With the 5th pick in the 2014 NBA Draft the Boston Celtics Select.....

[CFAN38]

I think any pick outside of the top 4 puts Danny in a position to have to make some tough decisions. I think at 5 the pick has to be Smart (assuming exum goes 4). This pick sets in place a few possible situations.

1. Draft Smart, trade him to Orlando. Assuming they get Embiid, Parker or Wiggins they would then love to land smart to man the back court with Oladipo. Maybe a package of Afflalo, Harkless and a their 2nd first for SMart? This would be the first step in building a solid but not spectacular playoff team. Rondo, Afflalo, Green, Sully and Hopefully a player like Asik would be a solid 3rd team in the east.

2. Draft Smart, Trade him and sully with picks in package for Love. Team would have two stars to build around.

3. Draft Smart, Trade Rondo. Pull in young talent and picks for Rondo and go for longer term rebuild around Smart.

With a top 4 pick I think DA avoids any drastic moves and lets Rondo lead the young core of Sully, AB, Pick and KO as they develop.

[slamtheking]

Barring trades that clean house talent-wise and/or a lucky draw in the lottery, we'll probably be picking about 8th.

however, if we get the 5th pick, I'm thinking more and more that Danny trades it for an established young player and another first rounder a little later in the draft. 

If we ended up with a top 4 pick, I think Danny keeps the player as a building block but after that, I think the pick becomes a trade asset where we get a couple of good pieces for it and then look to the 2015 draft to pick up that next building block because we'd probably still be bad while many of the teams worse than us will have gotten that boost from this draft to surpass us.

[boscel33]

I say:

Vonleh
Randle
Gary Harris
Aaron Gordon
Dario Saric

Then ugh.  You basically have to draft Randle 6th because he really is the best prospect at that point, as unattractive as it is to have another t-rex armed undersized PF.  Then it gets dicier, I like Gary Harris but I wouldn't be upset with Aaron Gordon.  I like Dario Saric a lot too, but I understand why people are luke warm on him.

Not to single you out, but I get a little tired of the criticism of Randle's so called alligator arms.  His arm length is about the same as Kevin Love, arguably the best rebounder in the NBA, and significantly longer than Larry Bird's length.  I think he had a pretty good career.

Larry bird was a SF

KL and Randle are pf's.  KL is more like a point PF. Something Randle is not.

Weak response.

Both Love and Bird were very strong rebounders despite lacking long arms.  All this nonsense of arm length is greatly exaggerated.   

Bird and KLove have a lot more range than Randle and are better passers with high b'ball IQ. I like Randle but his game is more built around strength and muscle. He won;t be able to muscle NBA players in the same way

Charles Barkley!  6'5" PF  Rebounding is a mentality, not always about physical measurements.  You have to want to go inside and get it.  Look at Rondo, one of the better rebounding PG's out there, 6'1" or so.  Randle is a 6'9" PF with a 6'11" wingspan.  With his body size, he should be able to carve out space in the paint for the boards.

[ddb]

5th pick.  hmmm.  If Ainge misses out on Top 3 I feel like a deal around #5/Sully for Love (opting in or extending) makes sense. 

Rondo/Love duo then you build out from there. 

Hard to say until we know what Ainge does at the deadline....if anything. 

he could also go in the other direction and trade Rondo for another lottery pick + young player and draft multiple lottery players to grow grassroots

[AidaCelt]

I say:

Vonleh
Randle
Gary Harris
Aaron Gordon
Dario Saric

Then ugh.  You basically have to draft Randle 6th because he really is the best prospect at that point, as unattractive as it is to have another t-rex armed undersized PF.  Then it gets dicier, I like Gary Harris but I wouldn't be upset with Aaron Gordon.  I like Dario Saric a lot too, but I understand why people are luke warm on him.

Not to single you out, but I get a little tired of the criticism of Randle's so called alligator arms.  His arm length is about the same as Kevin Love, arguably the best rebounder in the NBA, and significantly longer than Larry Bird's length.  I think he had a pretty good career.

Larry bird was a SF

KL and Randle are pf's.  KL is more like a point PF. Something Randle is not.

Weak response.

