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Re: with these 2014 picks would we make the playoffs?
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2014, 01:42:05 PM »

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Yeah that team would be 3 years away from beginning to sniff the playoffs. Next year they might win 20-25 games. Teams filled with rookies rarely do well. Rondo cant be the only vet presence.

Parker's defense needs a lot of work. Sullinger has yet to prove he can defend forwards or centers. WCS is a skinny center and will take years to build his body, and to learn the fundamentals of playing the hardest position to defend and learn in the nba. Maybe in a few years he becomes a poor man's Tyson Chandler - which could be really nice for a mid first pick.

How about we took out WCS and got Asik instead. Can we make it in?

Re: with these 2014 picks would we make the playoffs?
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2014, 02:12:48 PM »

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Yeah that team would be 3 years away from beginning to sniff the playoffs. Next year they might win 20-25 games. Teams filled with rookies rarely do well. Rondo cant be the only vet presence.

Parker's defense needs a lot of work. Sullinger has yet to prove he can defend forwards or centers. WCS is a skinny center and will take years to build his body, and to learn the fundamentals of playing the hardest position to defend and learn in the nba. Maybe in a few years he becomes a poor man's Tyson Chandler - which could be really nice for a mid first pick.

How about we took out WCS and got Asik instead. Can we make it in?

In the east, i would bet on it. Sullinger and asik should be good enough to hold their own on the front line. Rondo is quickly regaining his form. Then in addition to Parker, Stauskas, Olynyk, you could sprinkle in a few veterans to help provide day to day hard working leadership. Vets like Bass, Humphries, Ariza, Sefolosha, Blair, McRoberts,  Livingston, Kaman,  bayless, Steve Blake, etc could provide lower cost help to a young team.

I would keep Johnson on the team too. I really like his game considering his cost and lack of experience.

That kind of team should be better than the Bobcats, and perhaps the Wizards.

Re: with these 2014 picks would we make the playoffs?
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2014, 04:56:07 PM »

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Yeah that team would be 3 years away from beginning to sniff the playoffs. Next year they might win 20-25 games. Teams filled with rookies rarely do well. Rondo cant be the only vet presence.

Parker's defense needs a lot of work. Sullinger has yet to prove he can defend forwards or centers. WCS is a skinny center and will take years to build his body, and to learn the fundamentals of playing the hardest position to defend and learn in the nba. Maybe in a few years he becomes a poor man's Tyson Chandler - which could be really nice for a mid first pick.

How about we took out WCS and got Asik instead. Can we make it in?

In the east, i would bet on it. Sullinger and asik should be good enough to hold their own on the front line. Rondo is quickly regaining his form. Then in addition to Parker, Stauskas, Olynyk, you could sprinkle in a few veterans to help provide day to day hard working leadership. Vets like Bass, Humphries, Ariza, Sefolosha, Blair, McRoberts,  Livingston, Kaman,  bayless, Steve Blake, etc could provide lower cost help to a young team.

I would keep Johnson on the team too. I really like his game considering his cost and lack of experience.

That kind of team should be better than the Bobcats, and perhaps the Wizards.

I agree . It would be a good start. Also like the idea of  getting WCS and waiting a season or two if thats what it will take for him to get it and help the team

Re: with these 2014 picks would we make the playoffs?
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2014, 06:55:28 PM »

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Nope = young draft picks not ready to shoulder that weight. Need more experience.

In your opinion how long would it take then?

I think Jabari Parker's defense is so bad that he is 3-4 seasons away from truly becoming a star player in the NBA. I think he'll put up a lot of empty stats his first few years. Like Durant did his first two seasons.

WCS is an unconvincing defender at the college level. Doesn't have good enough defensive fundamentals / positioning. I cannot believe he'd be ready to be a starting center right out the gate. Really good physical tools though. He is the type of multi-year big man project you love to have on your roster. But I think he'll be a backup center his first year or two and probably not a very good one to begin with. Hopefully by year 3 he'd be ready to start.

Stauskus = I don't know anything about him.

Russ Smith = 3rd string PG

Who,

How many Duke games have you watched this season?  I live about 2 hours from Durham and have watched quite a few.  Parker is an exceptional shot blocker for his size.  Sure, his lateral movement can (BUT WILL) get better, but he is NOT a horrible defender as you portray.  Watch some games buddy.

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Re: with these 2014 picks would we make the playoffs?
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2014, 06:59:54 PM »

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My suspicion is that Parker will end up as kind of a Nowitzki/Melo on defense - not catastrophically horrible, but not someone who would merit an All-defense award.
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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2014, 07:15:53 PM »

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My suspicion is that Parker will end up as kind of a Nowitzki/Melo on defense - not catastrophically horrible, but not someone who would merit an All-defense award.
But also Nowitzki/Melo on offense..

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It certainly wouldn't come as a shock.
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Re: with these 2014 picks would we make the playoffs?
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2014, 07:51:21 PM »

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Re: with these 2014 picks would we make the playoffs?
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Offseason moves

Do not resign
Humphries
Pressey
Avery Bradley

Trade
Faverani and Jeff Green to Hawks for Demarre Carroll ,2014 15th and 47th pick

2014 draft picks
3rd - parker
15th - stauskas
18th - willie cauley stein
47th - russ smith

Starting lineup
C) WCS - Rim protection to deter opposing players from driving in. Lob target for easy dunks. Tyson Chandler like defensive impact

PF) Sullinger - beast rebounder , tip ins, post scoring. Temporarily can guard centers

SF) Parker - fan favorite around here. Game like Melo. Still young to improve defense and body

SG) Stauskas - deadly 3 pt shooter. High iq and plays with effort on both ends. Good height for a sg

PG) Rondo - assist totals should increase.

Bench
Iverson, anthony
KO, Bass
Wallace, Carroll
Johnson
Smith

Parker and Stauskas are not great defenders but are talented offensively.  WCS would provide the rim protection that we desperately lack, and has the ability to save his teammates on the defensive end.  Not a big fan of any of these picks on their own but each would fill some big voids the team currently has.

Can this lineup make the playoffs as soon as next season?

If we are going for the 2 year rebuild I think this roster is perfect for it. Come 2015 we could add a star center hopefully or even power forward. I don't think this roster would make playoffs this year but sprinkle in Paul pierce and kg? There is a possibility and they would be the perfect mentors for all the young guys.
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