Rondo shooting threes??

[cman88]

I've watched a couple games since Rondo has been back. this has been the first I watched in full. but what has stood out to me is it seems like Rondo is taking alot more 3-point shots.

now, he didnt shoot well 2-6 tonight. But do you think this is a conscious effort by Rondo/Stevens to add something to his game?

because if you want to compare him to another PG who wasnt a great shooter in Jason Kidd..it was adding that 3-point shot that elevated his game

[Snakehead]

He spent a lot of time working on his shot.

Read a breakdown on his shooting by Kirk Goldsberry and it had a nice analysis showing him to be above 50% at the elbows (which is fantastic).  Now if he could just pick a spot or two and hit threes from there he would be very dangerous.

His shot has gotten way better.  I'm not going to be surprised if it happens.  Like you say, Kidd did it and that was always my hope for Rondo.

[pokeKingCurtis]

He spent a lot of time working on his shot.

Read a breakdown on his shooting by Kirk Goldsberry and it had a nice analysis showing him to be above 50% at the elbows (which is fantastic).  Now if he could just pick a spot or two and hit threes from there he would be very dangerous.

His shot has gotten way better.  I'm not going to be surprised if it happens.  Like you say, Kidd did it and that was always my hope for Rondo.

Yeah. 1/4 from 3 today iirc. But 2 of them were prayers.

Looked like a knock down shooter from mid-range as well when he took it.

Also, a free throw!

[cman88]

He spent a lot of time working on his shot.

Read a breakdown on his shooting by Kirk Goldsberry and it had a nice analysis showing him to be above 50% at the elbows (which is fantastic).  Now if he could just pick a spot or two and hit threes from there he would be very dangerous.

His shot has gotten way better.  I'm not going to be surprised if it happens.  Like you say, Kidd did it and that was always my hope for Rondo.

Yeah. 1/4 from 3 today iirc. But 2 of them were prayers.

Looked like a knock down shooter from mid-range as well when he took it.

Also, a free throw!

he's been horrible...but to be fair the guy hasn't played NBA basketball in a year

[Snakehead]

He spent a lot of time working on his shot.

Read a breakdown on his shooting by Kirk Goldsberry and it had a nice analysis showing him to be above 50% at the elbows (which is fantastic).  Now if he could just pick a spot or two and hit threes from there he would be very dangerous.

His shot has gotten way better.  I'm not going to be surprised if it happens.  Like you say, Kidd did it and that was always my hope for Rondo.

Yeah. 1/4 from 3 today iirc. But 2 of them were prayers.

Looked like a knock down shooter from mid-range as well when he took it.

Also, a free throw!

he's been horrible...but to be fair the guy hasn't played NBA basketball in a year

13 points, 8 rebounds, 8 assists in 30 minutes is horrible?

[Eddie20]

Read a breakdown on his shooting by Kirk Goldsberry and it had a nice analysis showing him to be above 50% at the elbows (which is fantastic).  Now if he could just pick a spot or two and hit threes from there he would be very dangerous.

Yes, but that also doesn't take into account how open he is during those shots, which is obviously by design. If other PG's had the space and were dared to shoot as often as Rondo is, then there percentages would be through the roof.

[Snakehead]

Read a breakdown on his shooting by Kirk Goldsberry and it had a nice analysis showing him to be above 50% at the elbows (which is fantastic).  Now if he could just pick a spot or two and hit threes from there he would be very dangerous.

Yes, but that also doesn't take into account how open he is during those shots, which is obviously by design. If other PG's had the space and were dared to shoot as often as Rondo is, then there percentages would be through the roof.

He is making the shot at a great percentage.  Some teams sag off Rondo and go under screens... and that is what it is.  Like any smart PG with a jumper, he makes them pay.

He shoots at an elite percentage from midrange.  It is what it is (a good thing). 

Other teams know he shoots those jumpers now.  If they start playing up more they open up the pass.  I don't get why you are trying to slight him, it doesn't make sense.  He is just taking the best play available and doing it at an elite level.

[Eddie20]

He spent a lot of time working on his shot.

Read a breakdown on his shooting by Kirk Goldsberry and it had a nice analysis showing him to be above 50% at the elbows (which is fantastic).  Now if he could just pick a spot or two and hit threes from there he would be very dangerous.

