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Why keeping Bass makes sense
« on: January 31, 2014, 03:18:36 PM »

Offline rondohondo

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I know a lot of people on here want to move Bass' contract, but I think it makes more sense to keep him. Other than Bogans and Anthony, we have no ther expiring contracts on the team next year if we wanted to try and trade for an all-star to add to rondo ,and I believe Bogans is only non guaranteed for a certain time period.

If we keep Bass we can add his salary to anthonys and have 9 mil in expiring contracts that could really help make a deal happen.

Even if we can't trade him in a package for an all-star, he will still have value to a contending team next year as an expiring contract, and someone who can guards lebron for stretches .

I wouldn't be so quick to move him

It makes more sense to try and package Green and Bradley for Asik and a 1st, or something similar in value IMO.

Get some assets for bradley before he walks in FA
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Re: Why keeping Bass makes sense
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2014, 03:27:35 PM »

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Bogans' contract is fully unguaranteed with no trigger date.
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Re: Why keeping Bass makes sense
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2014, 03:32:43 PM »

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I know a lot of people on here want to move Bass' contract, but I think it makes more sense to keep him. Other than Bogans and Anthony, we have no ther expiring contracts on the team next year if we wanted to try and trade for an all-star to add to rondo ,and I believe Bogans is only non guaranteed for a certain time period.

If we keep Bass we can add his salary to anthonys and have 9 mil in expiring contracts that could really help make a deal happen.

Even if we can't trade him in a package for an all-star, he will still have value to a contending team next year as an expiring contract, and someone who can guards lebron for stretches .

I wouldn't be so quick to move him

It makes more sense to try and package Green and Bradley for Asik and a 1st, or something similar in value IMO.

Get some assets for bradley before he walks in FA
Valid points but you're missing the whole aspect of Sullinger, Olynk needing extra court time. Moving Bass allows Sully to play over 30 minutes a game, something he desperately needs.
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Re: Why keeping Bass makes sense
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2014, 03:38:58 PM »

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Interesting point, TP.

I do think you're onto something. Having one mid-sized expiring contract each year (for someone who's OK but not all that good) actually can increase flexibility.

This hit home for me because this year as I've I looked around on the trade checker for deals the Celts can make with other teams, sometimes the stumbling block is that the other side doesn't have something like that to send back.

Re: Why keeping Bass makes sense
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2014, 03:47:49 PM »

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Bogans' contract is fully unguaranteed with no trigger date.

even better

we can package Bogans, Bass, and Anthony's expiring contract (around 15 mil in expirings) then just add assets like sully and a pick or 2 and you might be able to land a Kevin Love or Marc Gasol.

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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2014, 04:08:28 PM »

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I know a lot of people on here want to move Bass' contract, but I think it makes more sense to keep him. Other than Bogans and Anthony, we have no ther expiring contracts on the team next year if we wanted to try and trade for an all-star to add to rondo ,and I believe Bogans is only non guaranteed for a certain time period.

If we keep Bass we can add his salary to anthonys and have 9 mil in expiring contracts that could really help make a deal happen.

Even if we can't trade him in a package for an all-star, he will still have value to a contending team next year as an expiring contract, and someone who can guards lebron for stretches .

I wouldn't be so quick to move him

It makes more sense to try and package Green and Bradley for Asik and a 1st, or something similar in value IMO.

Get some assets for bradley before he walks in FA
Valid points but you're missing the whole aspect of Sullinger, Olynk needing extra court time. Moving Bass allows Sully to play over 30 minutes a game, something he desperately needs.

He does? How so? He's coming off back surgery and has been battling injuries all season.  If anything, I'd like to see the Celtics sit Sullinger down for a few games until he fully heals his hand.  Let alone increase his flippin' minutes.

Absolutely ridiculous for a rebuilding team not competing for a championship to risk the health of one of their young players.  In January and February regular season games no less.  He's also hurting his trade value with these terrible shooting nights recently that can possibly be attributed to playing with strained tendons in his hand and a dislocated finger.

Re: Why keeping Bass makes sense
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2014, 04:13:29 PM »

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I know a lot of people on here want to move Bass' contract, but I think it makes more sense to keep him. Other than Bogans and Anthony, we have no ther expiring contracts on the team next year if we wanted to try and trade for an all-star to add to rondo ,and I believe Bogans is only non guaranteed for a certain time period.

If we keep Bass we can add his salary to anthonys and have 9 mil in expiring contracts that could really help make a deal happen.

Even if we can't trade him in a package for an all-star, he will still have value to a contending team next year as an expiring contract, and someone who can guards lebron for stretches .

I wouldn't be so quick to move him

It makes more sense to try and package Green and Bradley for Asik and a 1st, or something similar in value IMO.

Get some assets for bradley before he walks in FA
Valid points but you're missing the whole aspect of Sullinger, Olynk needing extra court time. Moving Bass allows Sully to play over 30 minutes a game, something he desperately needs.

He does? How so? He's coming off back surgery and has been battling injuries all season.  If anything, I'd like to see the Celtics sit Sullinger down for a few games until he fully heals his hand.  Let alone increase his flippin' minutes.

Absolutely ridiculous for a rebuilding team not competing for a championship to risk the health of one of their young players.  In January and February regular season games no less.  He's also hurting his trade value with these terrible shooting nights recently that can possibly be attributed to playing with strained tendons in his hand and a dislocated finger.

  He has a bone bruise. I don't think playing with a bruise constitutes risking his health. I also don't think that it's likely some bad shooting nights when he's battling with a hand injury will hurt his trade value. GMs are generally aware that players don't play as well when they're injured, and that they'll recover from their injuries in time.

Re: Why keeping Bass makes sense
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2014, 04:23:54 PM »

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If we keep Bass we can add his salary to anthonys and have 9 mil in expiring contracts that could really help make a deal happen.

$6.9m + $3.8m is a bit more than $9m.
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Re: Why keeping Bass makes sense
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2014, 05:05:38 PM »

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this is a really good point, could also mean that unless DA has a target for this offsean where Bass's $$$ is needed maybe he does stick around or is traded for a less viable player who becomes expiring next year.
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Re: Why keeping Bass makes sense
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2014, 05:39:41 PM »

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Keeping Bass only makes sense if we trade Sully and KO (perhaps with Wallace and a pick) for an established allstar 4 or 5, which isn't a bad idea.

Rondo
Bradley
Green
Bass
Allstar

and now we're talking...

Re: Why keeping Bass makes sense
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2014, 06:13:45 PM »

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Re: Why keeping Bass makes sense
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2014, 06:25:30 PM »

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I agree that bass is useful to the celtics, both as an expiring contract next year, and as an experienced big man on the bench. If humphries leaves this summer, the celtics will be down to bass as the only experienced big that can give you up to 30 minutes per game if needed.

No need to trade him in a salary dump.

But if someone were offering the celtics even a late 1st round pick for him, i would take it.

Green and Bradley might be the hotter pieces to move, if you can get value in return.

Re: Why keeping Bass makes sense
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2014, 06:25:54 PM »

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Please don't let CHIEF read this .......

He might explode  :D

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Yeah this makes about as much sense as higher taxes  .....

Re: Why keeping Bass makes sense
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2014, 06:49:56 PM »

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Agree, it doesn't make much sense at all.