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Re: Will the Celtics be tanking in 2015?
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2014, 12:32:12 PM »

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We will be improved.  Probably 35 wins. We miss the playoffs.  Rondo flees.  Tank again in 2016.

In 2017, maybe vonleh is ready to contribute.  38 wins.

Re: Will the Celtics be tanking in 2015?
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2014, 12:35:51 PM »

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Well, we're probably going to stink in 2015, and probably beyond that.

Always the optimist Roy:-))

Well, a lost season will do that to you.  Going from rooting for KG and the Captain to rooting for ping pong balls isn't a lot of fun.


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Re: Will the Celtics be tanking in 2015?
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2014, 12:46:29 PM »

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Well, we're probably going to stink in 2015, and probably beyond that.

Always the optimist Roy:-))

Well, a lost season will do that to you.  Going from rooting for KG and the Captain to rooting for ping pong balls isn't a lot of fun.

I disagree. I've been rooting for the Celtics to lose all season long. I will be rooting for the same next year as well. What were the Celtics going to realistically do with KG and Pierce this year? Maybe finish .500 and get bounced in the first round? In all actuality if the Celtics wanted to contend sooner they should have hid the whole Jordan and Bledsoe for KG deal a little bit better. Meaning of course they deal KG and have Doc wait a few weeks in order to join him. All that being said the deal with the Nets was amazing. That is the extent of what Danny Ainge has done right in the past 6 years. Should have went all in on blowing it up now the Celtics will be stuck picking 6-10 in a 4 superstar deep draft. Ainge should be shown the door.

Re: Will the Celtics be tanking in 2015?
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2014, 12:59:23 PM »

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No chance.  They had a free pass this season due to the way the season ticket process works.  Most of this season's tickets were sold (renewed) last season.  That will change this offseason and there will be pressure to get people to the arena.

Re: Will the Celtics be tanking in 2015?
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2014, 01:18:36 PM »

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Well, we're probably going to stink in 2015, and probably beyond that.

Always the optimist Roy:-))

Well, a lost season will do that to you.  Going from rooting for KG and the Captain to rooting for ping pong balls isn't a lot of fun.

I disagree. I've been rooting for the Celtics to lose all season long. I will be rooting for the same next year as well. What were the Celtics going to realistically do with KG and Pierce this year? Maybe finish .500 and get bounced in the first round? In all actuality if the Celtics wanted to contend sooner they should have hid the whole Jordan and Bledsoe for KG deal a little bit better. Meaning of course they deal KG and have Doc wait a few weeks in order to join him. All that being said the deal with the Nets was amazing. That is the extent of what Danny Ainge has done right in the past 6 years. Should have went all in on blowing it up now the Celtics will be stuck picking 6-10 in a 4 superstar deep draft. Ainge should be shown the door.

Hey, if watching your team lose for years is what does it for you, I wish you all the best.

Similarly, if you want to replace Ainge with, say, M.L. Carr, I respect that. That guy really knew how to lose.


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Re: Will the Celtics be tanking in 2015?
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2014, 02:04:16 PM »

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No chance.  They had a free pass this season due to the way the season ticket process works.  Most of this season's tickets were sold (renewed) last season.  That will change this offseason and there will be pressure to get people to the arena.

Well said. No chance the "tanking" continues. If it does, next season you will see 100 people in the arena, max. Also, I will not watch and many others won't.

Re: Will the Celtics be tanking in 2015?
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2014, 02:18:33 PM »

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Well, we're probably going to stink in 2015, and probably beyond that.

Always the optimist Roy:-))

Well, a lost season will do that to you.  Going from rooting for KG and the Captain to rooting for ping pong balls isn't a lot of fun.

I disagree. I've been rooting for the Celtics to lose all season long. I will be rooting for the same next year as well. What were the Celtics going to realistically do with KG and Pierce this year? Maybe finish .500 and get bounced in the first round? In all actuality if the Celtics wanted to contend sooner they should have hid the whole Jordan and Bledsoe for KG deal a little bit better. Meaning of course they deal KG and have Doc wait a few weeks in order to join him. All that being said the deal with the Nets was amazing. That is the extent of what Danny Ainge has done right in the past 6 years. Should have went all in on blowing it up now the Celtics will be stuck picking 6-10 in a 4 superstar deep draft. Ainge should be shown the door.

