Glad the Pacers are Imploding

[pearljammer10]

I'm not, that's one less team Miami has to worry about if they really fall off the wagon.

[BigAlTheFuture]

Indy should avoid the top seed, I think Brooklyn and Toronto will both knock them off. They're better off getting the 2nd seed

[MISSERY]

Indy should avoid the top seed, I think Brooklyn and Toronto will both knock them off. They're better off getting the 2nd seed

they should not avoid the brooklyn, the raptors with interior defender amir johnson, rebounder valenciunas, patterson, and others can match up with them, also this wizard nene gortat booker gooded, i saw hibbert man handled kg, what if collins? to commit fouls? specially this plumlee he might help but again foul troubles are issue, if blatche just scores and don't rebound, i don't even know if he can score againts bynum or hibbert with pierce guarding david west
kg is best paired vs. david west, so blatche should either move pf or kg, again collins will not help to me, if he can at least defend 1on1, they will kill him via rebounds

[crimson_stallion]

In a way I'm glad too - I'm really not a fan of the Pacers as a team.  Especially after the way Boston got cheated out of David West.  Boston had him as good as signed before Bird and West teamed up to screw them.  That signing could have helped Boston a LOT in getting banner #18.

Can you blame Indiana for that?  Not really, if Boston got a chance to sly them out of a player they would do it too.  Still doesn't change how I feel about the team though, and I don't want to see them get a ring.

[Rondo9]

I'm not. I desperately want to see Indy knock off Miami this year.

Get it together Indiana!

What do you think is their problem?

[Celtics4ever]

I am not I wanted them to beat the HEAT.

[Vox_Populi]

I'm not. I desperately want to see Indy knock off Miami this year.

Get it together Indiana!

What do you think is their problem?

That's their problem, no one really knows what their problem is.

[pearljammer10]

I'm not. I desperately want to see Indy knock off Miami this year.

Get it together Indiana!

What do you think is their problem?

That's their problem, no one really knows what their problem is.

Trading Granger was their problem. It's a trade similar to the Perkins debacle. Its crazy how underappreciated these veteran mainstain ala Perk or Granger are to the chemistry of the team and to the locker room presence. Granger leaves and the "father" of the Pacers is no longer around. Guys start trying to take too much a load on themselves and become more selfish and there is no longer that mainstay influence in the locker room to whip them back to reality.

[satch]

Pacers need a good point guard like rondo on their team. What would you ask in return?

[Fafnir]

I'm not. I desperately want to see Indy knock off Miami this year.

Get it together Indiana!

What do you think is their problem?

That's their problem, no one really knows what their problem is.

Trading Granger was their problem. It's a trade similar to the Perkins debacle. Its crazy how underappreciated these veteran mainstain ala Perk or Granger are to the chemistry of the team and to the locker room presence. Granger leaves and the "father" of the Pacers is no longer around. Guys start trying to take too much a load on themselves and become more selfish and there is no longer that mainstay influence in the locker room to whip them back to reality.

Except they were playing like poop before they traded him.

Their decline was one of the reasons they traded him. Honestly losing Granger hasn't been the issue, its the fact that Turner has been truly terrible for them. If they just benched him I think it'd help.

[Vox_Populi]

I'm not. I desperately want to see Indy knock off Miami this year.

Get it together Indiana!

What do you think is their problem?

That's their problem, no one really knows what their problem is.

Trading Granger was their problem. It's a trade similar to the Perkins debacle. Its crazy how underappreciated these veteran mainstain ala Perk or Granger are to the chemistry of the team and to the locker room presence. Granger leaves and the "father" of the Pacers is no longer around. Guys start trying to take too much a load on themselves and become more selfish and there is no longer that mainstay influence in the locker room to whip them back to reality.

I didn't like the Granger trade, but I don't think it was the impetus for their struggles. As Fafnir pointed out, they'd already begun to have issues. I've watched almost all their games this season, and I confidently say I noticed a shift when they lost at Denver in January. They still won games after, but they never quite looked the same.

The only thing that's certain is that their offense is the real issue. If they can get it back to average, since it's never been good, they'll probably go back to comfortably winning games.

[pearljammer10]

I'm not. I desperately want to see Indy knock off Miami this year.

Get it together Indiana!

What do you think is their problem?

That's their problem, no one really knows what their problem is.

Trading Granger was their problem. It's a trade similar to the Perkins debacle. Its crazy how underappreciated these veteran mainstain ala Perk or Granger are to the chemistry of the team and to the locker room presence. Granger leaves and the "father" of the Pacers is no longer around. Guys start trying to take too much a load on themselves and become more selfish and there is no longer that mainstay influence in the locker room to whip them back to reality.

Except they were playing like poop before they traded him.

Their decline was one of the reasons they traded him. Honestly losing Granger hasn't been the issue, its the fact that Turner has been truly terrible for them. If they just benched him I think it'd help.

Yeah i've never liked Turner and always overrated by playing on a terrible team and putting up mediocre numbers.

[MISSERY]

i like the granger trade specially if stephenson don't resign i got turner as my substitute + lavoy allen given minutes, i think he is not a bad player

and a 7'2, if i where the pacers, i would play bynum since the day i signed him, i could even play both hibbert at center and bynum at pf, while david west rest

[D.o.s.]

I'm not. I desperately want to see Indy knock off Miami this year.

Get it together Indiana!

What do you think is their problem?

That's their problem, no one really knows what their problem is.

Trading Granger was their problem. It's a trade similar to the Perkins debacle. Its crazy how underappreciated these veteran mainstain ala Perk or Granger are to the chemistry of the team and to the locker room presence. Granger leaves and the "father" of the Pacers is no longer around. Guys start trying to take too much a load on themselves and become more selfish and there is no longer that mainstay influence in the locker room to whip them back to reality.

This is based on your intimate relationship with the Pacers lockerroom?

Or from reading too much Bill Simmons?

Perk was hardly the 'veteran mainstay' on that 2010 team. if Shaq/JO/Nenad give us 48 healthy minutes for the rest of the year, the trade is a a non-issue.

[MISSERY]

I'm not. I desperately want to see Indy knock off Miami this year.

Get it together Indiana!

What do you think is their problem?

That's their problem, no one really knows what their problem is.

Trading Granger was their problem. It's a trade similar to the Perkins debacle. Its crazy how underappreciated these veteran mainstain ala Perk or Granger are to the chemistry of the team and to the locker room presence. Granger leaves and the "father" of the Pacers is no longer around. Guys start trying to take too much a load on themselves and become more selfish and there is no longer that mainstay influence in the locker room to whip them back to reality.

This is based on your intimate relationship with the Pacers lockerroom?

Or from reading too much Bill Simmons?

Perk was hardly the 'veteran mainstay' on that 2010 team. if Shaq/JO/Nenad give us 48 healthy minutes for the rest of the year, the trade is a a non-issue.

the main key factor here is ADREW BYNUM AND ROY HIBBERT PROTECTING THE RIM, and the rebounding key players of d-west and stephenson
miami heat lebron's 40+ points and d-wade 30+ points and bosh rebounding ability
brooklyn's playmaker d-will and scorer of pierce johnson, and rebounding defender kg,

if brooklyn nets cannot protect the rim on lebron and d-wade and/or heat missing some shots, bigman of nets should work, but plumlee and kg are not enough
nets vs. pacers, without brook lopez, bynum and hibbert are both enough,