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Re: I get this feeling that Bradley won't be with us next season,,anyone agree?
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2014, 10:13:09 AM »

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I would say if this was 5-6 years ago, Bradley might've gotten 7-8. But now that under certain CBA rules restricting cap space, no one is going to give Bradley anything more than 5-6 mil or 3-4 with an additional year.

I mean based on the market alone, General managers just don't find complimentary role players worth the big bucks or a decent contract. Spencer Hawes will probably get like what? 5 or 4 million a year? Hes a solid starting Center, but not worth more than 6-7 year like most solid Centers are getting.

Bradley is gone, and most likely will be traded for a young prospect, or for an expiring contract with a pick or two second rounders.
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Re: I get this feeling that Bradley won't be with us next season,,anyone agree?
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2014, 10:18:25 AM »

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People are assuming that Bradley will be in line for a huge deal that the C's will choose to match. Considering he has never played a full season in his career and is a restricted free agent, I think his price plummets and we bring him back for around $6 MM a year. I also wouldn't be surprised if we dealt him in the offseason but I think it's more likely we just match whatever offer he gets.
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Re: I get this feeling that Bradley won't be with us next season,,anyone agree?
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2014, 10:23:50 AM »

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Not interested in him at $6 large, either.
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Re: I get this feeling that Bradley won't be with us next season,,anyone agree?
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2014, 10:24:52 AM »

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AB ..."was" a favorite Celtic for a while.

This was the defensive era specialist .  Game changer as a lock down defender.

This was where he hung his hat in the NBA......love his intensity. And bench contribution.

He doesn 't have the skill sets ,  finishing , passing,  etc......to be a starter .....too many weak areas.

If AB is not going to continue his defense and be a streak shooter lobbing brick s.......he needs to go.

I would rather the Celtics Invest big contract money on Waiters or Hayward .     

Sorry....but I think it is better to cut our losses , offer him a very celtics favorable deal.......which he turn down and let him walk .......hire Hayward. This summer.

Hayward is a starter, and will be for years,  makes more sense in every way than AB.....especially with AB wanting so much money

AB as a defensive specialist off bench for 3 mill or let him go.

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« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2014, 10:54:19 AM »

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Not interested in him at $6 large, either.

Ditto.

Is he worth more than MLE? I think his value is in the Tony Allen range - but he's not as versatile of a defender as TA, who can defend the 1,2, or 3. So I think anything in the $3m or $4m range is reasonable. Anything over that, and you're over paying.
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« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2014, 10:55:28 AM »

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I would like to retain him on mle money but not more.

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« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2014, 11:05:30 AM »

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Not interested in him at $6 large, either.

Ditto.

Is he worth more than MLE? I think his value is in the Tony Allen range - but he's not as versatile of a defender as TA, who can defend the 1,2, or 3. So I think anything in the $3m or $4m range is reasonable. Anything over that, and you're over paying.

Agreed. I have no interest in paying him $6 million/yr at this point in our rebuild. Far too many limitations. In fact, I have no interest in paying him Courtney Lee money either. 3yrs 12 million. That's it.

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« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2014, 11:55:29 AM »

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This ankle injury may have driven his value down enough that he's a practical option for the C's. Any "replacement value" guy will cost you a couple of million a year (even if it's on a rookie contract). If we don't have to pay much more than that to keep Bradley (like, $4 million per), I think it's a good option. He will remain pretty moveable with that deal even if he never improves.

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« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2014, 12:06:07 PM »

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Bradley is not worth anything more than 6-7 mil per. If he demands that much then we need to look at options to trade him. I want him at about 4-5 mil, 6 mil is stretching it.

His ankle injury definitely drove his value down, which my be beneficial to us.

My dream scenario is us drafting either Parker/Wiggins or Smart. Parker/Wiggins allow us to trade Green and save 9 mil per season. Drafting Smart gives us two options. Shift Bradley to bench role where he comes off the bench purely to shut down opposing players or B. trade him for picks/players.

