Ainge:They talked to Rondo about contract extention

[saltlover]

Jay O ‏@MrTrpleDouble10

Ainge also said that because of the CBA rules, it benefits Rondo to not sign an extension but that doesn't mean he didn't WANT to

Danny Ainge, double-negative connoisseur.

This doesn't make any sense. If he wanted to sign an extension, he'd sign it.

A clearer statement of what he was implying, is that Rondo would sign an extension if the dollars weren't limited to what they are.

AKA if the C's could offer him the big deal he'd be eligible for as a FA, he'd have signed it today.

Or in other words, he doesn't want to sign an extension. The reason is kind of moot.

No.  He didn't want to sign the extension he was offered.  That is a very different thing from not wanting to sign any extension.

[kozlodoev]

No.  He didn't want to sign the extension he was offered.  That is a very different thing from not wanting to sign any extension.

That's what not Ainge says at all. He says that Rondo can get a better deal if he doesn't extend -- which to me clearly implies the max extension was offered.

[Chris]

Jay O ‏@MrTrpleDouble10

Ainge also said that because of the CBA rules, it benefits Rondo to not sign an extension but that doesn't mean he didn't WANT to

Danny Ainge, double-negative connoisseur.

This doesn't make any sense. If he wanted to sign an extension, he'd sign it.

A clearer statement of what he was implying, is that Rondo would sign an extension if the dollars weren't limited to what they are.

AKA if the C's could offer him the big deal he'd be eligible for as a FA, he'd have signed it today.

Or in other words, he doesn't want to sign an extension. The reason is kind of moot.

No.  He didn't want to sign the extension he was offered.  That is a very different thing from not wanting to sign any extension.

Or I believe Danny said that he doesn't want to sign an extension right now.  It doesn't make financial sense for him to sign one now.

Which is true. 

It could make more sense this summer.  Or he could wait it out until he is a free agent.

[sed522002]

Jay O ‏@MrTrpleDouble10

Ainge also said that because of the CBA rules, it benefits Rondo to not sign an extension but that doesn't mean he didn't WANT to

Danny Ainge, double-negative connoisseur.

This doesn't make any sense. If he wanted to sign an extension, he'd sign it.

A clearer statement of what he was implying, is that Rondo would sign an extension if the dollars weren't limited to what they are.

AKA if the C's could offer him the big deal he'd be eligible for as a FA, he'd have signed it today.

Or in other words, he doesn't want to sign an extension. The reason is kind of moot.

No.  He didn't want to sign the extension he was offered.  That is a very different thing from not wanting to sign any extension.

Or I believe Danny said that he doesn't want to sign an extension right now.  It doesn't make financial sense for him to sign one now.

Which is true. 

It could make more sense this summer.  Or he could wait it out until he is a free agent.

That's what Ainge said:

“In the Collective Bargaining Agreement, there are limits on what can and can’t be done. Really it’s not that Rondo doesn’t want to accept an extension, but it’s just not financially smart for him to accept it right now,” said Ainge. “We didn’t think he would [sign], but we did tried.”

[paidthecost2betheboss]

LOL at Danny regarding spending some time with or meeting up with P.P. when he comes back

"Zero, I'm past that"

Love it. They are on another team. There will be moments like retired jerseys and such but not now. He's busy chasing banner 18. I was happy to hear that.

BTW. I am now convinced Rondo is gone . He will be offered the max possible and Danny said so but not that Celts would match that. He said he spoke too much as it was and he's right. I think he tipped his card. The narrative is now that they already offered the most they could and R.R didn't bite and that is understandable but it gives Danny cover. He has a cap and he needs to build an entire team.

I'm a huge R.R fan as my post history shows but I think he's not in the long term plan and Danny may feel he gave his best shot when he had it.

I think he gets traded after building up his value. Rondo remember has said zilch. zero. nada. Danny just made an odd manuever that will put some folks off. (I know the reality of the C.B.A and Danny does and a lot of us do but the average fan might just think he was offered a contract and didn't sign

If I were Rondo I might be annoyed by this surprising insight by Danny.

[Moranis]

LOL at Danny regarding spending some time with or meeting up with P.P. when he comes back

"Zero, I'm past that"

Love it. They are on another team. There will be moments like retired jerseys and such but not now. He's busy chasing banner 18. I was happy to hear that.

BTW. I am now convinced Rondo is gone . He will be offered the max possible and Danny said so but not that Celts would match that. He said he spoke too much as it was and he's right. I think he tipped his card. The narrative is now that they already offered the most they could and R.R didn't bite and that is understandable but it gives Danny cover. He has a cap and he needs to build an entire team.

I'm a huge R.R fan as my post history shows but I think he's not in the long term plan and Danny may feel he gave his best shot when he had it.

I think he gets traded after building up his value. Rondo remember has said zilch. zero. nada. Danny just made an odd manuever that will put some folks off. (I know the reality of the C.B.A and Danny does and a lot of us do but the average fan might just think he was offered a contract and didn't sign

If I were Rondo I might be annoyed by this surprising insight by Danny.

the most they can offer now is not the most they can offer. 

