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Re: Parker is the Safest Pick
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2014, 06:48:34 PM »

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I prefer Parker. I really think he has an NBA ready game.  I can live with the lackluster defense. 

Celtics need scoring in the worst of ways.  This kid will score & thrive at the NBA level.  I see a lot of Pierce in him.  He can create his own shot. A skill that is lacking on this Celtics team.

Given what I've seen of Wiggins lately, I certainly wouldn't be bummed if we ended up with him as a consolation.  He has a very unique skill set.  The quickness is what jumps out at me.

Problem is that I'm not sure the Celtics will have a shot at either.


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Re: Parker is the Safest Pick
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2014, 07:32:00 PM »

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Safest pick isn't about who has the most upside, it is about who has the least downside. 

One could say that the realistic worst-case scenario for Parker is a guy who can score at the NBA level but is too small/weak to guard power forwards and not quick enough to guard small forwards.  Wiggins might end up as just another athletic marvel who fails to come close to reaching his potential because he has the same sort of lack of killer instinct that people criticize Jeff Green for.  Embiid may have the upside to justify comparisons to Olajuwon, but he's not the first guy to be compared to Olajuwon.
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« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2014, 08:27:22 PM »

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While Parker may indeed be a "safer" pick, I hope we end up with Wiggins. Highly unlikely though. DA seems to be a huge fan of Parker.
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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2014, 08:33:36 PM »

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While Parker may indeed be a "safer" pick, I hope we end up with Wiggins. Highly unlikely though. DA seems to be a huge fan of Parker.

With every win we are also falling out of contention for one of these coveted players. I'd much rather we close out this terrible season with a few more losses and secure one of those players.
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« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2014, 08:56:27 PM »

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Soon he will be the unrealistic pick it seems.
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Re: Parker is the Safest Pick
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2014, 09:45:48 PM »

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The beauty of the lottery is that you have realistic shot at anyone if you miss the playoffs.
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« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2014, 09:46:53 PM »

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Good kid, can score in many ways, plays in the flow of the game, off the charts intelligence. Has a clear NBA position at small forward. Not an elite athlete, but elite enough.

What more could you want?

I think Wiggins and Embiid have more potential upside, but neither is the lock to be great in the NBA that Parker is right now. Sorry haters.

I think Wiggins is the best choice for the Celtics, but Parker should be the number one pick.

COol... will he still be on the board with the 10th pick?

Rondo just played us out of a star.  It is what it is. 

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« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2014, 09:57:33 PM »

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The beauty of the lottery is that you have realistic shot at anyone if you miss the playoffs.

Insert mandatory "so you're telling me there's a chance" clip.
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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2014, 10:00:18 PM »

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Good kid, can score in many ways, plays in the flow of the game, off the charts intelligence. Has a clear NBA position at small forward. Not an elite athlete, but elite enough.

What more could you want?

I think Wiggins and Embiid have more potential upside, but neither is the lock to be great in the NBA that Parker is right now. Sorry haters.

I think Wiggins is the best choice for the Celtics, but Parker should be the number one pick.

COol... will he still be on the board with the 10th pick?

Rondo just played us out of a star.  It is what it is.


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Re: Parker is the Safest Pick
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2014, 10:02:17 PM »

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Good kid, can score in many ways, plays in the flow of the game, off the charts intelligence. Has a clear NBA position at small forward. Not an elite athlete, but elite enough.

What more could you want?

Defense

+1. Defense might get better with experience but especially a better body. And getting a pro is not easy or possible for some people no matter what they do. Look at jared dudlley, scal etc

Wiggins imo is the safest bet. Embiid also more on the safe side with higher upside due to playing the center position

Parker is just smarter than Wiggins. Looking at them play, it just seems clear that Parker has a better understanding for the game than Wiggins does. That's going to make him a better NBA player. We don't talk about BBIQ too much, but the fact is that the elite players: LeBron, KD, Dwayner Wade (as much as I HATE that guy) Rondo, CP3 - are all super duper smart players.

