Sully is a manimal

[paidthecost2betheboss]

25pts 20Rb

17pts 19Rb

21pts 14Rb

24pts 17Rb


Man...he is like a WWE wrestler in the paint. He bangs folks the heck up real good. He's got a tude' and folks are learning he'll take his lumps to give some. The narrative of Sully and his return from back surgery and if he'll ever be the same are long long gone. What a steal.



I typed "beastmode" and got this gif.....lol...Google fo ta win!!

[Roy H.]

24 points on 9-for-25 shooting last night. It wasn't his best offensive night.

I like seeing his development, though. Part of that is at times being overly aggressive.

[Celtics4ever]

He like shooting .43% from the field.   I agree, he can produce but usually .50% is the golden standard for good shooters down low.   Greats like Kevin McHale hitting were 60%.  Last year he shot .50%.   He is going to be like manimal and be cancelled if he doesn't shoot better.

I know some think him a star but that low of shooting % he is not.   I know he is playing out of position but a stretch four or five he is not.

[paidthecost2betheboss]

24 points on 9-for-25 shooting last night. It wasn't his best offensive night.

I like seeing his development, though. Part of that is at times being overly aggressive.

I gotta think the locker room is on meltdown mode we just have not been getting the details or folks are giving up. Sully got heart and can shoot. Some of his shots are passes to him with little time and him seemingly anywhere. The playbook seems to lack plays for him. I don't recall actually seeing him get what looks like plays. Everybody is not having contract years. I think his % is in context with the big picture. I love his ability....it's an ability...to get those 20 boards. If we had scorers and he was asked to battle and bruise and got 8pts and 20 boards I'd be thrilled. He can obviously do that. We got no real 5 and he has poor elevation which speaks to his boxing out and positioning. He gives some wicked fouls. For a dude his size he acts like he's bigger. He was shoving hibbert outta frustration. Dude is fearless. Like the anti Jeff Green. Can't teach some stuff. Hitches in shots can be taught to a kid who grew up around the game but being mean is a trait you can't teach as easy. He said his brother fouled him harder than anyone in the N.B.A ever could so he ain't worried. He don't look it either.

I hope he is around when we get out of this hole.

[slamtheking]

He like shooting .43% from the field.   I agree, he can produce but usually .50% is the golden standard for good shooters down low.   Greats like Kevin McHale hitting were 60%.  Last year he shot .50%.   He is going to be like manimal and be cancelled if he doesn't shoot better.

I know some think him a star but that low of shooting % he is not.   I know he is playing out of position but a stretch four or five he is not.

I attribute the lower percentage to the hand injury.  when he's healthy, that percentage goes up

[sofutomygaha]

The whole team is shooting so poorly that I hardly know how to make sense of it.

Sullinger is among the worst.

He's definitely a manimal when it comes to fighting for boards and put-backs. Hopefully his shooting problems have more to do with the hist injury, the Celtics ball movement, spacing, and lack of 3-point threats than they do with his own shot selection, athleticism, and mechanics.

[Monkhouse]

24 points on 9-for-25 shooting last night. It wasn't his best offensive night.

I like seeing his development, though. Part of that is at times being overly aggressive.

I gotta think the locker room is on meltdown mode we just have not been getting the details or folks are giving up. Sully got heart and can shoot. Some of his shots are passes to him with little time and him seemingly anywhere. The playbook seems to lack plays for him. I don't recall actually seeing him get what looks like plays. Everybody is not having contract years. I think his % is in context with the big picture. I love his ability....it's an ability...to get those 20 boards. If we had scorers and he was asked to battle and bruise and got 8pts and 20 boards I'd be thrilled. He can obviously do that. We got no real 5 and he has poor elevation which speaks to his boxing out and positioning. He gives some wicked fouls. For a dude his size he acts like he's bigger. He was shoving hibbert outta frustration. Dude is fearless. Like the anti Jeff Green. Can't teach some stuff. Hitches in shots can be taught to a kid who grew up around the game but being mean is a trait you can't teach as easy. He said his brother fouled him harder than anyone in the N.B.A ever could so he ain't worried. He don't look it either.

