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We'll need to sort out or PF logjam, since all 4 deserve minutes, but really there's only room for 2.  Contracts and money aside, pick your two favs to keep going forward!

Brandon Bass
Kris Humphries
Jared Sullinger
Kelly Olynyk
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Vote for 2 PFs to keep
« on: March 13, 2014, 12:55:36 PM »

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This one is a tough 3-way for me, with Bass the easy odd player out due to rebounding and passing weakness relative to the other 3.

In a tough call, I'd keep the more healthy, experienced, and athletic Humphries and look to use Sully to bring in someone at another position, likely in a package.

The 7' Olynyk and double-double veteran Humphries get my vote.
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Re: Vote for 2 PFs to keep
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2014, 01:07:41 PM »

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I can't lay contracts and money aside. Not in this current version of the NBA, and not for a rebuilding team that needs to maximize all of its available tools to improve the roster (including cap space/financial flexibility).

I choose Sullinger and Olynyk. And I'd be willing to trade either of them in the right deal.
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Re: Vote for 2 PFs to keep
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2014, 01:08:31 PM »

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Anyone But Humphries

I keep Sully + Olynyk. Happy to keep Bass for another year as well. Unlikely that Ainge can find two quality centers this summer so I expect the backup center slot to be filled by PF as it regularly has been in recent years. So the three PFs can work together.
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2014, 01:20:54 PM »

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Decent players on rookie contracts are gold in the nba, not to mention their potential to outperform humphries in the near future as well, so i'd choose to keep sully and KO. I really like humphries though, he's an efficient and hustling player that a lot of contenders would want on their team. But we are in a rebuilding phase, as much as I would love to retain him next year, unless he's going to sign something like the MLE and willing to play behind our young players for the sake of development, I'd prefer let him go in FA and clear some cap space, which may create room for other prospects with potential.
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2014, 01:26:12 PM »

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The question, as always, is what can you get for them?

E.g., if Sully can reasonably become the base of a trade for Kevin Love, Sully has to go.

If we're just talking about holding players for long-term potential, then it's KO and JS.

If after trades they're down one or two of them, then KH could be a nice resign.
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Re: Vote for 2 PFs to keep
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2014, 01:36:48 PM »

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Why would we only keep 2?  We have all 4 right now without much issue. 
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Re: Vote for 2 PFs to keep
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2014, 02:47:08 PM »

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Quote from: Moranis on March 13, 2014, 01:36:48 PM
Why would we only keep 2?  We have all 4 right now without much issue.

Well, except for getting killed in the paint and losing over and over.

I'm figuring on a center playing the center position, hopefully soon.  It would seem that Iverson will be on the squad next year, filling at least the 3rd center spot, and might earn backup minutes.

Olynyk is still a bit of a wildcard.  With some conditioning and seasoning on defense, at 7' he could perhaps play C, and surely is expected to be a starter...and fairly soon.  That would open up a spot at PF, allowing to keep both Hump and Sully and playing then all a good deal of minutes.

Hump...seems to be a bit of what Kobe once called a MF'er.  His advantage in size, and playing bigger than he is, are pretty strong advantages in his favor.  I'm a big Sully fan, but I'm not sure how much higher his ceiling might be over his current play, and Hump provides a good deal of that, being perhaps both stead double-double guys.  Sully has a better handle and more range, but Hump might run the floor a bit better and be more athletic.

I suppose that I would expect to get more via trade of Sully than trade of Hump, and I like Hump's size, and a rare combination of professionalism and MF'erness.  That's why I, and I might be in a lonely group here, would keep Hump and look to move Sully as a deal-sweetener for a talent upgrade elsewhere, e.g. backup PG, starting SG.
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2014, 03:03:29 PM »

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Like all of them.  I feel the only two starter quality pf are hump and sully.  i voted to keep hump and ko.
why you ask?
sully is a key guy to get us a better player, he's young and could turn into a very good player
i feel ko will give us the same stats next year as sully is currently and has more height, sully is a great rebounder but ko is right up there just sneaky like
hump is solid, would like to resign him for better contract AND both he and ko could give you center minutes
bass is good off the bench but limited, plays good defense and hits that jumper but….ko and hump hit that same jumper but rebound
much like green i'd like to keep sully but if it means getting a top notch guy (love!) then trade away
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2014, 03:16:48 PM »

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Quote from: More Banners on March 13, 2014, 02:47:08 PM
It would seem that Iverson will be on the squad next year, filling at least the 3rd center spot, and might earn backup minutes.
With Joel Anthony already on board for next season as 3rd string center, I think C.Iverson should stay in Europe for another season.
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2014, 03:20:17 PM »

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Quote from: Moranis on March 13, 2014, 01:36:48 PM
Why would we only keep 2?  We have all 4 right now without much issue.