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« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2014, 12:14:34 PM »

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Id give Bradley a Jeff Green type 7-8 million for one year offer. Make him prove he can stay healthy for a year and earn a longer deal, or else he can walk. That way if he doesn't pan out he's still off the books in a year or can be easily traded

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« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2014, 12:51:21 PM »

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Instead of defending at an elite level, Avery should have been "saving his energy" for offense because he's being under-appreciated here.

Avery's already an elite defensive player, has become a solid mid range shooter and rebounder for his position, is inching closer to league average as a 3 Pt shooter, has seen steady improvement every year in the league... and he's still just 23 years old...

If the Suns can start a successful undersized back court, why can't the Celtics?

He's going to command a contract valued at $5-8M per unless his injury history scares potential suitors away (doubtful... but it could hurt the length/$ of the contract). He's going to be worth it, especially to a playoff team (ala Tony Allen).

Avery can be a long term solution at SG, if the main concerns for the team are addressed (rim protecting C and elite scorer). The main concern being that Avery's game might not be built for 30 MPG consistently, but if he continues to get stronger and adjusts his game, he can definitely become a Starting caliber player on a contender.

Danny should match anything up to 4 years/$24M... even 4/$28M shouldn't be out of the discussion. People around here are devaluing Avery as a player, his work ethic/development and potential.

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« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2014, 12:59:27 PM »

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Instead of defending at an elite level, Avery should have been "saving his energy" for offense because he's being under-appreciated here.

Avery's already an elite defensive player, has become a solid mid range shooter and rebounder for his position, is inching closer to league average as a 3 Pt shooter, has seen steady improvement every year in the league... and he's still just 23 years old...

If the Suns can start a successful undersized back court, why can't the Celtics?

He's going to command a contract valued at $5-8M per unless his injury history scares potential suitors away (doubtful... but it could hurt the length/$ of the contract). He's going to be worth it, especially to a playoff team (ala Tony Allen).

Avery can be a long term solution at SG, if the main concerns for the team are addressed (rim protecting C and elite scorer). The main concern being that Avery's game might not be built for 30 MPG consistently, but if he continues to get stronger and adjusts his game, he can definitely become a Starting caliber player on a contender.

Danny should match anything up to 4 years/$24M... even 4/$28M shouldn't be out of the discussion. People around here are devaluing Avery as a player, his work ethic/development and potential.

No question, Avery has been an elite defender in the past. But his defense has dropped off this season - probably because he's expending too much energy on the offensive end. Speaking of which, he's definitely forcing things in that area, he's not playing in the flow of the offense - he's been chucking up shots. I think the knocks against his inability on the offensive end are in his head and he's trying to show he's a 2-way player for his next contract. If he can get back to his strengths (playing elite level defense, finding cuts to the basket on offense), then I like him as a 3rd guard.

And as far as the Suns - both Dragic and Bledsoe are above average shooters. That's why it works so well.
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« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2014, 01:02:58 PM »

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I still think any one offering him more then the MLE is crazy in the current NBA salary structure. 



How many trades did we just see for talent and how many did we just see to move salary around? 




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« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2014, 02:31:47 PM »

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I like AB, like most of us do, and hope he resigns at the right price.

But yeah, the right price is dropping by the month. Above  MLE is clearly too much money. The MLE (5-6 per year) also is feeling like too much. I might be more content with Chris Johnson at the 2 at his rookie rate. Every million spent on a role player, puts the celtics a million dollars away from having the room to sign a max star player or impact defensive big during the next 3 years.

3-4 million per year sounds about right for a defensive back up guard, who has been plagued by little injuries every year.

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« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2014, 02:48:11 PM »

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Every million spent on a role player, puts the celtics a million dollars away from having the room to sign a max star player or impact defensive big during the next 3 years.
I'd go out on a limb and say that we're not going to sign a max star player or an impact defensive big via free agency over the next three years, Bradley or no Bradley.
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