I hope he is around when we get out of this hole.

I agree.

I also hope he develops a 3 point shot, and can remain consistent/healthy so we can trade him for Kevin Love. 

[NikoZea]

The whole team is shooting so poorly that I hardly know how to make sense of it.

Sullinger is among the worst.

He's definitely a manimal when it comes to fighting for boards and put-backs. Hopefully his shooting problems have more to do with the hist injury, the Celtics ball movement, spacing, and lack of 3-point threats than they do with his own shot selection, athleticism, and mechanics.

Stats are misleading. A missed shot was like when he tried to tip the shot back in and missed and Hump was able to get it. Sully kept it alive but that counts against his efficiency. Stats lie.

Plus he has an injured shooting hand. He shoots with good mechanics and doesn't really get fed a bunch. He isn't the worst. He's their hlbest prospect right now.

[D.o.s.]

The whole team is shooting so poorly that I hardly know how to make sense of it.

Sullinger is among the worst.

He's definitely a manimal when it comes to fighting for boards and put-backs. Hopefully his shooting problems have more to do with the hist injury, the Celtics ball movement, spacing, and lack of 3-point threats than they do with his own shot selection, athleticism, and mechanics.

Stats are misleading. A missed shot was like when he tried to tip the shot back in and missed and Hump was able to get it. Sully kept it alive but that counts against his efficiency. Stats lie.

Plus he has an injured shooting hand. He shoots with good mechanics and doesn't really get fed a bunch. He isn't the worst. He's their hlbest prospect right now.

Stat's don't lie, they just aren't great for blindly spouting.

Here's a shot chart for Sully over the last 30 days:

http://vorped.com/bball/index.php/player/shotchart/1464-Jared-Sullinger

While he's shooting 37.9% overall, that's helped by his put backs--he's shooting a putrid 22% on his jump shots, and his shooting percentage is saved by his tip ins--where he shoots 64%--and his layups/dunks (50% and 66%, respectively).

So, no, stats aren't misleading. Sully's jumper is awful right now.

[BballTim]

The whole team is shooting so poorly that I hardly know how to make sense of it.

Sullinger is among the worst.

He's definitely a manimal when it comes to fighting for boards and put-backs. Hopefully his shooting problems have more to do with the hist injury, the Celtics ball movement, spacing, and lack of 3-point threats than they do with his own shot selection, athleticism, and mechanics.

Stats are misleading. A missed shot was like when he tried to tip the shot back in and missed and Hump was able to get it. Sully kept it alive but that counts against his efficiency. Stats lie.

Plus he has an injured shooting hand. He shoots with good mechanics and doesn't really get fed a bunch. He isn't the worst. He's their hlbest prospect right now.

Stat's don't lie, they just aren't great for blindly spouting.

Here's a shot chart for Sully over the last 30 days:

http://vorped.com/bball/index.php/player/shotchart/1464-Jared-Sullinger

While he's shooting 37.9% overall, that's helped by his put backs--he's shooting a putrid 22% on his jump shots, and his shooting percentage is saved by his tip ins--where he shoots 64%--and his layups/dunks (50% and 66%, respectively).

So, no, stats aren't misleading. Sully's jumper is awful right now.

  You have to consider that different websites can have slightly (or significantly) different stats. According to that page 7.4% of Sully's shots on the season have been tips and he's made 70% of them. According to 82games 5% of Sully's shots this season have been tips and he's made 48% of them. In terms of overall numbers they'll match, it's not like one website will say he's taken 200 total shots and another will say 250, but what category individual shots fall into are in the eye of the beholder.

[D.o.s.]

That's true, but the nice thing about vorped is their filters--so when we're talking about jump shots, you can see every one of what they consider to be a jump shot on the chart.

One positive takeaway is that Sully's shooting pretty strongly in the Morey Cluster--three's and at the rim.

[moiso]

24 points on 9-for-25 shooting last night. It wasn't his best offensive night.

I like seeing his development, though. Part of that is at times being overly aggressive.

