Offensive Rebounds

[Dog_Lover106]

IMO, this is at least an 80% hustle and got to want the ball stat? Especially last night playing "team nickname" while desperately undermanned.

So, last night looks like this:

Sully = 8 offensive rebounds
Hump = 4 offensive rebounds
Chris Johnson = 2 offensive rebounds
Jeff Green = 0 offensive rebounds

Hate to go overboard here, but a 2014 version of Kris Humphries or Jared Sullinger on the 2007-2012 Celtics roster, equals three NBA championships instead of one.

[paidthecost2betheboss]

IMO, this is at least an 80% hustle and got to want the ball stat? Especially last night playing "team nickname" while desperately undermanned.

So, last night looks like this:

Sully = 8 offensive rebounds
Hump = 4 offensive rebounds
Chris Johnson = 2 offensive rebounds
Jeff Green = 0 offensive rebounds

Hate to go overboard here, but a 2014 version of Kris Humphries or Jared Sullinger on the 2007-2012 Celtics roster, equals three NBA championships instead of one.

If our Jeff or R.R had even had just a good game we woulda won. Or if Pressey stays in maybe we won. Stevens said from the start that fundamentals like boxing out were going to be top of the list and he can check THAT off. 20 rb games a game with 3 guys over 10rb once I remember and multiple with 2 having 10 plus. It ...if we had shooters would be huge as Hump and Sully are not really creating defensive liabilities getting back since they are often getting the ball. I agree if we had Sully or Hump instead of Perk (who got hurt) we woulda not needed 7 games. we coulda ended that series earlier. Docs coaching aside Hump and Sully can get back and really bruise. Lebron got slammed by both of them yesterday and he's a Tank but Hump falling on him and Sully throwing arms on him takes it's toll. I don't know about 3 rings but that second was just a few boards away.

[PhoSita]

Hate to go overboard here, but a 2014 version of Kris Humphries or Jared Sullinger on the 2007-2012 Celtics roster, equals three NBA championships instead of one.

[GreenWarrior]

IMO, this is at least an 80% hustle and got to want the ball stat? Especially last night playing "team nickname" while desperately undermanned.

So, last night looks like this:

Sully = 8 offensive rebounds
Hump = 4 offensive rebounds
Chris Johnson = 2 offensive rebounds
Jeff Green = 0 offensive rebounds

Hate to go overboard here, but a 2014 version of Kris Humphries or Jared Sullinger on the 2007-2012 Celtics roster, equals three NBA championships instead of one.

if your strictly talking about rebounding then this simply wouldn't be true. doc didn't believe in rebounding.

however, that series we lost to the magic I do believe we were one healthy big away from winning that series. I felt we had that final game we just ran out of bigs.

[furball]

IMO, this is at least an 80% hustle and got to want the ball stat? Especially last night playing "team nickname" while desperately undermanned.

So, last night looks like this:

Sully = 8 offensive rebounds
Hump = 4 offensive rebounds
Chris Johnson = 2 offensive rebounds
Jeff Green = 0 offensive rebounds

Hate to go overboard here, but a 2014 version of Kris Humphries or Jared Sullinger on the 2007-2012 Celtics roster, equals three NBA championships instead of one.

Sadly it probably would not have mattered.  The Celtics did not offensive rebound under Doc Rivers as a strategy. It wasn't necessarily a personnel thing.

[D.o.s.]

I enjoy offensive rebounding.

That said, it doesn't seem to correlate with much post-season success.

