Would the T-Wolves even be willing to deal K-Love to the Celtics?

[obnoxiousmime]

I was thinking about this question with "Flipgate" being in the news. After dealing their last franchise guy in Garnett to the Celtics and seeing him win a title in a different uniform in 08, wouldn't it be extremely unpopular if your next franchise star was ALSO dealt to Boston? How could you possibly sell that to your fans? It would just reinforce the idea in your fanbase that the cycle of losing will never end.

It would be like the Cavs throwing their hands up in the air and saying, "Well darn, Kyrie is leaving anyway. Let's deal him to Miami because they have the best offer." NO! Of course that would be ridiculous.

Dealing K-Love to Boston would just bring up all the old, painful memories from 07 back again (it also doesn't help that Jefferson and all the other players in the deal didn't exactly become long-term pieces for them).

The more realistic way the Celtics get Love is as a free agent or in a sign-and-trade. But that doesn't seem so likely now that whispers of him opting out are out there. Minnesota will be forced to deal him before the end of next season and Love will find a way to maneuver a deal to a team he deems acceptable by threatening not to re-sign.

Based on the current talent level I can't see Boston being one of those desirable teams Love will accept a deal to. That is, unless they make a Ray Allen-esque trade on draft day (Carmelo!?!).

Even then, would Minnesota take the PR hit of dealing a second star in a row to Boston? I'm not so sure...

[PhoSita]

I think the Wolves would trade him here if the Celtics have the most competitive package by a clear margin.

[Monkhouse]

I was thinking about this question with "Flipgate" being in the news. After dealing their last franchise guy in Garnett to the Celtics and seeing him win a title in a different uniform in 08, wouldn't it be extremely unpopular if your next franchise star was ALSO dealt to Boston? How could you possibly sell that to your fans? It would just reinforce the idea in your fanbase that the cycle of losing will never end.

It would be like the Cavs throwing their hands up in the air and saying, "Well darn, Kyrie is leaving anyway. Let's deal him to Miami because they have the best offer." NO! Of course that would be ridiculous.

Dealing K-Love to Boston would just bring up all the old, painful memories from 07 back again (it also doesn't help that Jefferson and all the other players in the deal didn't exactly become long-term pieces for them).

The more realistic way the Celtics get Love is as a free agent or in a sign-and-trade. But that doesn't seem so likely now that whispers of him opting out are out there. Minnesota will be forced to deal him before the end of next season and Love will find a way to maneuver a deal to a team he deems acceptable by threatening not to re-sign.

Based on the current talent level I can't see Boston being one of those desirable teams Love will accept a deal to. That is, unless they make a Ray Allen-esque trade on draft day (Carmelo!?!).

Even then, would Minnesota take the PR hit of dealing a second star in a row to Boston? I'm not so sure...

I'm pretty sure they'd get worse PR if they traded Love for literally pennies on the dollar. The Celtics have the best trade package lined up for any superstar imo...

Looking at 76ers, Suns, and Bucks they don't really have anything of true value. Sully may not be as good, but he's a la Jefferson, and actually in my opinion plays harder, and may be a better player that may want to stay with the Wolves if traded there.

[RJ87]

I wrote a long response that got whipped out, but here's the basics:

It'll be a combination of where Kevin Love wants to resign and who has the best offer. Ainge has been stockpiling assets and has position Boston in position to make a significant trade. Everyone thinks Kevin is LA bound but his recent comments about Brad Stevens means he's at least looked in our direction. Bottom line: Minny will take the best offer available, not doing so to "save face" is only going to hurt them long term.

[gpap]

As a Celts fan, thinking about Love in green is exciting.

However, I don't find it very realistic.

There's no more Kevin McHale in Minny to give Danny a sweetheart deal.

On top of that if I am Minnesota, I don't really find a package of Sullinger, Bradley, Green, picks or whatever to be a very enticing package.

It might sound enticing to us because we want Minny to say yes, but I don't think they do.

Especially when a team like Chicago could offer Joakim Noah for Love to go along with Derrick Rose, Indiana could offer Roy Hibbert for Love to go along with Paul George, etc.

Miami could offer Chalmers and Bosh to pair up Love with Lebron and Wade and the Clippers could offer Blake Griffin for Love to pair up with Chris Paul, if they don't win the west this year.

OKC could offer Serge Ibaka for Love.

Just saying that when you compare our "assets" to what other teams could offer, it's not that enticing.

I could be wrong and hope I am.

Now when Love hits free agency in 2015, that COULD be a different story.

But as for a trade, I don't see it happening.

[manl_lui]

they gave us Garnett before, why not another Kevin

[gpap]

they gave us Garnett before, why not another Kevin

Because the Kevin that gave us the last Kevin is no longer there to give us the new Kevin.

Make sense?

[Monkhouse]

As a Celts fan, thinking about Love in green is exciting.

However, I don't find it very realistic.

There's no more Kevin McHale in Minny to give Danny a sweetheart deal.

On top of that if I am Minnesota, I don't really find a package of Sullinger, Bradley, Green, picks or whatever to be a very enticing package.