Both Love and Bird were very strong rebounders despite lacking long arms.  All this nonsense of arm length is greatly exaggerated.   

Bird and KLove have a lot more range than Randle and are better passers with high b'ball IQ. I like Randle but his game is more built around strength and muscle. He won;t be able to muscle NBA players in the same way

Charles Barkley!  6'5" PF  Rebounding is a mentality, not always about physical measurements.  You have to want to go inside and get it.  Look at Rondo, one of the better rebounding PG's out there, 6'1" or so.  Randle is a 6'9" PF with a 6'11" wingspan.  With his body size, he should be able to carve out space in the paint for the boards.

I thought of Barkley as well as a comparison to Randle. How many undersized PF's excel in the NBA though? Barkley, Rodman... ummm... Sully. It would be unbelievable if Randle was even half the player Barkley was.

[SHAQATTACK]

We need to be bad enough to get a good prospect

Players job is to play hard , put on a good show

It's in Danny's hands ....he is Stevens boss   ....he runs the show


This is something the GM  can and should be doing ....positioning for a top three pic


If he doesn't ......

In my mind  as an owner ...he has failed.

[chambers]

I'd pray that Exum is available. You then have to go for the best player available if none of the consensus top 4 are still around.
Either Smart or Randle but both are high risk guys.
By drafting Smart, I think the door for trading Rondo opens much wider.
Draft smart at 5, move Rondo to another team in the lottery top 10 like Charlotte for their pick and assets go after Randle or Vonleh and stick them next to Sully.
We then have the Brooklyn pick at around 18 and we could move up nicely to get someone Danny wants with huge upside. (Cauley stein)?

I'd then take a flyer on Chris Walker and make a move to grab him somehow from a team with an early 2nd rounder.

In a 99% unlikely scenario we'd blooooowww this roster to shells and go the OKC/Seattle route and develop young talent while attempting to draft huge/lucky for 2-3 years. This 2014 draft being year one.

Smart,
draft SG or high upside guy at #18
Walker
Sully
Vonleh

Total ground up rebuild for Stevens to work with for 4 years. We can keep taking back bad salary and getting more picks and adding veterans to help locker room growth/ discipline.

Hit 15,16 drafts with top 5 picks and most likely(knock on wood) we'll get a few All Star level guys with Danny's drafting prowess.
Rebuilds are generally long and painful roller coasters. Luckily we've got an elite GM.

[manl_lui]

no, not the 5h pick of the 2014 NBA draft

this will be Celtics and Lakers rivalry part 4! Bird vs Magic v.2

With the first pick of the 2014 NBA draft, the Boston Celtics select Jabari Parker

With the second pick of the 2014 NBA draft, the LA Lakers select Andrew Wiggins

for the next 10-15 years, you will see the Celtics vs Lakers finals again. Lebron starts declining, Miami starts disbanding their big 3. 8 NBA finals in 10 years, with Celtics coming out on top 5/8 times.

Rivalry revived!

[danglertx]

I say:

Vonleh
Randle
Gary Harris
Aaron Gordon
Dario Saric

Then ugh.  You basically have to draft Randle 6th because he really is the best prospect at that point, as unattractive as it is to have another t-rex armed undersized PF.  Then it gets dicier, I like Gary Harris but I wouldn't be upset with Aaron Gordon.  I like Dario Saric a lot too, but I understand why people are luke warm on him.

Not to single you out, but I get a little tired of the criticism of Randle's so called alligator arms.  His arm length is about the same as Kevin Love, arguably the best rebounder in the NBA, and significantly longer than Larry Bird's length.  I think he had a pretty good career.

Larry bird was a SF

KL and Randle are pf's.  KL is more like a point PF. Something Randle is not.

Weak response.

Both Love and Bird were very strong rebounders despite lacking long arms.  All this nonsense of arm length is greatly exaggerated.   

Bird and KLove have a lot more range than Randle and are better passers with high b'ball IQ. I like Randle but his game is more built around strength and muscle. He won;t be able to muscle NBA players in the same way

Charles Barkley!  6'5" PF  Rebounding is a mentality, not always about physical measurements.  You have to want to go inside and get it.  Look at Rondo, one of the better rebounding PG's out there, 6'1" or so.  Randle is a 6'9" PF with a 6'11" wingspan.  With his body size, he should be able to carve out space in the paint for the boards.

