So if the Celtics somehow get Carmelo at the trade deadline...

[fairweatherfan]

Where were you, when they built that trade to Melo?

Did it make ya feel like cryin', or did ya think it was really wrong?

Well, we'd just lost...9 of 11, I said, 9 of 11, 9 of 11, 9, 9 of 11, niiiiiiine of eleveeeeen...

[gpap]

I don't think it will ever happen.

I've read that if Melo hits free agency, his preferred destinations are Chicago and the two LA teams.

If Melo doesn't exercise his ETO this summer, he would have to agree to be dealt to a certain team and I am not sure he'll accept coming to Boston.

Personally, I'd rather cash all my "chips" in for Kevin Love.

I think that might be a more realistic scenario.

Sure with Love, the Knicks and Lakers always make it into the conversation but if the Celts add another star player to a Rondo/Love duo, then I've got to think KLove looks at Boston as a legit possibility.

Also, I can't ever see the Knicks and Celts agreeing to such a big deal around Melo.

But I can see Minny dealing Love to the Celts for a package centered around Sullinger and a plethora of draft picks (the whole scenario would be eerily similar to the KG trade.)

[pp34isthe1]

Id rather get a top 5 pick and hopefully do a deal for K-Love.

 But if melo did get traded, signed an extension and somehow C's got Love id name my first born Danny Ainge. Probably my second kid too.

[LarBrd33]

follow up by trading Green for Asik.   Trade some assets for Affalo. You'd have a nice 50-60 win playoff team.

[D.o.s.]

K-Love tangent:

While I understand the arguments for Kevin Love over Carmelo Anthony now given the fact that Melo's almost 30 and K-Love is 25, Carmelo was/is much better at being in the Win column at the end of the game while being the best player on his team.

One dude's never missed the playoffs, the other dude's never been in the playoffs. Both of them playing their first six seasons in a stacked Western Conference, with roughly equal talent around them. That's a pretty massive coincidence, if indeed that's all it is.

[Fafnir]

K-Love tangent:

While I understand the arguments for Kevin Love over Carmelo Anthony now given the fact that Melo's almost 30 and K-Love is 25, Carmelo was/is much better at being in the Win column at the end of the game while being the best player on his team.

One dude's never missed the playoffs, the other dude's never been in the playoffs. Both of them playing their first six seasons in a stacked Western Conference, with roughly equal talent around them. That's a pretty massive coincidence, if indeed that's all it is.

Carmelo had far more talent around him than Love did.

Look at what Melo's doing right now in the Putrid east on his own, and he's having perhaps the best year of his career.

Love has just plain been more productive across the board.

[2short]

Re: So if the Celtics somehow get Carmelo at the trade deadline...

people will remember fondly how brandon bass used to slow down ball movement 

[SparzWizard]

Melo coming to Boston is like Melo playing for the Nuggets again.

Unless, of course, you somehow acquire Kevin Love as well and play him alongside Carmelo, Rondo, and Sully. Then we can probably talk about championships.

[D.o.s.]

K-Love tangent:

While I understand the arguments for Kevin Love over Carmelo Anthony now given the fact that Melo's almost 30 and K-Love is 25, Carmelo was/is much better at being in the Win column at the end of the game while being the best player on his team.

One dude's never missed the playoffs, the other dude's never been in the playoffs. Both of them playing their first six seasons in a stacked Western Conference, with roughly equal talent around them. That's a pretty massive coincidence, if indeed that's all it is.

Carmelo had far more talent around him than Love did.

Look at what Melo's doing right now in the Putrid east on his own, and he's having perhaps the best year of his career.

Love has just plain been more productive across the board.

I'm going to call BS on that one.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DEN/2004.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIN/2009.html


Go forward from there.

Denver's front office was substantially better than Minnesota's, but even that isn't an excuse anymore, since David Kahn's been gone.

[Fafnir]

K-Love tangent:

While I understand the arguments for Kevin Love over Carmelo Anthony now given the fact that Melo's almost 30 and K-Love is 25, Carmelo was/is much better at being in the Win column at the end of the game while being the best player on his team.

One dude's never missed the playoffs, the other dude's never been in the playoffs. Both of them playing their first six seasons in a stacked Western Conference, with roughly equal talent around them. That's a pretty massive coincidence, if indeed that's all it is.

