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Re: Interesting read on Rondo in the BG
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2014, 02:43:32 PM »

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Rondo is a special player, but he needs a special supporting cast: basically both wings and the PF need to be able to space the floor. That's due primarily to the fact that he does not provide a lot of spacing, due to the fact that he is a poor 3P FG shooter.

As such, if the Celtics are going to build around him, they would be in a better decision to make personnel decisions if they knew he would re-sign with the team. Likewise, if Rondo wants the best shot at winning, he would put himself in the best position to do that if he would agree to re-sign with the team.

His own shooting deficiencies are the cause of this. The fact is, he will not be traded to an elite team, and, if he wants a max deal, only a non-contender will be able to afford to give it to him (Houston will re-sign Parsons to something big).

Rondo ought to double down, take his max extension, and commit.

Re: Interesting read on Rondo in the BG
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2014, 02:47:58 PM »

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Rondo is a special player, but he needs a special supporting cast: basically both wings and the PF need to be able to space the floor. That's due primarily to the fact that he does not provide a lot of spacing, due to the fact that he is a poor 3P FG shooter.

As such, if the Celtics are going to build around him, they would be in a better decision to make personnel decisions if they knew he would re-sign with the team. Likewise, if Rondo wants the best shot at winning, he would put himself in the best position to do that if he would agree to re-sign with the team.

His own shooting deficiencies are the cause of this. The fact is, he will not be traded to an elite team, and, if he wants a max deal, only a non-contender will be able to afford to give it to him (Houston will re-sign Parsons to something big).

Rondo ought to double down, take his max extension, and commit.

Rondo is a much better shooter now. And after a full offseason he'll only get more explosive and better conditioned.
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Re: Interesting read on Rondo in the BG
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2014, 03:07:06 PM »

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I wouldn't want anyone at the point position for us, not even Chris Paul.  And I mean that.

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Re: Interesting read on Rondo in the BG
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2014, 03:22:41 PM »

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Rondo is a special player, but he needs a special supporting cast: basically both wings and the PF need to be able to space the floor. That's due primarily to the fact that he does not provide a lot of spacing, due to the fact that he is a poor 3P FG shooter.

As such, if the Celtics are going to build around him, they would be in a better decision to make personnel decisions if they knew he would re-sign with the team. Likewise, if Rondo wants the best shot at winning, he would put himself in the best position to do that if he would agree to re-sign with the team.

His own shooting deficiencies are the cause of this. The fact is, he will not be traded to an elite team, and, if he wants a max deal, only a non-contender will be able to afford to give it to him (Houston will re-sign Parsons to something big).

Rondo ought to double down, take his max extension, and commit.

Rondo is a much better shooter now. And after a full offseason he'll only get more explosive and better conditioned.

So - I hope that's true - but he is in his 7th/8th year in the NBA. His shooting percentage is down this year. In wins he shoots over 50FG%, in losses, sub 40%. His FG% is a gigantic issue for his teams.

At some point, you are what you are. If he recognized his own limitations shooting the ball, and if he wanted to win, logic dictates he immediately re-sign.

Re: Interesting read on Rondo in the BG
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2014, 03:50:43 PM »

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Rondo is a special player, but he needs a special supporting cast: basically both wings and the PF need to be able to space the floor. That's due primarily to the fact that he does not provide a lot of spacing, due to the fact that he is a poor 3P FG shooter.

As such, if the Celtics are going to build around him, they would be in a better decision to make personnel decisions if they knew he would re-sign with the team. Likewise, if Rondo wants the best shot at winning, he would put himself in the best position to do that if he would agree to re-sign with the team.

His own shooting deficiencies are the cause of this. The fact is, he will not be traded to an elite team, and, if he wants a max deal, only a non-contender will be able to afford to give it to him (Houston will re-sign Parsons to something big).

Rondo ought to double down, take his max extension, and commit.

This is circular logic at best - "no other viable team will be able to get him so he should just re up now". If you really believe that then his free agency shouldn't be a threat. Never mind the fact that it makes no sense for him to resign now, not financially and not from a winning standpoint. He restricts himself to years and money if he resigns before free agency and he should be unwilling to commit to a team in transition during the rest of his prime.