I disagree with the part you mentioned that I bolded. They should've held onto Pierce/KG. The Nets are 4-0 vs Miami this year and the current state of the NBA is in the toilet.

Granted, if Brooklyn crashes in the playoffs, then I will obviously change my mind.

But right now, with how many teams are tanking, Danny Ainge picked the wrong year to "rebuild."

A couple good offseason pick-ups in addition to Pierce and KG, and no one knows for sure how good the Celts could've been.

Re: Will the Celtics be tanking in 2015?
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2014, 02:24:41 PM »

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No chance.  They had a free pass this season due to the way the season ticket process works.  Most of this season's tickets were sold (renewed) last season.  That will change this offseason and there will be pressure to get people to the arena.
this was a draft class worth tanking for

Re: Will the Celtics be tanking in 2015?
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2014, 02:27:07 PM »

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Well, we're probably going to stink in 2015, and probably beyond that.

Always the optimist Roy:-))

Well, a lost season will do that to you.  Going from rooting for KG and the Captain to rooting for ping pong balls isn't a lot of fun.

I disagree. I've been rooting for the Celtics to lose all season long. I will be rooting for the same next year as well. What were the Celtics going to realistically do with KG and Pierce this year? Maybe finish .500 and get bounced in the first round? In all actuality if the Celtics wanted to contend sooner they should have hid the whole Jordan and Bledsoe for KG deal a little bit better. Meaning of course they deal KG and have Doc wait a few weeks in order to join him. All that being said the deal with the Nets was amazing. That is the extent of what Danny Ainge has done right in the past 6 years. Should have went all in on blowing it up now the Celtics will be stuck picking 6-10 in a 4 superstar deep draft. Ainge should be shown the door.

I disagree with the part you mentioned that I bolded. They should've held onto Pierce/KG. The Nets are 4-0 vs Miami this year and the current state of the NBA is in the toilet.

Granted, if Brooklyn crashes in the playoffs, then I will obviously change my mind.

But right now, with how many teams are tanking, Danny Ainge picked the wrong year to "rebuild."

A couple good offseason pick-ups in addition to Pierce and KG, and no one knows for sure how good the Celts could've been.
Not good enough.  Bottoming out this season made sense.  I'm sure we'll change our mentality next season.  We'll try to make a splash.  I could see us trading our #7 pick for Josh Smith or something.  I could see us give a good solid effort and finish with 35 wins.

Re: Will the Celtics be tanking in 2015?
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2014, 02:28:51 PM »

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Well, we're probably going to stink in 2015, and probably beyond that.

Always the optimist Roy:-))

Well, a lost season will do that to you.  Going from rooting for KG and the Captain to rooting for ping pong balls isn't a lot of fun.

I disagree. I've been rooting for the Celtics to lose all season long. I will be rooting for the same next year as well. What were the Celtics going to realistically do with KG and Pierce this year? Maybe finish .500 and get bounced in the first round? In all actuality if the Celtics wanted to contend sooner they should have hid the whole Jordan and Bledsoe for KG deal a little bit better. Meaning of course they deal KG and have Doc wait a few weeks in order to join him. All that being said the deal with the Nets was amazing. That is the extent of what Danny Ainge has done right in the past 6 years. Should have went all in on blowing it up now the Celtics will be stuck picking 6-10 in a 4 superstar deep draft. Ainge should be shown the door.

I disagree with the part you mentioned that I bolded. They should've held onto Pierce/KG. The Nets are 4-0 vs Miami this year and the current state of the NBA is in the toilet.

Granted, if Brooklyn crashes in the playoffs, then I will obviously change my mind.

But right now, with how many teams are tanking, Danny Ainge picked the wrong year to "rebuild."

