If Celtics Do Nothing this Summer?

[Pucaccia]

Based on the post http://www.celticsblog.com/2014/3/8/5478428/assuming-minimal-changes-how-good-is-this-team-next-year

What if they just get a great interior defender like Asik. Do you think they will be on the right track?
Maybe a 5 or 6 seed while they keep developing players and follow the Pacers model.

[gpap]

No. This team is EXTREMELY far from a playoff team as currently constituted.

You are what your record says you are.

Well right now the Celts are 20 games below 500.

They need to add at least 2-3 really good players.

[Tr1boy]

Based on the post http://www.celticsblog.com/2014/3/8/5478428/assuming-minimal-changes-how-good-is-this-team-next-year

What if they just get a great interior defender like Asik. Do you think they will be on the right track?
Maybe a 5 or 6 seed while they keep developing players and follow the Pacers model.

A legit starting Center is a must if thats the plan.  Currently Asik is coming off the bench and not playing all that great.  I rather not give up much to get him

IF we draft Embiid, i don't see the team making too much changes. AB and Humphries might actually be resigned also.

If we don't draft Embiid, thats where things get a little tricky. I would imagine if its Wiggins or Parker, Green has to go. If its Exum, lots of pressure on Rondo and less pressure on the org to have to give him a deal he and his agent wants

[LarBrd33]

Let's just assume we'll win a couple more games, miss the playoffs, and end up drafting 10th. 

Let's assume we use that pick on some capable backup.  Let's assume we use Brooklyn's 17-20 pick on some role player.  Let's assume we do nothing else this summer other than re-sign Bradley.

I think Sully and Oly will show a tiny bit of improvement.  I think 36 wins is definitely within reach.

Of course, doing nothing means we'll have no cap space in 2015 either...  so with no clear path in sight towards contention, Rondo will more than likely sign with Phil jackson and the Knicks. 

Then we bottom out for the 2016 draft.  Let's assume that draft isn't as epic as this and we end up taking a bust.

Then we bottom out for the 2017 draft.  Let's assume that draft isn't as epic as this and we end up taking a bust.

Then we bottom out for the 2018 draft.  Let's... well... you get the picture.

[dreamgreen]

Let's just assume we'll win a couple more games, miss the playoffs, and end up drafting 10th. 

Let's assume we use that pick on some capable backup.  Let's assume we use Brooklyn's 17-20 pick on some role player.  Let's assume we do nothing else this summer other than re-sign Bradley.

I think Sully and Oly will show a tiny bit of improvement.  I think 36 wins is definitely within reach.

Of course, doing nothing means we'll have no cap space in 2015 either...  so with no clear path in sight towards contention, Rondo will more than likely sign with Phil jackson and the Knicks. 

Then we bottom out for the 2016 draft.  Let's assume that draft isn't as epic as this and we end up taking a bust.

Then we bottom out for the 2017 draft.  Let's assume that draft isn't as epic as this and we end up taking a bust.

Then we bottom out for the 2018 draft.  Let's... well... you get the picture.

Good God, that makes me want to jump off a cliff!

36 wins the east is what the 7 seed?

IMO everything will come down to what pick we have.

[LarBrd33]

Let's just assume we'll win a couple more games, miss the playoffs, and end up drafting 10th. 

Let's assume we use that pick on some capable backup.  Let's assume we use Brooklyn's 17-20 pick on some role player.  Let's assume we do nothing else this summer other than re-sign Bradley.

I think Sully and Oly will show a tiny bit of improvement.  I think 36 wins is definitely within reach.

Of course, doing nothing means we'll have no cap space in 2015 either...  so with no clear path in sight towards contention, Rondo will more than likely sign with Phil jackson and the Knicks. 

Then we bottom out for the 2016 draft.  Let's assume that draft isn't as epic as this and we end up taking a bust.

Then we bottom out for the 2017 draft.  Let's assume that draft isn't as epic as this and we end up taking a bust.

Then we bottom out for the 2018 draft.  Let's... well... you get the picture.

Good God, that makes me want to jump off a cliff!

36 wins the east is what the 7 seed?

IMO everything will come down to what pick we have.

Not necessarily.  I don't expect it will be the same as this year.  Should be some above .500 teams next year filling out the East.