I thought of Barkley as well as a comparison to Randle. How many undersized PF's excel in the NBA though? Barkley, Rodman... ummm... Sully. It would be unbelievable if Randle was even half the player Barkley was.

If you are talking about excelling at rebounding, how long do you have?  Faried?  Kevin Love is at least athletically challenged.  In history, how about Larry Johnson, Oscar Robinson, Larry Bird, and you could go on and on and on.  Rebounding is about quick leaping, timing, and want more than just size.

[AidaCelt]

I say:

Vonleh
Randle
Gary Harris
Aaron Gordon
Dario Saric

Then ugh.  You basically have to draft Randle 6th because he really is the best prospect at that point, as unattractive as it is to have another t-rex armed undersized PF.  Then it gets dicier, I like Gary Harris but I wouldn't be upset with Aaron Gordon.  I like Dario Saric a lot too, but I understand why people are luke warm on him.

Not to single you out, but I get a little tired of the criticism of Randle's so called alligator arms.  His arm length is about the same as Kevin Love, arguably the best rebounder in the NBA, and significantly longer than Larry Bird's length.  I think he had a pretty good career.

Larry bird was a SF

KL and Randle are pf's.  KL is more like a point PF. Something Randle is not.

Weak response.

Both Love and Bird were very strong rebounders despite lacking long arms.  All this nonsense of arm length is greatly exaggerated.   

Bird and KLove have a lot more range than Randle and are better passers with high b'ball IQ. I like Randle but his game is more built around strength and muscle. He won;t be able to muscle NBA players in the same way

Charles Barkley!  6'5" PF  Rebounding is a mentality, not always about physical measurements.  You have to want to go inside and get it.  Look at Rondo, one of the better rebounding PG's out there, 6'1" or so.  Randle is a 6'9" PF with a 6'11" wingspan.  With his body size, he should be able to carve out space in the paint for the boards.

I thought of Barkley as well as a comparison to Randle. How many undersized PF's excel in the NBA though? Barkley, Rodman... ummm... Sully. It would be unbelievable if Randle was even half the player Barkley was.

If you are talking about excelling at rebounding, how long do you have?  Faried?  Kevin Love is at least athletically challenged.  In history, how about Larry Johnson, Oscar Robinson, Larry Bird, and you could go on and on and on.  Rebounding is about quick leaping, timing, and want more than just size.

I wasn't referring to rebounding only. Faried is an undersized power player both rebounding and offensively minded. Larry did play near the rim but yes, rebounding wise was above average. Oscar Robinson? Who is that? The big O wasn't a PF. I already mentioned KLove. He plays a different game though because he has so much range.

I may be totally wrong as I haven't seen a hell of a lot of Randle but I don't see him having the same range as Larry, KLove etc.

[scotto1205]

I like the idea of wiggins at the 3. Draft cauley-stein with out 2nd first bring back Bradley. If we resign Humphries to a decent price and bring back Bradley we would look like

Rondo-Bradley-wiggins-Sullinger and split the minutes at center between fav wcs Olynk and Humphries . If wiggins can become a bonified star by 2015 we resign rondo and bring in a center we are set. You never know maybe wcs turns into a Tyson chandler type. I would also like to get Mcdermitt somehow as our 6th man

[vjcsmoke]

Just to have a shot at Wiggins you need a top 3 pick.  The top 3 could be any of Parker, Wiggins, Embiid.  I'm not sure we are lucky enough to get top 3.  And the draft has screwed us before *cough* Duncan *cough*

If we get Exum you have to ask yourself immediately is this guy our PG of the future?  If so Rondo becomes expendable BUT only if we can get good value for him.  Maybe a top 3 pick in next year's draft?

PS I'd trade Bradley to move up in the draft.  And then use the cap space to sign Lance Stephenson.

Imagine this lineup:

1. Rondo
2. Stephenson
3. Wiggins
4. Sully
5. KO or draftee