He also has that super long wingspan. I'm sure that Parker could figure out elite defense. Defense is mostly hustle (as proof of this, I can play defense and help my team in pick-up, even though I can barely hit a lay-up).
No, defense is not mostly hustle. Lack of hustle will waste talent, but guys like Lebron, Howard, or even Bradley aren't excellent defenders just due to hustle. They are excellent due to their quickness. TA is the same. Artest was great due to his hands and his strength. Battier is more of a thinking man's defender. The mental part of defense is as valuable as the effort, so Parker could manage that.

When you are a top tier team, everyone is giving a high level of effort, so the talent and skill differences in defense will matter.

I mean, will trying harder stop AI from breaking your ankles?

Pickup is irrelevant because you are dealing with guys who aren't trying hard and who aren't being coached. You can't apply that to NBA competition.

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« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2014, 10:03:17 PM »

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Good kid, can score in many ways, plays in the flow of the game, off the charts intelligence. Has a clear NBA position at small forward. Not an elite athlete, but elite enough.

What more could you want?

I think Wiggins and Embiid have more potential upside, but neither is the lock to be great in the NBA that Parker is right now. Sorry haters.

I think Wiggins is the best choice for the Celtics, but Parker should be the number one pick.

COol... will he still be on the board with the 10th pick?

Rondo just played us out of a star.  It is what it is.


I forgot, the season ends today
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I love when people make a win sound so dramatic.

Re: Parker is the Safest Pick
« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2014, 11:35:53 PM »

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Good kid, can score in many ways, plays in the flow of the game, off the charts intelligence. Has a clear NBA position at small forward. Not an elite athlete, but elite enough.

What more could you want?

I think Wiggins and Embiid have more potential upside, but neither is the lock to be great in the NBA that Parker is right now. Sorry haters.

I think Wiggins is the best choice for the Celtics, but Parker should be the number one pick.

COol... will he still be on the board with the 10th pick?

Rondo just played us out of a star.  It is what it is.


I forgot, the season ends today
;D

I love when people make a win sound so dramatic.
I mean... the Bulls won the 1st pick despite having 9th best odds back in 2009... took Rose with the #1 pick.  So I guess there's still a tiny bit of hope...

But this team is making a playoff push.  We're picking 8-15.

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« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2014, 11:51:50 PM »

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Good kid, can score in many ways, plays in the flow of the game, off the charts intelligence. Has a clear NBA position at small forward. Not an elite athlete, but elite enough.

What more could you want?

I think Wiggins and Embiid have more potential upside, but neither is the lock to be great in the NBA that Parker is right now. Sorry haters.

I think Wiggins is the best choice for the Celtics, but Parker should be the number one pick.

COol... will he still be on the board with the 10th pick?

Rondo just played us out of a star.  It is what it is.


I forgot, the season ends today
;D

I love when people make a win sound so dramatic.
I mean... the Bulls won the 1st pick despite having 9th best odds back in 2009... took Rose with the #1 pick.  So I guess there's still a tiny bit of hope...

But this team is making a playoff push.  We're picking 8-15.

They've won 3 of their last 9. playoff "Push"


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« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2014, 11:52:46 PM »

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« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2014, 11:55:17 PM »

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Good kid, can score in many ways, plays in the flow of the game, off the charts intelligence. Has a clear NBA position at small forward. Not an elite athlete, but elite enough.

What more could you want?

I think Wiggins and Embiid have more potential upside, but neither is the lock to be great in the NBA that Parker is right now. Sorry haters.

I think Wiggins is the best choice for the Celtics, but Parker should be the number one pick.

COol... will he still be on the board with the 10th pick?

Rondo just played us out of a star.  It is what it is.


I forgot, the season ends today
;D

I love when people make a win sound so dramatic.
I mean... the Bulls won the 1st pick despite having 9th best odds back in 2009... took Rose with the #1 pick.  So I guess there's still a tiny bit of hope...

But this team is making a playoff push.  We're picking 8-15.

They've won 3 of their last 9. playoff "Push"


Damage is already done.   

only 5 games out... It's looking like we'll accidentally make it. 

Don't get me wrong... we'll still be a sucky basketball team...but we'll be a sucky basketball team that Indiana will use as a chew toy on in Round 1 of the playoffs.