I gotta think the locker room is on meltdown mode we just have not been getting the details or folks are giving up. Sully got heart and can shoot. Some of his shots are passes to him with little time and him seemingly anywhere. The playbook seems to lack plays for him. I don't recall actually seeing him get what looks like plays. Everybody is not having contract years. I think his % is in context with the big picture. I love his ability....it's an ability...to get those 20 boards. If we had scorers and he was asked to battle and bruise and got 8pts and 20 boards I'd be thrilled. He can obviously do that. We got no real 5 and he has poor elevation which speaks to his boxing out and positioning. He gives some wicked fouls. For a dude his size he acts like he's bigger. He was shoving hibbert outta frustration. Dude is fearless. Like the anti Jeff Green. Can't teach some stuff. Hitches in shots can be taught to a kid who grew up around the game but being mean is a trait you can't teach as easy. He said his brother fouled him harder than anyone in the N.B.A ever could so he ain't worried. He don't look it either.

I hope he is around when we get out of this hole.

I agree.

I also hope he develops a 3 point shot, and can remain consistent/healthy so we can trade him for Kevin Love. 

He hasn't developed a 3 point shot yet but that sure hasn't kept him from launching them.  I'd like him to get better at them before having the green light to jack them up. 

[Fred Roberts]

He's still kinda roley poley though. I'd like to see him get diesed up a little more.

[NikoZea]

The whole team is shooting so poorly that I hardly know how to make sense of it.

Sullinger is among the worst.

He's definitely a manimal when it comes to fighting for boards and put-backs. Hopefully his shooting problems have more to do with the hist injury, the Celtics ball movement, spacing, and lack of 3-point threats than they do with his own shot selection, athleticism, and mechanics.

Stats are misleading. A missed shot was like when he tried to tip the shot back in and missed and Hump was able to get it. Sully kept it alive but that counts against his efficiency. Stats lie.

Plus he has an injured shooting hand. He shoots with good mechanics and doesn't really get fed a bunch. He isn't the worst. He's their hlbest prospect right now.

Stat's don't lie, they just aren't great for blindly spouting.

Here's a shot chart for Sully over the last 30 days:

http://vorped.com/bball/index.php/player/shotchart/1464-Jared-Sullinger

While he's shooting 37.9% overall, that's helped by his put backs--he's shooting a putrid 22% on his jump shots, and his shooting percentage is saved by his tip ins--where he shoots 64%--and his layups/dunks (50% and 66%, respectively).

So, no, stats aren't misleading. Sully's jumper is awful right now.

Also when I say stats are misleading, I mean you have to actually watch his mechanics and release as opposed to just pointing to a metric. He's young and playing through injury, so saying a jumper is awful based on stats alone is not enough when evaluating a player's strengths.

[cman88]

24 points on 9-for-25 shooting last night. It wasn't his best offensive night.

I like seeing his development, though. Part of that is at times being overly aggressive.

I gotta think the locker room is on meltdown mode we just have not been getting the details or folks are giving up. Sully got heart and can shoot. Some of his shots are passes to him with little time and him seemingly anywhere. The playbook seems to lack plays for him. I don't recall actually seeing him get what looks like plays. Everybody is not having contract years. I think his % is in context with the big picture. I love his ability....it's an ability...to get those 20 boards. If we had scorers and he was asked to battle and bruise and got 8pts and 20 boards I'd be thrilled. He can obviously do that. We got no real 5 and he has poor elevation which speaks to his boxing out and positioning. He gives some wicked fouls. For a dude his size he acts like he's bigger. He was shoving hibbert outta frustration. Dude is fearless. Like the anti Jeff Green. Can't teach some stuff. Hitches in shots can be taught to a kid who grew up around the game but being mean is a trait you can't teach as easy. He said his brother fouled him harder than anyone in the N.B.A ever could so he ain't worried. He don't look it either.

I hope he is around when we get out of this hole.

I agree.

I also hope he develops a 3 point shot, and can remain consistent/healthy so we can trade him for Kevin Love. 

He hasn't developed a 3 point shot yet but that sure hasn't kept him from launching them.  I'd like him to get better at them before having the green light to jack them up.

we arent winning anything this year. I hope he keeps launching them. this year is about development...plus, the more bricks he throws up, the more we lose.