[cman88]

no matter what ainge says, fans on the site will think its ainges way of trying to trade ROndo

maybe its just more valuable to rebuild a franchise when you KNOW you already have 1 allstar..its not like the way rondo is playing right now is standing in our way of a top5 pick.

so you have Rondo, say you draft a parker/wiggins and he becomes an allstar...and sullinger continues to develop...thats not a bad core

[PaulAllen]

You absolutely have to extend him and build around him..

1. He is a top 3 overall point guard in the league.. Im not being a biast towards him because he is a celtic but other than CP and Tony Parker there is no other total point guard that is like him in the game... no you can not put Westbrook or Rose in here going on the point 2..

2. Best vision in the NBA which will lead him to more assist titles..

3. One of the best defenders in the league..

4. One of the hardest workers in the NBA

5. team leader, captain

6. While he is not going to be a 30 ppg scorer his stat lines are most impresssive.. a healthy Rondo can do 16ppg 12 ast 6 rbs 3 stls...

show him the money

[Evantime34]

I would like to see several things happen before Rondo gets an extension although each of these things will increase his price
1. Get all his quickness back to a level it was before his injury (this should be evident by his ability to get to the hole)
2. Improve his jump shot, at this point I don't think he is going to improve too much but if he could become a reliable mid range shooter like he was before his injury that would be fine.
3. Starts to put more of an emphasis on staying infront of his man rather than letting the ball go by before swiping at it from behind.

[LooseCannon]

A pro forma contract extension offer to a player coming off of an injury that Ainge knows the other player can't accept? 

That's totally not going to bait conspiracy theorists into thinking Rondo is going to get Perk'ed.

[D.o.s.]

You absolutely have to extend him and build around him..

1. He is a top 3 overall point guard in the league.. Im not being a biast towards him because he is a celtic but other than CP and Tony Parker there is no other total point guard that is like him in the game... no you can not put Westbrook or Rose in here going on the point 2..

2. Best vision in the NBA which will lead him to more assist titles..

3. One of the best defenders in the league..

4. One of the hardest workers in the NBA

5. team leader, captain

6. While he is not going to be a 30 ppg scorer his stat lines are most impresssive.. a healthy Rondo can do 16ppg 12 ast 6 rbs 3 stls...

show him the money

1) No one in the NBA has ever averaged a 16/12/6/3.

2) We have no idea if Rondo will even approach the player he was before the injury, let alone surpass it.

[SHAQATTACK]

Very nice of Celtics to  say ....we want you in public , please come back.    This was the correct polite way to put their mind set out .

But, be sure DA is watching close his progress , and his offer will come according when Rondo free agent .

I still think , how fast DA can find talent for the Club will ultimately determine if he is offered an amount worthy of both parties being content.

If we land a good big or even Wiggens ,   Add a coupe upgrades over Bass or Green .....I think DA will try and keep him.

If he gets only a 6 to 10 pick,   DA may just take the best guard and let Rondo go........slower rebuild

So if you want to see Rondo back......I believe a good tank is necessary to get a top five pick.

[Vermont Green]

It makes no sense for either side to sign an extension right now.  The contract limits discussed above mean there is no way Rondo can sign this season.  From the Celtics perspective, I would not extend him right now even to a home town discount deal based on the way he is playing.

As others have said, maybe next season where Rondo can get one more year and more money from escalation and the Celtics can wait to see more improvement on the court.

I don't see anything surprising or conspiratorial here.

[snively]

All in all, there are two problems with veteran  contract extensions:

1. The salary in the first year of extension is limited to 107.5% of the last year of the current contract (that's about $13.9 million for Rondo)

2. Extension could be for up to 4 years total, including current years. Therefore, we can only extend Rondo for 2 years, given that 2 seasons need to end before his contract expires.

Therefore, the max possible deal on the table is technically 2 years, ~$29 million. I feel like the years are a bigger problem than the money, but in any case there's no need to wiggle around -- Rondo doesn't want to sign that, and he probably shouldn't.

Well, as I mentioned in another thread, if he were going to sign an extension, it would more than likely not be signed until July, so it would be next year.  And they can also give him a 15% signing bonus as well.  With the bonus, the extension could actually be about 3 years/$51 million. 

It is still not as much money as waiting on a possible max deal...but it might be enough to make him take the security.

Yes, if he waits, he could sign a 4 or 5 year extension (although not sure if he would get 5).  But, he would be risking his value dropping next year.  And if he signs the 3 year extension, he will be 32 at the end of it.  He could then concievably be young enough then to get one more decent, longterm contract.  If he were 33 or 34, that might be pushing it.

I think 3 years $51 mil would get it done.  $17 mil per, and still young enough to get another sizable contract at the end, plus insurance against another injury taking a big bite out of his value (a la David West).

There's also the goodwill that the Celtics have built up with Rondo this year.  Keeping him after trading the veteran stars that overshadowed him.  Giving him the Captain honors.  Plus the history Ainge has with him - the guy who drafted him, kept him & extended him and the guy who has already proven his ability to build a championship team.

[snively]

It makes no sense for either side to sign an extension right now. 

Makes sense for the C's, just not Rondo.