It might sound enticing to us because we want Minny to say yes, but I don't think they do.

Especially when a team like Chicago could offer Joakim Noah for Love to go along with Derrick Rose, Indiana could offer Roy Hibbert for Love to go along with Paul George, etc.

Miami could offer Chalmers and Bosh to pair up Love with Lebron and Wade and the Clippers could offer Blake Griffin for Love to pair up with Chris Paul, if they don't win the west this year.

OKC could offer Serge Ibaka for Love.

Just saying that when you compare our "assets" to what other teams could offer, it's not that enticing.

I could be wrong and hope I am.

Now when Love hits free agency in 2015, that COULD be a different story.

But as for a trade, I don't see it happening.

Ummm what? Half of the players you listed, aren't going to be traded..

Chicago would rather keep Noah imo... Hes their centerpiece over Rose any day. Hibbert? Heck no, he is not getting moved! Bosh? Seriously doubt he'd re-sign. Griffin/Ibaka are question marks, but Griffin is becoming more and more of the star player the Clippers wanted... Ibaka? Maybe. But none of those packages are even anything valuable, especially when you consider the fact only a half of them are superstars. What we can offer is a plethora of draft picks, Sullinger who may be a 3-4 time Allstar, and decent players in return..

Honestly I don't even know who else can trump our offers..

[RJ87]

As a Celts fan, thinking about Love in green is exciting.

However, I don't find it very realistic.

There's no more Kevin McHale in Minny to give Danny a sweetheart deal.

On top of that if I am Minnesota, I don't really find a package of Sullinger, Bradley, Green, picks or whatever to be a very enticing package.

It might sound enticing to us because we want Minny to say yes, but I don't think they do.

Especially when a team like Chicago could offer Joakim Noah for Love to go along with Derrick Rose, Indiana could offer Roy Hibbert for Love to go along with Paul George, etc.

Miami could offer Chalmers and Bosh to pair up Love with Lebron and Wade and the Clippers could offer Blake Griffin for Love to pair up with Chris Paul, if they don't win the west this year.

OKC could offer Serge Ibaka for Love.

Just saying that when you compare our "assets" to what other teams could offer, it's not that enticing.

I could be wrong and hope I am.

Now when Love hits free agency in 2015, that COULD be a different story.

But as for a trade, I don't see it happening.

Ummm what? Half of the players you listed, aren't going to be traded..

Chicago would rather keep Noah imo... Hes their centerpiece over Rose any day. Hibbert? Heck no, he is not getting moved! Bosh? Seriously doubt he'd re-sign. Griffin/Ibaka are question marks, but Griffin is becoming more and more of the star player the Clippers wanted... Ibaka? Maybe. But none of those packages are even anything valuable, especially when you consider the fact only a half of them are superstars. What we can offer is a plethora of draft picks, Sullinger who may be a 3-4 time Allstar, and decent players in return..

Honestly I don't even know who else can trump our offers..

You can cross off Ibaka too - I don't see OKC committing themselves to 3 max deals.

Noah maybe, but he's an FA in 2016 - don't see him resigning. No way Bosh resigns. Hibbert is also slated to be an FA in 2015, bet he bolts.

[Monkhouse]

As a Celts fan, thinking about Love in green is exciting.

However, I don't find it very realistic.

There's no more Kevin McHale in Minny to give Danny a sweetheart deal.

On top of that if I am Minnesota, I don't really find a package of Sullinger, Bradley, Green, picks or whatever to be a very enticing package.

It might sound enticing to us because we want Minny to say yes, but I don't think they do.

Especially when a team like Chicago could offer Joakim Noah for Love to go along with Derrick Rose, Indiana could offer Roy Hibbert for Love to go along with Paul George, etc.

Miami could offer Chalmers and Bosh to pair up Love with Lebron and Wade and the Clippers could offer Blake Griffin for Love to pair up with Chris Paul, if they don't win the west this year.

OKC could offer Serge Ibaka for Love.

Just saying that when you compare our "assets" to what other teams could offer, it's not that enticing.

I could be wrong and hope I am.

Now when Love hits free agency in 2015, that COULD be a different story.

But as for a trade, I don't see it happening.

Ummm what? Half of the players you listed, aren't going to be traded..

Chicago would rather keep Noah imo... Hes their centerpiece over Rose any day. Hibbert? Heck no, he is not getting moved! Bosh? Seriously doubt he'd re-sign. Griffin/Ibaka are question marks, but Griffin is becoming more and more of the star player the Clippers wanted... Ibaka? Maybe. But none of those packages are even anything valuable, especially when you consider the fact only a half of them are superstars. What we can offer is a plethora of draft picks, Sullinger who may be a 3-4 time Allstar, and decent players in return..

Honestly I don't even know who else can trump our offers..

You can cross off Ibaka too - I don't see OKC committing themselves to 3 max deals.

Noah maybe, but he's an FA in 2016 - don't see him resigning. No way Bosh resigns. Hibbert is also slated to be an FA in 2015, bet he bolts.

