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Re: Sam Smith (NBA.com) 'Celtics motivated to trade Jeff Green'
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2014, 01:42:42 AM »

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I just did a comment 2 days ago about this and nobody bit? Green is CLEARLY a problem of diminishing returns and locker room poison. The question is how much flak D.A. gets for not getting value for our **cough** great player **cough** :)

He is the anti Rondo. Can see those two souring fast. P.P. and K.G. are gone. Having a moper who throws down on good passes isn't the end all be all for a perfectionist like Rondo. Rondo is like a Meth tweaker with a genius IQ and Green is like a guy with a catheter pumping opium through him 24 hours a day. Rondo just came back and Danny is maybe leaking stuff now because waiting till February or Summer might be more damaging regardless of the return and don't expect too much for Green folks. He was a get for a Perk that was not resigning. Get over it. Danny....good luck!!

Re: Sam Smith (NBA.com) 'Celtics motivated to trade Jeff Green'
« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2014, 03:46:31 AM »

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I would not do this.  Green is just as good on D as Asik is, but he's far superior on O.

I'd rather pay $9M for Green than $7M for Asik any day of the week.  In fact I'd rather draft a starting center than waste such a silly amount of money on a role player with a bad attitude.

Re: Sam Smith (NBA.com) 'Celtics motivated to trade Jeff Green'
« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2014, 04:52:29 AM »

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I would not do this.  Green is just as good on D as Asik is, but he's far superior on O.

I'd rather pay $9M for Green than $7M for Asik any day of the week.  In fact I'd rather draft a starting center than waste such a silly amount of money on a role player with a bad attitude.

Well Asik may be limited offensively but with Rondo he'll be as good as he's going to be- They're a good match together.

Green's an okay player, but as someone mentioned earlier he's a jack of all trades and a master of none. He's not a championship piece unless he's coming off the bench or starting next to Rondo, Carmelo and a Gasol type as the 4th option.
And it's hard to justify that fourth option being paid 9 million when Ray Allen and Rondo were on similar deals on championship contenders.

Move Green for Asik, get a top 5 defensive/rebounding big in the NBA and now you've saved 2 million cap room, whilst clearing space for an elite top 5/10 player at the small forward position.
In the mean time, you've solidified our draft position by losing a few more games with no wing scorer of any kind.
Win win.
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

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Re: Sam Smith (NBA.com) 'Celtics motivated to trade Jeff Green'
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2014, 04:55:33 AM »

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I would not do this.  Green is just as good on D as Asik is, but he's far superior on O.

I'd rather pay $9M for Green than $7M for Asik any day of the week.  In fact I'd rather draft a starting center than waste such a silly amount of money on a role player with a bad attitude.

Personally I wasn't even thinking about Asik because he is a pouty crybaby who has had a lingering deep thigh bruise since he started pouting it seems.  I wouldn't wan't that dude myself but I'm not Danny. I think Green is a piece from the Perk trade that just never exceeded the historical reality of him as a player. Presti did well to lose him and not so much with Harden which shows all GM's have their moments.

I really think with Rondo in the Lockerroom as a player and now Captain Green is not somebody who can put up with Rondo. Sully? Sure. K.O.? sure I think both their dads are coaches or were really involved in their Bball come ups. Pressey even seems to be able to see the bigger picture and how he can have a better future somewhere by having a good one here and now. Bogans? No he's at home. I think that happened just prior to Rondo's return is not a coincidence and neither is a leak that Green is availabe....sheeee....the Celts are "Motivated". Believe half of what you read...or less...but this makes sense.

Green was always NOT in the mold of an Ainge player. I don't think he was ever more than an asset...that is dwindling in value and Danny isn't afraid to admit that. It cost him a Center that was leaving anyway. All things considered whatever J.G. brings back is cake. Asik?? I would hope for a 2015 target for our champ squad's center. Not now...IMO

Re: Sam Smith (NBA.com) 'Celtics motivated to trade Jeff Green'
« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2014, 05:37:30 AM »

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Asik is a more valuable player than Green, and his deal is shorter.

