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Letting Bradley hit FA is probably DA's best move
« on: March 07, 2014, 09:54:51 AM »

Offline PaulAllen

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Since AB was declining a multi year 7 mil per contract its best that he hits the market as a restricted FA allowing the Celtics to match an offer if they choose..

Most of us agree he is not worth the 8-9 mil he is looking for so along with the injuries maybe the market will soften a bit for a great defensive player who has shown some flashes of offensive greatness..


So why is it important to resign.. He has shown a more consistant shot (even though its not there yet).. again why he is NOT worth 8 million a year... dont forget he is only 23 so he is not even close to peaking... he has the ability to be a top defender for a defensive minded team

I know many people are sour on him and dont want to pay anything near that price but the kid has a great future in the league and in a few years a 7 mil salary might look like a bargain... I would be happy at a 4 year 30 mil contract (again that only works if the market is low on him)...take your time rehabing Avery

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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2014, 10:48:11 AM »

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He's undersized, injury prone and flat out sucks.  I am not sure why everyone thinks hes the best thing since sliced bread.  He can't shoot that well, and shoots to much, blows wide open layups and is inconsistent. Let him walk!

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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2014, 11:44:46 AM »

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Bradley's stock has dropped considerably since his injury. 

Bradley needed to prove he could, above all else, stay on the court. And he couldn't. He has NEVER been able to stay on the court.


Bradley will be lucky to get anything anywhere near even 7 mil... and Danny is looking smarter and smarter for not resigning him.

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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2014, 11:47:39 AM »

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Bradley's stock has dropped considerably since his injury. 

Bradley needed to prove he could, above all else, stay on the court. And he couldn't. He has NEVER been able to stay on the court.


Bradley will be lucky to get anything anywhere near even 7 mil... and Danny is looking smarter and smarter for not resigning him.

I was just thinking the same thing...I love Bradley coming off the bench as a lockdown defender, but around 4 mil, 5 mil tops. Any more than that, he can be shown the door.

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So Bradley is a restricted free agent. They are going to sign him to his qualifying offer then match if someone else offers him an acceptable contract. I think he probably plays out the year on a qualifying offer.
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2014, 12:02:33 PM »

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Dude is 23 not 28... and while were in agreement that hes not worth 8 mil you can say hes crap or worthless or whatever you want to say.. All of his numbers have been progessing year by year... he can lock down any guard in the league... He would be an essential piece on a winning team... He is growing, dont be so critical.

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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2014, 12:03:58 PM »

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So Bradley is a restricted free agent. They are going to sign him to his qualifying offer then match if someone else offers him an acceptable contract. I think he probably plays out the year on a qualifying offer.

he will find a multi year contract somewhere, its the question if the celtics match if the market is not buying as well as he thought.

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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2014, 12:07:41 PM »

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It's tough to say, since I like the way he plays (when he plays) but the Celtics simply need to upgrade Bradley's position at the 2 guard. Assuming Rondo is the starting point guard, he's out.

Jarrett Jack at $6.3M/per now looks like stupidity. With the cap the way it is, the Celtics cannot afford to go all "late 90s" with stupid contracts. Unfortunately for Bradley, there are a lot of young players who can spell either guard spot off the bench.

Look at how good Reggie Jackson was with Westbrook out - he's a bench guard now.

If AB gets $4M/per, he should be doing a happy little dance. While he would be a great option as the first guard off the bench, he is not starting caliber, and is the wrong choice for a 2 guard to play with Rajon Rondo.

If he wants $7M, cue Boyz 2 Men:


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I think the injuries kill his improved statistical year and the Cs retain him for between 5.5-6.5 mill. This price point makes him a very high end sub or 5th starter which is about right for AB. Had he stayed healthy other teams may have offered 7-8 mill but I believe that ship has sailed.
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So Bradley is a restricted free agent. They are going to sign him to his qualifying offer then match if someone else offers him an acceptable contract. I think he probably plays out the year on a qualifying offer.

This wouldn't surprise me, there's very little market for mid-range contract guys these days.  And Bradley's injuries and our general suckiness are keeping him out of the league's attention. 

Somebody might offer him their MLE but I can't see him commanding much more than that. 

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So Bradley is a restricted free agent. They are going to sign him to his qualifying offer then match if someone else offers him an acceptable contract. I think he probably plays out the year on a qualifying offer.

he will find a multi year contract somewhere, its the question if the celtics match if the market is not buying as well as he thought.

You really think so?

I don't think anyone's lining up to spend money on AB.
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So Bradley is a restricted free agent. They are going to sign him to his qualifying offer then match if someone else offers him an acceptable contract. I think he probably plays out the year on a qualifying offer.

he will find a multi year contract somewhere, its the question if the celtics match if the market is not buying as well as he thought.

You really think so?

I don't think anyone's lining up to spend money on AB.

I agree. In the end i think AB gets the a similar offer or less vs the Celts offer.

But now the Celts offer will be off the table, he gets signed to a qualifying offer then gets traded or just doesn't get offered anything

Dumb move by AB and his agent. I mean your a guy who hasn't been able to stay healthy in any season you played in the league so far. You are not any better than say a Tony Allen is making 5 million a year and you try to be greedy.

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I think the injuries kill his improved statistical year and the Cs retain him for between 5.5-6.5 mill. This price point makes him a very high end sub or 5th starter which is about right for AB. Had he stayed healthy other teams may have offered 7-8 mill but I believe that ship has sailed.

This is pretty much spot on how I feel. I think he could be a starter sandwiched between Rondo and say, Jabari Parker, where he'd be primarily playing off the ball. It's when he's had too much responsibility on offense that he's looked really bad.

He's been banged up a lot thus far, but are his injuries in any way predictive? His shoulder issues seem to be corrected at least for the time being. If he had no cartilage in his knees or a herniated disc in his back that'd be one thing, but his issues don't look to be chronic.


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How much do you think GMs will give a 23-year-old shooting guard with NBA All-Defensive ability whose ceiling could be 40% on threes with 16-18 points per game?  (If you don't think his ceiling is at least that high, I don't think you are a good judge of talent.)

I could see Detroit paying Greg Monroe, then using the rest of their cap space to throw some money at Bradley as an upgrade over Stuckey (which he is).  If Joe Dumars is still GM and locks in on Bradley as a target, how much do you think he would be willing to pay?
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Bradley's stock has dropped considerably since his injury. 

Bradley needed to prove he could, above all else, stay on the court. And he couldn't. He has NEVER been able to stay on the court.


Bradley will be lucky to get anything anywhere near even 7 mil... and Danny is looking smarter and smarter for not resigning him.
He's incredibly injury-prone... which is the risk you run when you're a 6'2 180 pound "shooting guard".  Find me an example of a micro-sized shooting guard like that who has excelled.  Jason Terry, I guess.  He was usually a back-up.  Every once in a while he started on a team by default.

I still say Bradley's long-term future is either as a back-up guard... or as a role playing PG.  LIke, you could stick Bradley on the Heat, let him bring the ball up the court, pass it to LeBron, and get out of the way.  He'd be the default "point guard"... exclusively used to slow down opposing point guards and hit open shots.  Plenty of teams have won championships with that kind of Derek Fisher role player.  That's Bradley's future.

Don't give him big money.  Maybe he'll just take the qualifying offer and stick around for another season on small money.