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Go after Jimmer Fredette
« on: February 13, 2014, 09:16:07 AM »

Offline Monkhouse

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Jimmer has been on the trade block for a while now. Hes shooting 49.3 percent on 36-73 3 pointers... A league best. Now before you guys say, terrible handles, can't lay it in, can't pass, etc, etc. You don't make Fredette handle or play point guard. You let him fire it off from the 3 point line after being set some good screens.

I can see Danny wanting Fredette for 3 reasons.

1) Low risk, high upside kind of guy. Probably get or net him with a 2nd rounder, or possibly a 3 way trade.

2) 3 point specialist, who has shown to be a very great character especially at BYU.

I once had court side tickets given to me, courtesy of PNC bank for Wizards vs Kings. Jimmer doesn't even get treated like a teammate there... They goof around with other people, but throughout the entire game, practice, and pre-game warm ups and all. Fredette just dribbled in a corner, shot some 3's, and basically looked quiet the entire night. When I mean literally the teammates didn't even talk to Fredette. Cousins was surprised to notice Fredette was there when he sort of tripped over his sprawled foot, and Cousins seemed surprised, glanced at Fredette, they both shared eye contact for a few seconds, and Cousins walked to his spot without saying anything to him at all. I felt bad for him, because this guy deserves a little more... He averages about 11.5 MPG. His lowest ever. His PER 36 is 18.6.

3) Mormon.

Fredette actually leads the NBA in shooting percentage between 25 and 29 feet (more than 25 attempts), making 22-of-41 such shots (53.7 percent).

Like I said, you add Fredette so he can add more range to the 3 point line.
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I don't know what we can offer.

But Fredette will be a free agent later this year. If the Kings don't trade him, and he doesn't sign any extension, which I doubt considering the Kings declined his rookie option.

Then I hope, and pray to God that DA picks him up.

No matter what you guys criticize about Fredette, adding him would add the 3 point range to any team that desperately needs it.
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Re: Go after Jimmer Fredette
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2014, 09:31:27 AM »

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Jimmer has been on the trade block for a while now. Hes shooting 49.3 percent on 36-73 3 pointers... A league best. Now before you guys say, terrible handles, can't lay it in, can't pass, etc, etc. You don't make Fredette handle or play point guard. You let him fire it off from the 3 point line after being set some good screens.

I can see Danny wanting Fredette for 3 reasons.

1) Low risk, high upside kind of guy. Probably get or net him with a 2nd rounder, or possibly a 3 way trade.

2) 3 point specialist, who has shown to be a very great character especially at BYU. I once had court side tickets given to me, courtesy of PNC bank for Wizards vs Kings. Jimmer doesn't even get treated like a teammate there... They goof around with other people, but throughout the entire game, practice, and pre-game warm ups and all. Fredette just dribbled in a corner, shot some 3's, and basically looked quiet the entire night. I felt bad for him, because this guy deserves a little more...

3) Mormon.

Fredette actually leads the NBA in shooting percentage between 25 and 29 feet (more than 25 attempts), making 22-of-41 such shots (53.7 percent).

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I don't know what we can offer.

But Fredette will be a free agent later this year. If the Kings don't trade him, and he doesn't sign any extension, which I doubt considering the Kings declined his rookie option.

Then I hope, and pray to God that DA picks him up.

No matter what you guys criticize about Fredette, adding him would add the 3 point range to any team that desperately needs it.
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I can see Danny wanting Fredette for 3 reasons.
1) Low risk, high upside kind of guy. Probably get or net him with a 2nd rounder, or possibly a 3 way trade.
--> there is no upside with Jimmer.  he is what he is -- a guy that can shoot if left open but not much else.  you said it yourself "terrible handles, can't lay it in, can't pass, etc, etc. You don't make Fredette handle or play point guard."  if he plays guard, he's still going to handle the ball at time.  when Jimmer's on the court, the other team plays prevent D to keep the ball away from the PG and force Jimmer to bring it up and start the offense which will most likely kill the offense.

2) 3 point specialist, who has shown to be a very great character especially at BYU.
-->a player has to be more than 1-dimensional on a team.  don't care about his character as long as he's not a locker room headache.  lots of players fit that description.  getting along in the locker room is not the reason to trade for someone

3) Mormon.

-->Really?  Seriously?  you have this as a reason Danny should trade for him?   ::) 

How about we find a player fitting these 3 criteria as someone Danny should acquire
- efficient scorer
- plays solid defense
- good ballhandler.
It's not setting the bar very high but it's well out of Jimmer's range of abilities

Re: Go after Jimmer Fredette
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2014, 09:33:53 AM »

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This team doesn't need an Eddie House type right now.

Re: Go after Jimmer Fredette
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2014, 10:00:36 AM »

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I like him too, but we're homeless right now and you are picking out wallpaper.

If the league's best open-shot-shooters competed in the 3-point contest, I think he'd have to be in it.