As far as the type of players you need to put around him, its not nearly that cut and dry. During the vintage Avery Bradley era, Avery cutting to the basket paired with Rondo's ability to see passing angles made our offense much more dynamic than it was at that time. Also let's not forget how dominant the Rondo/Shaq duo was even though it was short lived. I think the need to put Rondo in a box is more fan-based than having to do with his basketball ability; we've seen him play with the likes of KG, Paul, and Ray for so long that we think that's all he's capable of playing with.
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Re: Interesting read on Rondo in the BG
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2014, 03:58:11 PM »

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Rondo is a special player, but he needs a special supporting cast: basically both wings and the PF need to be able to space the floor. That's due primarily to the fact that he does not provide a lot of spacing, due to the fact that he is a poor 3P FG shooter.

As such, if the Celtics are going to build around him, they would be in a better decision to make personnel decisions if they knew he would re-sign with the team. Likewise, if Rondo wants the best shot at winning, he would put himself in the best position to do that if he would agree to re-sign with the team.

His own shooting deficiencies are the cause of this. The fact is, he will not be traded to an elite team, and, if he wants a max deal, only a non-contender will be able to afford to give it to him (Houston will re-sign Parsons to something big).

Rondo ought to double down, take his max extension, and commit.

Rondo is a much better shooter now. And after a full offseason he'll only get more explosive and better conditioned.

So - I hope that's true - but he is in his 7th/8th year in the NBA. His shooting percentage is down this year. In wins he shoots over 50FG%, in losses, sub 40%. His FG% is a gigantic issue for his teams.

At some point, you are what you are. If he recognized his own limitations shooting the ball, and if he wanted to win, logic dictates he immediately re-sign.

Rondo has always had a good FG percentage. This season is an aberration, due to injury

Re: Interesting read on Rondo in the BG
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2014, 04:20:52 PM »

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Rondo is a special player, but he needs a special supporting cast: basically both wings and the PF need to be able to space the floor. That's due primarily to the fact that he does not provide a lot of spacing, due to the fact that he is a poor 3P FG shooter.

  There's really no evidence of this. He's successful with Ray and he's successful with Bradley. He's successful with Shaq or Perk or Bass or Davis. Put some good players around him and the team will be successful.

Re: Interesting read on Rondo in the BG
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2014, 04:40:46 PM »

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Rondo is actually shooting a career high percentage and number of Threes per game. he has really improved his shooting. This should make him a much deadlier player. much like Jason Kidd was in his prime. layups and 3's


give Rondo good players and he will excel...I wonder how many assists he has missed this year due to guys like wallace missing wide open layups

Re: Interesting read on Rondo in the BG
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2014, 05:08:01 PM »

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That night, he tore them apart, havoc from the start, three steals in the first 4½ minutes. The Los Angeles Lakers couldn’t even function. Rewatch Game 6. Really. Rewatch what Rajon Rondo did.

“Best player in the world that night,” said Danny Ainge, the Celtics’ president of basketball operations.
 
The world. On the same court with Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett — and Kobe Bryant. Yes, when glory returned to the parquet in June 2008, Rondo, a second-year point guard, ruled.

Hey, Danny said it, not me ;).

But I've mentioned b4 on here how Rondo had maybe the most complete game that night in June 08.

As for his commitment? I have the feeling - just ME - that Danny will try to go for a FAST rebuild - A LA Summer of 2007 - and Rondo will get the tools he needs to contend again.

I just don't think that Danny will try for a slow rebuild....he is waiting for the right time to strike.

And that will suit Rondo.

Re: Interesting read on Rondo in the BG
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2014, 05:31:17 PM »

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Rondo's poor shooing % this year is largely due to him missing shots inside the paint, something that is almost certainly due to him working his way back into shape post-injury. He has been shooting the elbow jumper and the 3 pretty well. He has worked at his jumper quite a bit over the years, and the results are catching up to the good form he started to develop 2 or 3 seasons back.