft and developing him...

Heck, he even intended on keeping the Plumlee he drafted.

In terms of talent evaluation, Larry Legend has been on point.

He even got Evan Turner for nothing.

But Lance Stephenson being such a Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline., and George/Hibbert going limp at the wrong time, this is out of the Legend's control.

Sometimes it's just plain dumb luck.

Imagine a reality machine repeating what Larry Bird has done as a GM, over and over. I'd say a lot more often than not his team would be successful. This would be an exceptional case.

When it rains, it pours.

But if the moves work out, Larry Legend is the bee's knees.

So if the moves don't work, you call a spade a spade.

He screwed up.

Still a good exec though.

Quote from: pokeKingCurtis on April 25, 2014, 07:59:30 AM

Getting Lance Stephenson very late in the draft and developing him, getting Hibbert late in the draft and developing him, getting Paul George late in the draft and developing him...

Heck, he even intended on keeping the Plumlee he drafted.

In terms of talent evaluation, Larry Legend has been on point.

He even got Evan Turner for nothing.

But Lance Stephenson being such a ****, and George/Hibbert going limp at the wrong time, this is out of the Legend's control.

Sometimes it's just plain dumb luck.

Imagine a reality machine repeating what Larry Bird has done as a GM, over and over. I'd say a lot more often than not his team would be successful. This would be an exceptional case.

When it rains, it pours.

Yeah, Larry did a great job assembling this roster in the first place.  His tenure has been a lot more good than bad. 

His in-season moves this year have turned out to be poor ones, though.  Adding Bynum, Turner and Allen for nothing but cash, second rounders and the hobbled Granger is a good move on paper.  However, chemistry is a delicate thing, and replacing Granger in the locker room with Bynum and Turner messed things up.

Was it Turner sleeping with someone's wife? Or Bynum? Someone slept with someone's wife apparently.

I have a feeling it's Lance Stephenson from what I've heard.

Honestly you're probably right. That was probably the lynchpin. I believe Hibbert said he missed Granger. Stephenson would probably have kept his pants on without the trade.

And no sarcasm intended. For us, this year, trading J-Craw and C-Lee killed the team imo. The Perk trade probably hurt morale in the same way.

Quote from: pokeKingCurtis on April 25, 2014, 08:11:17 AM

Quote from: Roy H. on April 25, 2014, 08:04:13 AM

Quote from: pokeKingCurtis on April 25, 2014, 07:59:30 AM

Getting Lance Stephenson very late in the draft and developing him, getting Hibbert late in the draft and developing him, getting Paul George late in the draft and developing him...

Heck, he even intended on keeping the Plumlee he drafted.

In terms of talent evaluation, Larry Legend has been on point.

He even got Evan Turner for nothing.

But Lance Stephenson being such a ****, and George/Hibbert going limp at the wrong time, this is out of the Legend's control.

Sometimes it's just plain dumb luck.

Imagine a reality machine repeating what Larry Bird has done as a GM, over and over. I'd say a lot more often than not his team would be successful. This would be an exceptional case.

When it rains, it pours.

Yeah, Larry did a great job assembling this roster in the first place.  His tenure has been a lot more good than bad. 

His in-season moves this year have turned out to be poor ones, though.  Adding Bynum, Turner and Allen for nothing but cash, second rounders and the hobbled Granger is a good move on paper.  However, chemistry is a delicate thing, and replacing Granger in the locker room with Bynum and Turner messed things up.

Was it Turner sleeping with someone's wife? Or Bynum? Someone slept with someone's wife apparently.

I have a feeling it's Lance Stephenson from what I've heard.

Honestly you're probably right. That was probably the lynchpin. I believe Hibbert said he missed Granger. Stephenson would probably have kept his pants on without the trade.

And no sarcasm intended. For us, this year, trading J-Craw and C-Lee killed the team imo. The Perk trade probably hurt morale in the same way.

that rumor has been pretty much confirmed as NOT true.  Salty ex just spreading rumors to embarrass as revenge.  You know what they say about a woman scorned.

I was going to say the same. Strong rumour when Bynum got the sack from Cavs regarding sleeping with an asst. coaches wife.

The other story was Bynum heaving shots up every time he touched the ball in practice. Even if he was 80 feet from the basket. I believe this one to be true.