Re: Go after Jimmer Fredette
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2014, 01:15:12 PM »

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There's no need to give up anything in a trade for a player who is likely to be available for the minimum this summer.
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Re: Go after Jimmer Fredette
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2014, 01:20:08 PM »

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There's no need to give up anything in a trade for a player who is likely to be available for the minimum this summer.
Minimum wage working at the concession stands more likely  ;)

Re: Go after Jimmer Fredette
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2014, 02:56:27 PM »

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A lot of you guys ate wrong about Jimmer just as I said you were wrong about Gerald Green. But I'll save that for another post. But Jimmer does has decent handles, he can't play defense but either can 75% of the league. Nash won 2 or 3 MVPs playing no defense. He is an great asset thats lost on a team full of ball hogs! Cousins, I.Thomas, Rudy Gay & Marcus Thornton is the worst batch of gunners to ever team together. Because they are gunners who aren't very efficient. No bullets left to be fired when Jimmer enters the game & he just can't be himself which is give an inch & a open shooting hand & the shot is going up! I believe if he was in Avery Bradley spot in our offense he'd average 18-22 points a game & easily! Now he may give up 6-8 more a game to the opposition than AB gives up but I never said he's a defender, he's a natural scorer still capable of going for 40 plus pts in certain games. I would not mind at all trying Jimmer out the 2nd half of the season for cheap.

Re: Go after Jimmer Fredette
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2014, 03:25:57 PM »

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There's no need to give up anything in a trade for a player who is likely to be available for the minimum this summer.
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Re: Go after Jimmer Fredette
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2014, 03:35:41 PM »

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My goodness, people love to hate Olynyk, I can only imagine the kind of vitriol you'd see spewed forth at Jimmer Fredette if he came here.
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Re: Go after Jimmer Fredette
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2014, 03:56:49 PM »

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I like him too, but we're homeless right now and you are picking out wallpaper.

If the league's best open-shot-shooters competed in the 3-point contest, I think he'd have to be in it.

Great analogy!
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Re: Go after Jimmer Fredette
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2014, 03:58:51 PM »

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A lot of you guys ate wrong about Jimmer just as I said you were wrong about Gerald Green. But I'll save that for another post. But Jimmer does has decent handles, he can't play defense but either can 75% of the league. Nash won 2 or 3 MVPs playing no defense. He is an great asset thats lost on a team full of ball hogs! Cousins, I.Thomas, Rudy Gay & Marcus Thornton is the worst batch of gunners to ever team together. Because they are gunners who aren't very efficient. No bullets left to be fired when Jimmer enters the game & he just can't be himself which is give an inch & a open shooting hand & the shot is going up! I believe if he was in Avery Bradley spot in our offense he'd average 18-22 points a game & easily! Now he may give up 6-8 more a game to the opposition than AB gives up but I never said he's a defender, he's a natural scorer still capable of going for 40 plus pts in certain games. I would not mind at all trying Jimmer out the 2nd half of the season for cheap.
I'd rather see what Chris Johnson can do instead.  he's cheaper and does everythiing better than Jimmer with the possible exception of shooting range and even then, Johnson has still looked pretty good at shooting 3s

Re: Go after Jimmer Fredette
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2014, 07:41:59 AM »

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I don't know what we can offer.

But Fredette will be a free agent later this year.

I think you answered you own question. What you offer if you want him is a free agent contract.

Why trade for a guy who is going to be a free agent unless you need him to compete in the current year or you need his bird rights to retain him in free agency. The Celtics aren't competing for anything but a high draft pick this season and they do not need his bird rights to be able to fit any contract he is likely to get in free agency under the cap, so there is no reason to trade for him.

Re: Go after Jimmer Fredette
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2014, 06:56:16 PM »

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A lot of you guys ate wrong about Jimmer just as I said you were wrong about Gerald Green. But I'll save that for another post. But Jimmer does has decent handles, he can't play defense but either can 75% of the league. Nash won 2 or 3 MVPs playing no defense. He is an great asset thats lost on a team full of ball hogs! Cousins, I.Thomas, Rudy Gay & Marcus Thornton is the worst batch of gunners to ever team together. Because they are gunners who aren't very efficient. No bullets left to be fired when Jimmer enters the game & he just can't be himself which is give an inch & a open shooting hand & the shot is going up! I believe if he was in Avery Bradley spot in our offense he'd average 18-22 points a game & easily! Now he may give up 6-8 more a game to the opposition than AB gives up but I never said he's a defender, he's a natural scorer still capable of going for 40 plus pts in certain games. I would not mind at all trying Jimmer out the 2nd half of the season for cheap.
I'd rather see what Chris Johnson can do instead.  he's cheaper and does everythiing better than Jimmer with the possible exception of shooting range and even then, Johnson has still looked pretty good at shooting 3s
Yup and Johnson might even bump AB out. I could see DA moving Bradley at the deadline because I think he is unlikely to match RFA offer from another team in the 7MM range.

The Nash comparison is a poor one because he was ELITE point guard who can shoot, ha incredible court vision and among the best passers in the league. Give Fredette those elite skills and maybe the comparison is valid.

Re: Go after Jimmer Fredette
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2014, 09:35:51 PM »

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I like him too, but we're homeless right now and you are picking out wallpaper.

If the league's best open-shot-shooters competed in the 3-point contest, I think he'd have to be in it.

Great analogy!

Where on earth did you find that picture.
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