A couple good offseason pick-ups in addition to Pierce and KG, and no one knows for sure how good the Celts could've been.

Almost certainly not as good as the Nets are.
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Re: Will the Celtics be tanking in 2015?
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2014, 02:36:06 PM »

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Ugh, I guess I'll be the jerk rooting for the team to squeeze out as many wins as possible again next year.  I don't know if Danny can put together a title contender this summer.  It seems far-fetched, but not impossible.

I'd certainly rather see a 40 to 45 win low seed playoff team than another tank team, though. 
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Re: Will the Celtics be tanking in 2015?
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2014, 02:42:03 PM »

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No chance.  They had a free pass this season due to the way the season ticket process works.  Most of this season's tickets were sold (renewed) last season.  That will change this offseason and there will be pressure to get people to the arena.
this was a draft class worth tanking for

It is? Jury is still out on that one.

Forgive me if I feel a bit misinformed because everyone made this upcoming draft class to look like it was packed with "franchise players" and with the smoke now clearing, it might BARELY end up being better than last year's draft class.

Re: Will the Celtics be tanking in 2015?
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2014, 02:48:54 PM »

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No chance.  They had a free pass this season due to the way the season ticket process works.  Most of this season's tickets were sold (renewed) last season.  That will change this offseason and there will be pressure to get people to the arena.
this was a draft class worth tanking for

We'll be hearing the same thing next year, when the Okafor hype begins.  And then Than Maker is in the following class, right? 

Let's tank until 2020.  :)


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Re: Will the Celtics be tanking in 2015?
« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2014, 02:58:18 PM »

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Well, we're probably going to stink in 2015, and probably beyond that.

Always the optimist Roy:-))

Well, a lost season will do that to you.  Going from rooting for KG and the Captain to rooting for ping pong balls isn't a lot of fun.

I disagree. I've been rooting for the Celtics to lose all season long. I will be rooting for the same next year as well. What were the Celtics going to realistically do with KG and Pierce this year? Maybe finish .500 and get bounced in the first round? In all actuality if the Celtics wanted to contend sooner they should have hid the whole Jordan and Bledsoe for KG deal a little bit better. Meaning of course they deal KG and have Doc wait a few weeks in order to join him. All that being said the deal with the Nets was amazing. That is the extent of what Danny Ainge has done right in the past 6 years. Should have went all in on blowing it up now the Celtics will be stuck picking 6-10 in a 4 superstar deep draft. Ainge should be shown the door.

I disagree with the part you mentioned that I bolded. They should've held onto Pierce/KG. The Nets are 4-0 vs Miami this year and the current state of the NBA is in the toilet.

Granted, if Brooklyn crashes in the playoffs, then I will obviously change my mind.

But right now, with how many teams are tanking, Danny Ainge picked the wrong year to "rebuild."

A couple good offseason pick-ups in addition to Pierce and KG, and no one knows for sure how good the Celts could've been.

Almost certainly not as good as the Nets are.

  Yeah, imagine the team over the last couple of years with KG averaging 7/6 in 20 mpg. Not really a pretty sight.

Re: Will the Celtics be tanking in 2015?
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2014, 03:03:37 PM »

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No chance.  They had a free pass this season due to the way the season ticket process works.  Most of this season's tickets were sold (renewed) last season.  That will change this offseason and there will be pressure to get people to the arena.
this was a draft class worth tanking for

It is? Jury is still out on that one.

Forgive me if I feel a bit misinformed because everyone made this upcoming draft class to look like it was packed with "franchise players" and with the smoke now clearing, it might BARELY end up being better than last year's draft class.
Nah. 

This draft is legit.  Should nail a quality guy in the Top 8.  What made it special was how many quality guys were going to be on top.   It made sense to "bottom out"... you weren't just chasing 1 guy.  Now that the dust is settling, we're likely going to have a Top 8 pick and get an asset out of it.

Last year was a disaster of a draft. 

Heading forward, as Roy points out, there might be someone like Okafor who gets a lot of hype... but it doesn't make sense to tank in a 1 player draft.   This isn't a 1 player draft.