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Offline Tr1boy

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We all know these three are not at the same level as durant or lebron. But also considered to have a higher upside than an anthony bennett.

Davis I would consider to be just below durant, lebrons level of talent. For now anyways. So are the 2014 top three at the same level or below talent ,upside as davis?

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two words,

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I don't think so. I would hope so if we end up with one of them. But gotta say, extremely jealous of the Pelicans. Davis is slowly becoming one of my favorite players to watch. Looking like he might be one in a generation type talent. He carried the Pelicans tonight against us. Right now, I would say Embiid/Wiggins/Parker might be less intriguing prospects than Davis, but that could change once they make it to the NBA. I'd put my money on Wiggins if I was a betting man.
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We won't know until they play in the nba. I would bet one of them can achieve davis "level", just have no idea which one.

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I am not sure if you mean current day Davis or Davis when he was in college, because 2 years ago I would say Davis was viewed as less of a prospect than Embiid, equal to Wiggins and above Parker because Davis' ceiling was always obviously very high.
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I am not sure if you mean current day Davis or Davis when he was in college, because 2 years ago I would say Davis was viewed as less of a prospect than Embiid, equal to Wiggins and above Parker because Davis' ceiling was always obviously very high.

Id say Parker, Wiggins, and Embiid are all comparable to Davis as a one and done prospect, but I'm skeptical any of them reach his current level within the first 3 years of their careers. The Brow has pretty much been a best-case scenario so far, injuries notwithstanding.

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I am not sure if you mean current day Davis or Davis when he was in college, because 2 years ago I would say Davis was viewed as less of a prospect than Embiid, equal to Wiggins and above Parker because Davis' ceiling was always obviously very high.

Think he means current day Davis. I thought AD was kinda overrated in college. His offensive game was pretty meh. I had no idea the kid had such a nice jumpshot. Never would have thought he would be this good so fast. Especially after his OK rookie season.
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I think Anthony Davis was viewed as a better prospect than all 3 of Parker/Wiggins/Embiid. Wiggins was the closest coming into this year because they're both athletically MVP caliber. But the big man is naturally more valuable.

He defensively was a complete monster in college and in high school showed great range and handle for his size his senior year. Kentucky played him in the paint nearly exclusively so his offensive game wasn't showcased.

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I am not sure if you mean current day Davis or Davis when he was in college, because 2 years ago I would say Davis was viewed as less of a prospect than Embiid, equal to Wiggins and above Parker because Davis' ceiling was always obviously very high.

Id say Parker, Wiggins, and Embiid are all comparable to Davis as a one and done prospect, but I'm skeptical any of them reach his current level within the first 3 years of their careers. The Brow has pretty much been a best-case scenario so far, injuries notwithstanding.

Yeah, I would agree they were all comparable. However, I do think Embiid is getting some crazy hype that exceeds what Davis got when he was coming out. What I was stating was my feeling for what the general consensus was on Davis and is for the current three, doesn't mean much until we see them in the league for a season or two though.
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I think Anthony Davis was viewed as a better prospect than all 3 of Parker/Wiggins/Embiid. Wiggins was the closest coming into this year because they're both athletically MVP caliber. But the big man is naturally more valuable.

He defensively was a complete monster in college and in high school showed great range and handle for his size his senior year. Kentucky played him in the paint nearly exclusively so his offensive game wasn't showcased.

I remember a lot of hype about his defensive impact but a lot of scouts questioning the impact he could have on the offensive end. I don't remember any predicting he could score in this many ways so soon.
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I thought Anthony Davis was a clear cut destined for superstardom player when he left college. He looked like he was going to take the KG, Tim Duncan mantle as a dominant 7 foot forward with the length of a center.

I think in 4 or 5 years he can dominate the nba. I would consider him to be on a path to being as valuable as Kevin durant.

Lebron has been on his own level for so long now. He is second to michael jordan as far as dominant players during the past 30 years.

And no one in this coming draft looks to be at the level of Anthony Davis. He had everything but the muscle when he entered the draft.

Wiggins, Parker and Embiid all still have a few significant holes in their games. Hopefully they work relentlessly hard and get to the super level. Well, unless they go to the Lakers.  :)

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How did Nerlens Noel compare to Davis?

is Noel a wildcard ROY candidate next season?

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Nope.   But it is still early, Davis lead his team to a title.

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We all know these three are not at the same level as durant or lebron. But also considered to have a higher upside than an anthony bennett.

Davis I would consider to be just below durant, lebrons level of talent. For now anyways. So are the 2014 top three at the same level or below talent ,upside as davis?

Anthony Davis is on the same level as LeBron + Durant. Future MVP.

Wiggins is too. Embiid is more raw than the others but I think he has that type of potential too. More risk with him than others though. Both have franchise player / MVP talent.

No way is Jabari Parker in the same league. All-Star talent. Not MVP talent.

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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2014, 06:00:38 AM »

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We all know these three are not at the same level as durant or lebron. But also considered to have a higher upside than an anthony bennett.

Davis I would consider to be just below durant, lebrons level of talent. For now anyways. So are the 2014 top three at the same level or below talent ,upside as davis?

Anthony Davis is on the same level as LeBron + Durant. Future MVP.

Wiggins is too. Embiid is more raw than the others but I think he has that type of potential too. More risk with him than others though. Both have franchise player / MVP talent.

No way is Jabari Parker in the same league. All-Star talent. Not MVP talent.
Agreed. Parker is like Melo in that respect. Not one of the top 3 players in the league but still super player