So I'd definitely do that trade.

Plus, there's a solid chance the Celtics can get a long-term SF in the draft.
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Re: Sam Smith (NBA.com) 'Celtics motivated to trade Jeff Green'
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2014, 06:31:52 AM »

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Asik, Sullinger and Humphries would be TOUGH on the boards.

Yep and every small forward with footspeed would blow by them all day.    I think if this happened tankarama would be full bore.  Wallace as our starting SF.

I think Asik would fulfill a need.   I think it's more likely we move a PF, like Sully or Humph than Green right now.   Green has been disappointing though so who knows.

I would not trust Smith as a source.

Re: Sam Smith (NBA.com) 'Celtics motivated to trade Jeff Green'
« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2014, 06:38:27 AM »

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Asik, Sullinger and Humphries would be TOUGH on the boards.

Yep and every small forward with footspeed would blow by them all day.    I think if this happened tankarama would be full bore.  Wallace as our starting SF.

I think Asik would fulfill a need.   I think it's more likely we move a PF, like Sully or Humph than Green right now.   Green has been disappointing though so who knows.

I would not trust Smith as a source.


A Sullinger / Asik frontcourt would be perfectly fine defensively, with the potential to be quite good.

I'd say if a PF is getting moved it'll be Bass.  There may be a market for Hump but I'm not sure how a deal gets done there unless the Celtics are taking back a longer term contract.
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Re: Sam Smith (NBA.com) 'Celtics motivated to trade Jeff Green'
« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2014, 06:52:57 AM »

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Might as well throw one out there:

To Chicago: JGreen and RRondo

To Boston: DRose,KHeinrich and JButler

They get a chance to win this year again, and our chance is still down the road, but a great young player in JButler

Re: Sam Smith (NBA.com) 'Celtics motivated to trade Jeff Green'
« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2014, 07:06:33 AM »

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I would not do this.  Green is just as good on D as Asik is, but he's far superior on O.

I'd rather pay $9M for Green than $7M for Asik any day of the week.  In fact I'd rather draft a starting center than waste such a silly amount of money on a role player with a bad attitude.

Personally I wasn't even thinking about Asik because he is a pouty crybaby who has had a lingering deep thigh bruise since he started pouting it seems.  I wouldn't wan't that dude myself but I'm not Danny. I think Green is a piece from the Perk trade that just never exceeded the historical reality of him as a player. Presti did well to lose him and not so much with Harden which shows all GM's have their moments.

I really think with Rondo in the Lockerroom as a player and now Captain Green is not somebody who can put up with Rondo. Sully? Sure. K.O.? sure I think both their dads are coaches or were really involved in their Bball come ups. Pressey even seems to be able to see the bigger picture and how he can have a better future somewhere by having a good one here and now. Bogans? No he's at home. I think that happened just prior to Rondo's return is not a coincidence and neither is a leak that Green is availabe....sheeee....the Celts are "Motivated". Believe half of what you read...or less...but this makes sense.

Green was always NOT in the mold of an Ainge player. I don't think he was ever more than an asset...that is dwindling in value and Danny isn't afraid to admit that. It cost him a Center that was leaving anyway. All things considered whatever J.G. brings back is cake. Asik?? I would hope for a 2015 target for our champ squad's center. Not now...IMO

I hear you, but remember that to get Asik it doesn't mean he's our center of the future. I mean he could be after playing with Rondo and learning how to hit 65% from the line, but the aim would be similar to gaining DeAndre Jordan and putting him with Rondo- his trade value will sky rocket and he could net us a serious first round pick in the 2015 or 16,17 drafts.
It's all about the future- doesn't mean it's the immediate future ;)
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

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Read that last line again. One more time.