[Cman]

No. This team is EXTREMELY far from a playoff team as currently constituted.

You are what your record says you are.

Well right now the Celts are 20 games below 500.

They need to add at least 2-3 really good players.

Yes, but... we might not be able to.


In fact, the most likely outcome this summer is that: we draft a couple players, and sign Rondo to an extension.

It is highly *unlikely* that there will be any really big trades. That is just the nature of this business, and that is the nature of rebuilding. Doesn't happen overnight.

[Q_FBE]

If the Celtics did nothing in 2007 but draft Joakim Noah and kept Al Jefferson we would have Rondo, Avery Bradley, Paul Pierce (or Loul Deng or equivalent), Jefferson, and Noah as starters. Perkins and FA role players off the bench. Doc Rivers would not be our coach and that would have been a good thing. Maybe it would be Thibadeaux. We would be a tough team for sure.

[D.o.s.]

If the Celtics did nothing in 2007 but draft Joakim Noah and kept Al Jefferson we would have Rondo, Avery Bradley, Paul Pierce (or Loul Deng or equivalent), Jefferson, and Noah as starters. Perkins and FA role players off the bench. Doc Rivers would not be our coach and that would have been a good thing. Maybe it would be Thibadeaux. We would be a tough team for sure.

Why wouldn't Doc have been the coach?

[slamtheking]

If the Celtics did nothing in 2007 but draft Joakim Noah and kept Al Jefferson we would have Rondo, Avery Bradley, Paul Pierce (or Loul Deng or equivalent), Jefferson, and Noah as starters. Perkins and FA role players off the bench. Doc Rivers would not be our coach and that would have been a good thing. Maybe it would be Thibadeaux. We would be a tough team for sure.

Noah has turned out to be the 3rd/4th best player from that draft.  the thing is, he wasn't on Danny's radar for that draft.

[the_Bird]

No. This team is EXTREMELY far from a playoff team as currently constituted.

You are what your record says you are.

Well right now the Celts are 20 games below 500.

They need to add at least 2-3 really good players.

Yes, but... we might not be able to.


In fact, the most likely outcome this summer is that: we draft a couple players, and sign Rondo to an extension.

It is highly *unlikely* that there will be any really big trades. That is just the nature of this business, and that is the nature of rebuilding. Doesn't happen overnight.

Rondo's not signing an extension.  Danny can offer him as much as he's allowed to, and Rondo's not re-upping.  Part of it is that he needs to see what kind of team he's going to have around him, but I think he's made it clear that he wants to be fawned over a little bit in free agency.

Moreover, if Danny *doesn't* make a move to get the team moving forward next season, there's a real good chance that Rondo lets it be known that he won't re-up. 

And, I don't see Rondo as holding any loyalty to the team, nor would I expect him to.  I'm sure he's loyal to his boys, but they're all playing in Brooklyn right now.  He certainly doesn't/shouldn't feel any particular loyalty to Danny.  Rondo will re-up if the money is right and if he's convinced the team will be championship-caliber within a fairly short period.

[D.o.s.]

No. This team is EXTREMELY far from a playoff team as currently constituted.

You are what your record says you are.

Well right now the Celts are 20 games below 500.

They need to add at least 2-3 really good players.

Yes, but... we might not be able to.


In fact, the most likely outcome this summer is that: we draft a couple players, and sign Rondo to an extension.

It is highly *unlikely* that there will be any really big trades. That is just the nature of this business, and that is the nature of rebuilding. Doesn't happen overnight.

Rondo's not signing an extension.  Danny can offer him as much as he's allowed to, and Rondo's not re-upping.  Part of it is that he needs to see what kind of team he's going to have around him, but I think he's made it clear that he wants to be fawned over a little bit. 

Moreover, if Danny *doesn't* make a move to get the team moving forward next season, there's a real good chance that Rondo lets it be known that he won't re-up.

There's also the fact that Rondo can get a lot more money if he re-signs as a free agent with the Celtics.

[Evantime34]

If we do nothing we would need to destroy the draft, have everyone healthy and have all the young player improve. This is unlikely at best to happen. That being said if they were able to trade for Omer Asik plus adding the draft picks, we would be much improved.