I am assuming the plan is that we will find a decent center, a star PF or PF prospect (Embiid, Randle, Vonleh, Asik, Love, Kaman) and then a min wager big to round out the bigs.

If we don't find another solid big man, we are going to need to keep 3 of these players.

I voted sullinger and olynyk.
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2014, 03:21:13 PM »

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Quote from: Who on March 13, 2014, 03:16:48 PM
Quote from: More Banners on March 13, 2014, 02:47:08 PM
It would seem that Iverson will be on the squad next year, filling at least the 3rd center spot, and might earn backup minutes.
With Joel Anthony already on board for next season as 3rd string center, I think C.Iverson should stay in Europe for another season.

Let the endless JAnthony vs. CIVerson CB debate begin!
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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2014, 03:37:14 PM »

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I voted Olynyk and Bass.  I love Sully, but I see Kelly developing into a starting power forward, maybe as early as next season.  And, I really like the potential of a Rondo/Olynyk pairing.  I think they are both a couple of basketball genius--misfits that will be interesting to watch together over the course of the next phase.

Sully should have some decent trade value, and I wouldn't mind using him in a trade to upgrade at a spot that we need it (like center).

I like Brandon Bass as a back up power forward.  I think he's much too harshly maligned around here.  I like Hump, as well, but with him being a free agent this off-season, I don't see much point in making a concerted effort to re-sign him. 
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Re: Vote for 2 PFs to keep
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2014, 03:59:59 PM »

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Quote from: Celtics18 on March 13, 2014, 03:37:14 PM
I voted Olynyk and Bass.  I love Sully, but I see Kelly developing into a starting power forward, maybe as early as next season.  And, I really like the potential of a Rondo/Olynyk pairing.  I think they are both a couple of basketball genius--misfits that will be interesting to watch together over the course of the next phase.

Sully should have some decent trade value, and I wouldn't mind using him in a trade to upgrade at a spot that we need it (like center).

I like Brandon Bass as a back up power forward.  I think he's much too harshly maligned around here.  I like Hump, as well, but with him being a free agent this off-season, I don't see much point in making a concerted effort to re-sign him.

Bass is a very good player.  The only thing, to me, is that he is, by a safe margin, the worse passer and rebounder of the bunch, and happens to be one of the shortest as well.  Those are immediate rule-outs for me.

On upside, my money is on Olynyk over Sully, easy.  Olynyk is my #1 option of the four.  Bass is last.

I worked it down to Sully vs. Hump, and money aside, I'll sign Hump for value through his prime, keep KO, find another 7' center, and be open to trading the physically-unlikely-to-age-well Sullinger while his stock is likely at an all-time high.
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2014, 10:21:39 PM »

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Quote from: Moranis on March 13, 2014, 01:36:48 PM
Why would we only keep 2?  We have all 4 right now without much issue.

Except for we suck being an issue. 

We honestly do not have a PF on the team if you really look at it.  They are all tweeners.  C/PF or PF/SF. 

Keep Sully and KO as backups and sign a real PF.
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2014, 01:21:11 AM »

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Quote from: Phil125 on March 13, 2014, 10:21:39 PM
Quote from: Moranis on March 13, 2014, 01:36:48 PM
Why would we only keep 2?  We have all 4 right now without much issue.

Except for we suck being an issue. 

We honestly do not have a PF on the team if you really look at it.  They are all tweeners.  C/PF or PF/SF. 

Keep Sully and KO as backups and sign a real PF.

I don't think think they've got 4/5 tweeners as much as a pile of 4's who too often have to play the 5 for them.
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