Re: Sam Smith (NBA.com) 'Celtics motivated to trade Jeff Green'
« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2014, 07:07:31 AM »

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I don't think this is reliable we are talking about the nba trade machine anybody can make something up on the trade machine to benefit his or her favorite team and it doesn't make it realistic

Watch this
Pacers Get Joel Anthony
Celtics get Paul George

Hey Works on trade machine lets report that we are about to acquire Paul George

or

Thunder Receive Gerald Wallace and Keith Bogans
Celtics Receive Kevin Durrant

Lets Report that Celtics are about to acquire Durrant

I call bogus on this sorry guys
ok lets do the durant trade!  ;)

Re: Sam Smith (NBA.com) 'Celtics motivated to trade Jeff Green'
« Reply #40 on: January 21, 2014, 08:23:26 AM »

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It makes perfect sense, you can't have 2 average and below average SF's on the team making a combines $20 million. To unload Wallace we would have to give away a bunch of picks IMO, trading Green we make actually get a good player in return. Than you draft a SF and when you finally have to pay him Wallace's contract will be done.

Green or Humph would make sense for Asik IMO.

Re: Sam Smith (NBA.com) 'Celtics motivated to trade Jeff Green'
« Reply #41 on: January 21, 2014, 08:23:26 AM »

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Might as well throw one out there:

To Chicago: JGreen and RRondo

To Boston: DRose,KHeinrich and JButler

They get a chance to win this year again, and our chance is still down the road, but a great young player in JButler
Jimmy Butler isn't even as "great" as Jeff Green.  I'm pretty scared of Rose also- from a health standpoint and an efficiency standpoint.

But Chicago would still be the team to say no.

Re: Sam Smith (NBA.com) 'Celtics motivated to trade Jeff Green'
« Reply #42 on: January 21, 2014, 08:26:27 AM »

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I don't think this is reliable we are talking about the nba trade machine anybody can make something up on the trade machine to benefit his or her favorite team and it doesn't make it realistic

Watch this
Pacers Get Joel Anthony
Celtics get Paul George

Hey Works on trade machine lets report that we are about to acquire Paul George

or

Thunder Receive Gerald Wallace and Keith Bogans
Celtics Receive Kevin Durrant

Lets Report that Celtics are about to acquire Durrant

I call bogus on this sorry guys
ok lets do the durant trade!  ;)

Paul George is younger.

Re: Sam Smith (NBA.com) 'Celtics motivated to trade Jeff Green'
« Reply #43 on: January 21, 2014, 08:29:28 AM »

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I would not do this.  Green is just as good on D as Asik is, but he's far superior on O.

I'd rather pay $9M for Green than $7M for Asik any day of the week.  In fact I'd rather draft a starting center than waste such a silly amount of money on a role player with a bad attitude.

Why are you comparing Green and Asik on defense? They play drastically different positions. One is a SF, the other is a C. They bring different things to the table.

Personally, I am NOT a Jeff Green fan. I'm disappointed that he never matured into a more complete player. At this point, it's clear that something isn't clicking right with him on the team. When he's on, he's not a bad scorer. But he literally brings nothing else to the table (i.e. rebounding/playmaking for others/etc).

Not sure if he gets traded for Asik though (though I would like to actually get a 7 ft center). I feel like Charlotte could be a good partner since they want to make the playoffs this year.

Re: Sam Smith (NBA.com) 'Celtics motivated to trade Jeff Green'
« Reply #44 on: January 21, 2014, 08:55:05 AM »

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Man, people are way too hard on Jeff because he hasn't turned into PP overnight, which is ridiculous. Personally, I think he's a valuable part of the future and could be a great 3rd option on a contender behind Rondo and a max FA or top draft pick.

Maybe a pipe dream, but do people think this starting lineup could contend?

Rondo
Bradley
Green
Sullinger
Gasol, other FA center, or Embiid (depending on the route we go)