2004-
Offensive Rebounding Leader: Utah Jazz
Champion: Detriot Pistons (ranked 9th)

2005-
ORL: Cleveland Cavaliers
Champ: San Antonio Spurs (ranked 12th)

2006-
ORL: Utah
Champ: Miami (ranked 16th)

2007-
ORL: Utah (seeing a trend?)
Champ: San Antonio (ranked 26th)

2008-
ORL: Philly
Champ: Some team no one's ever heard of (ranked 18th)

2009-
ORL: Portland
Champ: Lakers (ranked 3rd)

2010-
ORL: Memphis
Champ: Lakers (ranked 7th)

2011-
ORL: Sacramento
Champ: Dallas (ranked 26th)

2012-
ORL: Chicago
Champ: Miami (ranked 19th)

2013:
ORL: Denver
Champ: Miami (ranked 26th)


Numbers snagged from ESPN (I used offensive rebound rate instead of raw numbers so that pace would be accounted for a little bit):
http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats/_/sort/offReboundRate/year/2013

[kozlodoev]

I enjoy offensive rebounding.

That said, it doesn't seem to correlate with much post-season success.

Actually it does -- most recent champions were poor offensive rebounding teams. Most offensive rebound leaders were poor teams.

[D.o.s.]

I enjoy offensive rebounding.

That said, it doesn't seem to correlate with much post-season success.

Actually it does -- most recent champions were poor offensive rebounding teams. Most offensive rebound leaders were poor teams.

Right, but that'd be a negative correlation.

[kozlodoev]

I enjoy offensive rebounding.

That said, it doesn't seem to correlate with much post-season success.

Actually it does -- most recent champions were poor offensive rebounding teams. Most offensive rebound leaders were poor teams.

Right, but that'd be a negative correlation.

Yes, but it's still a correlation. In fact, there's a good argument to be made that some poor OR teams deliberately keep people from the offensive glass in order to be able to get back on defense faster.

[CelticG1]

Wasnt big baby a good offensive rebounder?

[D.o.s.]

I enjoy offensive rebounding.

That said, it doesn't seem to correlate with much post-season success.

Actually it does -- most recent champions were poor offensive rebounding teams. Most offensive rebound leaders were poor teams.

Right, but that'd be a negative correlation.

Yes, but it's still a correlation. In fact, there's a good argument to be made that some poor OR teams deliberately keep people from the offensive glass in order to be able to get back on defense faster.

I believe you. My last math class was a long time ago.

What you're describing is the Doc River/Greggy Pops approach to the boards, I believe.

[Fafnir]

I enjoy offensive rebounding.

That said, it doesn't seem to correlate with much post-season success.

Actually it does -- most recent champions were poor offensive rebounding teams. Most offensive rebound leaders were poor teams.

Right, but that'd be a negative correlation.

Yes, but it's still a correlation. In fact, there's a good argument to be made that some poor OR teams deliberately keep people from the offensive glass in order to be able to get back on defense faster.

Another reason is that title teams tend to be good shooting teams. Good shooting teams get less value out of crashing the glass.

[Fafnir]

Wasnt big baby a good offensive rebounder?

When asked to be he was. His rookie year and 09-10 he was, but other years his effort waned as he was asked to do more.

Powe was always a beast on the offensive glass too.

[Jailan34]

Wasnt big baby a good offensive rebounder?

When asked to be he was. His rookie year and 09-10 he was, but other years his effort waned as he was asked to do more.

Powe was always a beast on the offensive glass too.

I loved me some Leon Powe, anyone who can annoy Phil Jackson is alright with me.

[Dog_Lover106]

Hate to go overboard here, but a 2014 version of Kris Humphries or Jared Sullinger on the 2007-2012 Celtics roster, equals three NBA championships instead of one.

Would be very hard to debate a different outcome in 2010.

Go into LA for the 7th game in the finals against the biggest and most talented front line in basketball.... without your starting center?

LA kills us on the glass with second chance points, yet still the Celtics have the lead in the fourth quarter.

Then the starters, especially Garnett and Wallace are too gassed to close the game in the last 5 minutes. IMO, with last night's Humphries or Sullinger in game 7 in LA, the Celtics win that game and the championship by ten or more.

Really think the 7 game Heat series could have gone different as well. Second chance points and foul trouble just killed the Celtics.