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Re: Lakers 1st and Steve Nash for Rondo
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2014, 01:43:48 PM »

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I could see DA being interested. It's the opposite of what he did for ray Allen. Any combo of the four of embiid, Parker, wiggins, and exum would be good to great. We'd be bad next year but it's better to be bad and let that young talent learn and develop. Plus next year is the okafor draft and other good players will be available.

Our future core could all very well be on rookie deals and in summer of 2015 it could gives us plenty of flexibility.

We have so many options that I just can't wait for end of June and beginning if July to get here.


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Re: Lakers 1st and Steve Nash for Rondo
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2014, 01:45:52 PM »

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I'd do it if the Laker pick was top 4, and if we had picks 1, 2 , 3 or 4.

I don't think that the Lakers hesitate for a second.

They're paying Kobe a huge amount of money. They want to contend now (his two year window). No draft pick, 1-4, will bring the help Kobe needs NOW. Rondo does.


Re: Lakers 1st and Steve Nash for Rondo
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2014, 01:46:49 PM »

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If it was a top 4 pick from the Lakers and they were still dumb enough to offer it, I'd jump at it.  Especially if the Celtics had a top 4 pick of their own.

Ending up with something like Parker & Exum along with Nash's expiring would be awfuly appealing.  Might as well blow it up and rebuild if that is on the table.

I agree in theory, but we'd have to be very careful about which guys we paired up.  There's a serious risk of an alpha dog issue in that kind of situation.  A power struggle between two young talents could force us to blow up the team yet again a year or two down the line.

Oh, definitely.  For example, I wouldn't do something like Smart/Parker. 

I think Embiid with anyone would go alright.

As crazy as it sounds, Wiggins/Parker might even work.

Not crazy.

Wiggins at SG and Parker at SF. Wiggins always guard the more athletic and talented wing.


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Re: Lakers 1st and Steve Nash for Rondo
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2014, 01:48:41 PM »

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Wiggins/ Parker   

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Re: Lakers 1st and Steve Nash for Rondo
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2014, 01:50:29 PM »

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I would not do it.  Rondo is going to be our biggest draw for free agents. I think Ainge is looking for the 2015 FA class or maybe even this years FA class, to make a splash.  With Rondo/Sully on the team, and whatever pick we get this year, we could be very attractive to player looking to grow with a contender.  Like David West 2 years ago.

Re: Lakers 1st and Steve Nash for Rondo
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2014, 01:58:07 PM »

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Problem with Rondo on a young team is he is inconsistent.  Unless it is a playoff game or nationally televised game he doesn't give his best effort, especially defensively.  We need a leader who is consistent throughout the year.  Rondo is tailor made for a playoff team looking to make it to the next rung..

Re: Lakers 1st and Steve Nash for Rondo
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2014, 02:17:05 PM »

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#5 plus a future first rounder would be fair

Just #5, not so much

I could get behind this trade. 

Re: Lakers 1st and Steve Nash for Rondo
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2014, 02:21:23 PM »

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couldn't this have just been posted in one of the other 50 threads with this exact trade idea?
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Re: Lakers 1st and Steve Nash for Rondo
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2014, 02:31:12 PM »

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couldn't this have just been posted in one of the other 50 threads with this exact trade idea?

Probably. But why break a time-honored tradition?
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Re: Lakers 1st and Steve Nash for Rondo
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2014, 02:36:37 PM »

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My Bad.

Didn't see the other thread..

Re: Lakers 1st and Steve Nash for Rondo
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2014, 03:30:19 PM »

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If it was a top 4 pick from the Lakers and they were still dumb enough to offer it, I'd jump at it.  Especially if the Celtics had a top 4 pick of their own.

Ending up with something like Parker & Exum along with Nash's expiring would be awfuly appealing.  Might as well blow it up and rebuild if that is on the table.

I agree in theory, but we'd have to be very careful about which guys we paired up.  There's a serious risk of an alpha dog issue in that kind of situation.  A power struggle between two young talents could force us to blow up the team yet again a year or two down the line.

Oh, definitely.  For example, I wouldn't do something like Smart/Parker. 

I think Embiid with anyone would go alright.

As crazy as it sounds, Wiggins/Parker might even work.

Whether or not it worked, that'd be about the best possible storyline to start the season with.  The arguments over who was better would make Rondo threads (including the inevitable "should we have traded him" ones) look like a friendly chat over tea.  Fully on board with that one.

Re: Lakers 1st and Steve Nash for Rondo
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2014, 03:35:21 PM »

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I would probably do it.

The chance of whoever we draft at that position becoming a star-level player is probably roughly equal to the chance of Rondo's presence drawing this second star-level player to Boston.

I think whoever we draft at that point on a rookie contract will be the more "valuable" overall asset than Rondo and his current/future contract.

Our cap sheet will look in fantastic shape once Wallace, Bass, Green come off with so many promising young players on team-friendly contracts and future draft picks compiled as well.

I'm beginning to feel numb to this losing and rebuilding, so my resistance to that isn't affecting me as much now as it was before.

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Re: Lakers 1st and Steve Nash for Rondo
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2014, 03:38:03 PM »

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I could see DA being interested. It's the opposite of what he did for ray Allen. Any combo of the four of embiid, Parker, wiggins, and exum would be good to great. We'd be bad next year but it's better to be bad and let that young talent learn and develop. Plus next year is the okafor draft and other good players will be available.

Our future core could all very well be on rookie deals and in summer of 2015 it could gives us plenty of flexibility.

We have so many options that I just can't wait for end of June and beginning if July to get here.

Agreed

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Re: Lakers 1st and Steve Nash for Rondo
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2014, 04:07:46 PM »

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Yeh, I think I'd do it...the only part I dint like is taking Nash, but I imagine his contract is probably finishing soon so in that case OK.

I think Exum will one day be e other as good as (or better than) Rondo, so if we can grab him plus add a serviceable big with the Lakers pick (Randle, Cauley-Stein, Vonley, etc) then that to me fills two needs while keeping the team very young and keeping our upside through the roof.

Just thinking about an Exum / Bradley / Green / Sully (or Olynyk) / Vonleh starting 5 (from an offense / defense/rebounding point of view) leaves me super excited!

Re: Lakers 1st and Steve Nash for Rondo
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2014, 08:22:55 PM »

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1. we'd have to hope beyond hope that whoever's available with the Lakers pick would be anywhere near as good as Rondo. 

I think this statement would be true if it weren't for Rondo's impending free agency.  A year from now, Rondo will enter free agency.  First of all, he'll want a max contract.  Second, he'll want to sign with a team that is ready to be highly competitive over the length of his contract, since his contract will encompass what remains of his prime.

Even assuming that Rondo is worth a max contract (debatable in my opinion), the Celtics may or may not be in a position to offer Rondo that kind of situation.

With that in mind, getting a really significant return value for Rondo this summer (a top 10 pick in this draft certainly counts) might be preferable to taking the risk that Rondo bolts in the summer of 2015 with the Celtics still looking to be a couple of years at least away from being ready to truly challenge the best teams in the league. 

From that perspective, it's not a deal-breaker that the player you're getting back in the deal isn't necessarily going to be better than Rondo is at his best.
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