His shot has gotten way better.  I'm not going to be surprised if it happens.  Like you say, Kidd did it and that was always my hope for Rondo.

Yeah. 1/4 from 3 today iirc. But 2 of them were prayers.

Looked like a knock down shooter from mid-range as well when he took it.

Also, a free throw!

he's been horrible...but to be fair the guy hasn't played NBA basketball in a year

13 points, 8 rebounds, 8 assists in 30 minutes is horrible?

Let's not overlook the 5-14 shooting, the 6 turnovers, and the crucial one he had in the last minute to KG.

[pokeKingCurtis]

Read a breakdown on his shooting by Kirk Goldsberry and it had a nice analysis showing him to be above 50% at the elbows (which is fantastic).  Now if he could just pick a spot or two and hit threes from there he would be very dangerous.

Yes, but that also doesn't take into account how open he is during those shots, which is obviously by design. If other PG's had the space and were dared to shoot as often as Rondo is, then there percentages would be through the roof.

You've been watching too much Steph Curry.

All Rondo needs is a knockdown jumper when he's open. Doesn't need to nail shots with 5 guys draped over him.

Along with his ability to finish at the rim and pass, he'd be deadly.

Let's not overlook the 5-14 shooting, the 6 turnovers, and the crucial one he had in the last minute to KG.

Nobody said he played a great game. Just that his shooting looks better.

Missing layups he would normally make if he weren't recovering, not knowing the team that well, this game being a reunion game...all contribute to his faults today.

[Snakehead]

He spent a lot of time working on his shot.

Read a breakdown on his shooting by Kirk Goldsberry and it had a nice analysis showing him to be above 50% at the elbows (which is fantastic).  Now if he could just pick a spot or two and hit threes from there he would be very dangerous.

His shot has gotten way better.  I'm not going to be surprised if it happens.  Like you say, Kidd did it and that was always my hope for Rondo.

Yeah. 1/4 from 3 today iirc. But 2 of them were prayers.

Looked like a knock down shooter from mid-range as well when he took it.

Also, a free throw!

he's been horrible...but to be fair the guy hasn't played NBA basketball in a year

13 points, 8 rebounds, 8 assists in 30 minutes is horrible?

Let's not overlook the 5-14 shooting, the 6 turnovers, and the crucial one he had in the last minute to KG.

He still wasn't horrible.

[Eddie20]

Read a breakdown on his shooting by Kirk Goldsberry and it had a nice analysis showing him to be above 50% at the elbows (which is fantastic).  Now if he could just pick a spot or two and hit threes from there he would be very dangerous.

Yes, but that also doesn't take into account how open he is during those shots, which is obviously by design. If other PG's had the space and were dared to shoot as often as Rondo is, then there percentages would be through the roof.

He is making the shot at a great percentage.  Some teams sag off Rondo and go under screens... and that is what it is.  Like any smart PG with a jumper, he makes them pay.

He shoots at an elite percentage from midrange.  It is what it is (a good thing). 

Other teams know he shoots those jumpers now.  If they start playing up more they open up the pass.  I don't get why you are trying to slight him, it doesn't make sense.  He is just taking the best play available and doing it at an elite level.

It's not a slight, it's being honest. Do you honestly (key word) think Rondo is an "elite" mid-range shooter? Because that's sort of what you're suggesting.

[Snakehead]

Read a breakdown on his shooting by Kirk Goldsberry and it had a nice analysis showing him to be above 50% at the elbows (which is fantastic).  Now if he could just pick a spot or two and hit threes from there he would be very dangerous.

Yes, but that also doesn't take into account how open he is during those shots, which is obviously by design. If other PG's had the space and were dared to shoot as often as Rondo is, then there percentages would be through the roof.

He is making the shot at a great percentage.  Some teams sag off Rondo and go under screens... and that is what it is.  Like any smart PG with a jumper, he makes them pay.

He shoots at an elite percentage from midrange.  It is what it is (a good thing). 

Other teams know he shoots those jumpers now.  If they start playing up more they open up the pass.  I don't get why you are trying to slight him, it doesn't make sense.  He is just taking the best play available and doing it at an elite level.

It's not a slight, it's being honest. Do you honestly (key word) think Rondo is an "elite" mid-range shooter? Because that's sort of what you're suggesting.

He is shooting more than 50 percent.  That is elite.

