Why I'm Disappointed

[bcgenuis]

I was not expecting much of anything from the Celtics this year in terms of wins or making the playoffs.  However, I was expecting to see significant development of at least one of the younger players on the team and hoping one would become an alpha dog stepping up and becoming a 18+ ppg player. 

I'm looking at you Jeff Green, Avery Bradley, Sullinger and to a lesser extent Olynyk and Faverani.

Jeff Green - How Jeff Green is not taking 18+ shots a game I don't understand.  Until this point I had high hopes for Uncle Jeff that he would stop being afraid of his shadow and come to play every night and put up 19/6/3 I thought it would certainly happen this year.  I am terribly disappointed in his play.  His play shows that he is no more than a third or fourth option on a team. And to make matters worse this is true even on a team than does not have a #1 or #2 option. 

Jared Sullinger - OK, he is coming off surgery and recently injured his hand. That being said, since Green did not become the alpha dog. I was hoping to see Sully step up and become a go to force on offense.  It has happened a few times this year but not consistently enough.  He should be getting 30+ minutes a night and developing into a consistent double-double threat 16/10. Disappointed with Sully's limited minutes, shooting percentage, shot selection (too many 3's) and that he is injured.  (I also realize that there is a glut of PFs on the roster.)

Avery Bradley - probably the least to complain about.  He stepped up, was taking shots problem was that Bradley was not consistent at making them (43%/36% 3P).  Although I note that for AB it was a significant increase in his shooting percentages. Also I would like him to develop a 3p shot other than from the corner. Disappointed in his lack of developing PG skills. His passing and handle are lacking.  And he is undersized for a traditional shooting guard.

We are losing let Olynyk and Faverani play 20 minutes a game. Let them learn on the court.

This team need to pick 2 players and say you are our go to players win or lose. You #1, you will take 18-22 shots a game dont stop shooting. You #2 same thing 14-18 shots a game.  The rest of us will fill in as necessary.

Since Green won't do it.  Sully is #1 he needs 32+ minutes and feed him the [dang] ball.

Dont know who will be #2 may be Bradley when he comes back.

[rondohondo]

Sully has the potential to be a 15-18ppg scorer. He was averaging 20/10 per 36 mins earlerier this year, but then suffered multiple injuries to his shooting hand. First he had that big bulky bandage on his hand for about 5 games, then he dislocated his finger a few games ago.

What he really needs to do is lose about 20 lbs and get a defensive center next to him so he isn't using all his energy on the defensive end fighting with centers .

I still think sully can be a david west type 3rd or 4th best player on a contender

Green and Bradley are just role players IMO

[kozlodoev]

Addressing the three issues in order:

1. He's not that good.

2. He's not that good.

3. He's not that good.

Hmmm, I'm starting to sense a pattern there.

[bcgenuis]

Addressing the three issues in order:

1. He's not that good.

2. He's not that good.

3. He's not that good.

Hmmm, I'm starting to sense a pattern there.

Exactly.  But sometimes you can create an illusion of  a good player because someone has to shoot.  We cannot even do that.
 

[CoachBo]

Pretty much. I have NO interest in paying Bradley anything close to 9 large, and neither will any other sane NBA general manager. As many Celtics are, he is nowhere near as talented as posters on this blog conflate him.

Green is an asset, albeit a limited one. He should be exchanged for another tangible asset, not the rotting corpse of Emeka Okafor - not that Phoenix is stupid enough to make that deal.

Sullinger is someone on which the jury is still out. His health, and his weight concern me.

[RJ87]

I still think highly of Sully (he could be a good 3rd option). This season has been up and down, but you see the potential there. I think he could really become a consistent 16pt/8rb guy. I also don't mind that he's taking 3's - this is the season to experiment. He's got a good-looking shot, if he can add that to his game, it makes him that much more dangerous. It's not like he's jacking up shots, he's taking shots within the flow of the offense.

[GreenWarrior]

sully's size concerns me at least playing at C. id really like to see him playing PF against PF's before I fully judge him. I am leaning towards him not being an all star though.

we have fav and Anthony. there's no reason to not have sully at PF.

[D.o.s.]

sully's size concerns me at least playing at C. id really like to see him playing PF against PF's before I fully judge him. I am leaning towards him not being an all star though.

we have fav and Anthony. there's no reason to not have sully at PF.

Except to keep Fav and JA off the floor, of course.

[SHAQATTACK]

Total disagreement with OP.

Sullinger has far exceeded all my expectations ......and was going like blazes till he dislocated his finger ....a shooting finger

So .....only his unfortunate series of minor injuries has slowed him or his progress.

We are very fortunate to have him.

[pearljammer10]

Addressing the three issues in order:

1. He's not that good.

2. He's not that good.

3. He's not that good.

Hmmm, I'm starting to sense a pattern there.

Have to agree here for the most part but I'll add.

1. Green isn't a number one or number two option, and he is playing out of role on this team... It's just not who he is, and can we really fault him for that? If you put Green, the way he's playing on any contender where he is a third option his year probably isn't so disappointing to most people... He is playing out of role with the Celtics and we are expecting him to play a role he cant play. He is still playing efficient basketball.

2. Sully is only in his second year and he is playing out of position at center. I am so tired of the Celtics not having a legit presence at the center position. Sully has been battling minor injury, is coming back from surgery, is again like Green being asked to play a role he is not cut out to play in the center position, and is only in his second year.

3. Bradley isn't a PG. If you expect him to get better with his PG skills its not going to happen. You can't teach a guy how to become a point guard, the position is very instinctual. Bradley will never possess the skills to make him a PG and to expect him to play this role is again, like the first two, taking their roles out of context.

[droopdog7]

Pretty much. I have NO interest in paying Bradley anything close to 9 large, and neither will any other sane NBA general manager. As many Celtics are, he is nowhere near as talented as posters on this blog conflate him.

Green is an asset, albeit a limited one. He should be exchanged for another tangible asset, not the rotting corpse of Emeka Okafor - not that Phoenix is stupid enough to make that deal.

Sullinger is someone on which the jury is still out. His health, and his weight concern me.

Well, logic dictates that Green should be traded for another limited asset.

[pokeKingCurtis]

Addressing the three issues in order:

1. He's not that good.

2. He's not that good.

3. He's not that good.

Hmmm, I'm starting to sense a pattern there.

Agree with points 1 and 3. Very well put, couldn't have done it better myself.

Point 2, though.

[Mazingerz]

Addressing the three issues in order:

1. He's not that good.

2. He's not that good.

3. He's not that good.

Hmmm, I'm starting to sense a pattern there.

Agree with points 1 and 3. Very well put, couldn't have done it better myself.

Point 2, though.

1. Green is SOFT, and is not aggressive; He should demand the ball;

2. Sully is good; But not superstar level (yet);

3. Bradley IMHO has reached his ceiling; He has become a chucker and we can all see that his defense has relapsed;


I would trade 1 & 3 in a heartbeat;

[BballTim]

Pretty much. I have NO interest in paying Bradley anything close to 9 large, and neither will any other sane NBA general manager. As many Celtics are, he is nowhere near as talented as posters on this blog conflate him.

  How many posters here think Bradley's worth $9M a year? I'd guess they're few and far between.

[chambers]

Addressing the three issues in order:

1. He's not that good.

2. He's not that good.

3. He's not that good.

Hmmm, I'm starting to sense a pattern there.

Exactly.  But sometimes you can create an illusion of  a good player because someone has to shoot.  We cannot even do that.

His name is Avery Bradley and he's exactly that.