You think Hibbert will bolt Pacers? Noah bolt the Bulls too? I think all 3 of them will stay with their current teams as is. Bosh will probably pursue another team where he is the go to guy.

[LarBrd33]

I think it depends where our pick ends up.

Lakers are in excellent position to trade for Love on draft day.  They have a worse record than we do and their team should remain worse for the rest of the season. 

[gpap]

As a Celts fan, thinking about Love in green is exciting.

However, I don't find it very realistic.

There's no more Kevin McHale in Minny to give Danny a sweetheart deal.

On top of that if I am Minnesota, I don't really find a package of Sullinger, Bradley, Green, picks or whatever to be a very enticing package.

It might sound enticing to us because we want Minny to say yes, but I don't think they do.

Especially when a team like Chicago could offer Joakim Noah for Love to go along with Derrick Rose, Indiana could offer Roy Hibbert for Love to go along with Paul George, etc.

Miami could offer Chalmers and Bosh to pair up Love with Lebron and Wade and the Clippers could offer Blake Griffin for Love to pair up with Chris Paul, if they don't win the west this year.

OKC could offer Serge Ibaka for Love.

Just saying that when you compare our "assets" to what other teams could offer, it's not that enticing.

I could be wrong and hope I am.

Now when Love hits free agency in 2015, that COULD be a different story.

But as for a trade, I don't see it happening.

Ummm what? Half of the players you listed, aren't going to be traded..

Chicago would rather keep Noah imo... Hes their centerpiece over Rose any day. Hibbert? Heck no, he is not getting moved! Bosh? Seriously doubt he'd re-sign. Griffin/Ibaka are question marks, but Griffin is becoming more and more of the star player the Clippers wanted... Ibaka? Maybe. But none of those packages are even anything valuable, especially when you consider the fact only a half of them are superstars. What we can offer is a plethora of draft picks, Sullinger who may be a 3-4 time Allstar, and decent players in return..

Honestly I don't even know who else can trump our offers..

I was just trying to make the point that IF other teams wanted to jump in and trade for Love, they would have more to offer.

NOW, if say any of the teams that have a superstar don't want to trade for Love and only crappy teams do like the Bucks, Bobcats, etc, then I think our offer becomes that much more appealing.

I was just looking at it from the perspective of just like we'd love to have Love as our new go to guy along with Rondo, other teams might look at him as the final piece to their puzzle.

[RJ87]

As a Celts fan, thinking about Love in green is exciting.

However, I don't find it very realistic.

There's no more Kevin McHale in Minny to give Danny a sweetheart deal.

On top of that if I am Minnesota, I don't really find a package of Sullinger, Bradley, Green, picks or whatever to be a very enticing package.

It might sound enticing to us because we want Minny to say yes, but I don't think they do.

Especially when a team like Chicago could offer Joakim Noah for Love to go along with Derrick Rose, Indiana could offer Roy Hibbert for Love to go along with Paul George, etc.

Miami could offer Chalmers and Bosh to pair up Love with Lebron and Wade and the Clippers could offer Blake Griffin for Love to pair up with Chris Paul, if they don't win the west this year.

OKC could offer Serge Ibaka for Love.

Just saying that when you compare our "assets" to what other teams could offer, it's not that enticing.

I could be wrong and hope I am.

Now when Love hits free agency in 2015, that COULD be a different story.

But as for a trade, I don't see it happening.

Ummm what? Half of the players you listed, aren't going to be traded..

Chicago would rather keep Noah imo... Hes their centerpiece over Rose any day. Hibbert? Heck no, he is not getting moved! Bosh? Seriously doubt he'd re-sign. Griffin/Ibaka are question marks, but Griffin is becoming more and more of the star player the Clippers wanted... Ibaka? Maybe. But none of those packages are even anything valuable, especially when you consider the fact only a half of them are superstars. What we can offer is a plethora of draft picks, Sullinger who may be a 3-4 time Allstar, and decent players in return..

Honestly I don't even know who else can trump our offers..

You can cross off Ibaka too - I don't see OKC committing themselves to 3 max deals.

Noah maybe, but he's an FA in 2016 - don't see him resigning. No way Bosh resigns. Hibbert is also slated to be an FA in 2015, bet he bolts.

You think Hibbert will bolt Pacers? Noah bolt the Bulls too? I think all 3 of them will stay with their current teams as is. Bosh will probably pursue another team where he is the go to guy.

I was walking about them resigning with Minny.

[D.o.s.]

they gave us Garnett before, why not another Kevin

Because the Kevin that gave us the last Kevin is no longer there to give us the new Kevin.

Make sense?

TP.

[KGs Knee]

I think it depends where our pick ends up.

Lakers are in excellent position to trade for Love on draft day.  They have a worse record than we do and their team should remain worse for the rest of the season.

I'm pretty sure the Lakers are actually in a pretty bad spot for making any draft day trades.  They have only Kobe and Nash as decent sized contracts to trade that aren't expiring deals.  They will also still be using this season's cap number, so they can't just absorb salary.  Basically, they're dead in the water on draft day (unless someone is actually willing to pay Nash's buyout).