I don't care what argument you are making... it is irrelevant.  When Rondo is on the court, he makes more than 50% of his midrange shots.

Rondo was actually one of the best elbow shooters in the league last season. Out of 141 NBA players who attempted at least 100 shots from the elbows, Rondo ranked fourth in field goal percentage in that zone — trailing only Jason Smith, Steve Nash, and Jose Calderon. Those are pretty good numbers for a guy who can’t shoot. Per Synergy Sports, he also earned a “very good” rating for shots off the dribble, and an “excellent” rating for long 2-point jumpers.

Now am I saying he is a better shooter than Curry?  No.  But I don't care and it's totally irrelevant.  If you leave Rondo open, he can make the shot at an elite percentage.  And if you don't, he probably has a passing lane.  It just makes him a more complete offensive player.

[pokeKingCurtis]

Read a breakdown on his shooting by Kirk Goldsberry and it had a nice analysis showing him to be above 50% at the elbows (which is fantastic).  Now if he could just pick a spot or two and hit threes from there he would be very dangerous.

Yes, but that also doesn't take into account how open he is during those shots, which is obviously by design. If other PG's had the space and were dared to shoot as often as Rondo is, then there percentages would be through the roof.

He is making the shot at a great percentage.  Some teams sag off Rondo and go under screens... and that is what it is.  Like any smart PG with a jumper, he makes them pay.

He shoots at an elite percentage from midrange.  It is what it is (a good thing). 

Other teams know he shoots those jumpers now.  If they start playing up more they open up the pass.  I don't get why you are trying to slight him, it doesn't make sense.  He is just taking the best play available and doing it at an elite level.

It's not a slight, it's being honest. Do you honestly (key word) think Rondo is an "elite" mid-range shooter? Because that's sort of what you're suggesting.

Semantics?

"Elite" could encompass shot selection.

Players sag off LeBron, too. His jumpers aren't worth any less.

[Eddie20]

Read a breakdown on his shooting by Kirk Goldsberry and it had a nice analysis showing him to be above 50% at the elbows (which is fantastic).  Now if he could just pick a spot or two and hit threes from there he would be very dangerous.

Yes, but that also doesn't take into account how open he is during those shots, which is obviously by design. If other PG's had the space and were dared to shoot as often as Rondo is, then there percentages would be through the roof.

You've been watching too much Steph Curry.

All Rondo needs is a knockdown jumper when he's open. Doesn't need to nail shots with 5 guys draped over him.

Along with his ability to finish at the rim and pass, he'd be deadly.

Let's not overlook the 5-14 shooting, the 6 turnovers, and the crucial one he had in the last minute to KG.

Nobody said he played a great game. Just that his shooting looks better.

Missing layups he would normally make if he weren't recovering, not knowing the team that well, this game being a reunion game...all contribute to his faults today.

It's not just about Curry, it's about every PG who has a respectable shot. You give anyone that space and their percentages will go up. It's only logical.

I realize that he's still recovering, and he'll have better English on his layups, but his biggest adjustment is that he's a pass first pg, with a suspect shot, playing on a team that lacks shooters and scorers.

[Celtics18]

Read a breakdown on his shooting by Kirk Goldsberry and it had a nice analysis showing him to be above 50% at the elbows (which is fantastic).  Now if he could just pick a spot or two and hit threes from there he would be very dangerous.

Yes, but that also doesn't take into account how open he is during those shots, which is obviously by design. If other PG's had the space and were dared to shoot as often as Rondo is, then there percentages would be through the roof.

He is making the shot at a great percentage.  Some teams sag off Rondo and go under screens... and that is what it is.  Like any smart PG with a jumper, he makes them pay.

He shoots at an elite percentage from midrange.  It is what it is (a good thing). 

Other teams know he shoots those jumpers now.  If they start playing up more they open up the pass.  I don't get why you are trying to slight him, it doesn't make sense.  He is just taking the best play available and doing it at an elite level.

It's not a slight, it's being honest. Do you honestly (key word) think Rondo is an "elite" mid-range shooter? Because that's sort of what you're suggesting.

Yes.  Rondo did shoot an elite percentage from midrange during his last healthy season.  The reasons for that percentage may be debatable; the percentage itself is not.

The fact that he shot 48% from 16 to 23 feet on over 3.5 attempts per game is an impressive number.

Numbers courtesy of HoopData.