Carmelo had far more talent around him than Love did.

Look at what Melo's doing right now in the Putrid east on his own, and he's having perhaps the best year of his career.

Love has just plain been more productive across the board.

I'm going to call BS on that one.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DEN/2004.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIN/2009.html


Go forward from there.

Denver's front office was substantially better than Minnesota's, but even that isn't an excuse anymore, since David Kahn's been gone.

What BS is there to call?

Andre Miller, Nene, and Camby are all better than Al Jefferson was despite his gaudy numbers and PER. And Al Jeferson is the only player of note on that team, the Nuggets had far more talent all the way through those rosters.

Mike Miller only shot 7.5 times a game on that team in 32 MPG. That's insane Gerald Wallace-esqe aversion to shooting.

Not only that but Kevin Love wasn't played very many minutes, he had far less chance to make his team better till his 3rd year. You can argue that he needed to "earn" them but the other options ahead of him were worse players.

[D.o.s.]

K-Love tangent:

While I understand the arguments for Kevin Love over Carmelo Anthony now given the fact that Melo's almost 30 and K-Love is 25, Carmelo was/is much better at being in the Win column at the end of the game while being the best player on his team.

One dude's never missed the playoffs, the other dude's never been in the playoffs. Both of them playing their first six seasons in a stacked Western Conference, with roughly equal talent around them. That's a pretty massive coincidence, if indeed that's all it is.

Carmelo had far more talent around him than Love did.

Look at what Melo's doing right now in the Putrid east on his own, and he's having perhaps the best year of his career.

Love has just plain been more productive across the board.

I'm going to call BS on that one.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DEN/2004.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIN/2009.html


Go forward from there.

Denver's front office was substantially better than Minnesota's, but even that isn't an excuse anymore, since David Kahn's been gone.

What BS is there to call?

Andre Miller, Nene, and Camby are all better than Al Jefferson was despite his gaudy numbers and PER.

Mike Miller only shot 7.5 times a game on that team in 32 MPG. That's insane Gerald Wallace-esqe aversion to shooting.

Not only that but Kevin Love wasn't played very many minutes, he had far less chance to make his team better till his 3rd year. You can argue that he needed to "earn" them but the other options ahead of him were worse players.

I'm talking from their rookie seasons onward.

No team featuring Kevin Love as its best player has ever come close to even playing .500 basketball.

Although I'm totally biased on this one--I really don't dig the way KLove plays basketball. I've never been more excited for someone to join the Lakers.

[Fafnir]

K-Love tangent:

While I understand the arguments for Kevin Love over Carmelo Anthony now given the fact that Melo's almost 30 and K-Love is 25, Carmelo was/is much better at being in the Win column at the end of the game while being the best player on his team.

One dude's never missed the playoffs, the other dude's never been in the playoffs. Both of them playing their first six seasons in a stacked Western Conference, with roughly equal talent around them. That's a pretty massive coincidence, if indeed that's all it is.

Carmelo had far more talent around him than Love did.

Look at what Melo's doing right now in the Putrid east on his own, and he's having perhaps the best year of his career.

Love has just plain been more productive across the board.

I'm going to call BS on that one.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DEN/2004.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIN/2009.html


Go forward from there.

Denver's front office was substantially better than Minnesota's, but even that isn't an excuse anymore, since David Kahn's been gone.

What BS is there to call?

Andre Miller, Nene, and Camby are all better than Al Jefferson was despite his gaudy numbers and PER.

Mike Miller only shot 7.5 times a game on that team in 32 MPG. That's insane Gerald Wallace-esqe aversion to shooting.

Not only that but Kevin Love wasn't played very many minutes, he had far less chance to make his team better till his 3rd year. You can argue that he needed to "earn" them but the other options ahead of him were worse players.

I'm talking from their rookie seasons onward.

No team featuring Kevin Love as its best player has ever come close to even playing .500 basketball.

Although I'm totally biased on this one--I really don't dig the way KLove plays basketball. I've never been more excited for someone to join the Lakers.

This year is probably the first year Love has been on a more talented roster than Melo. (Last year too probably but Love himself was hurt almost the entire year)

And what do you know, they have a much better record than Melo playing a much tougher schedule and their point differential predicts that they'll be much better going forward as well.

[D.o.s.]

And that's straying from the initial premise--I'm not saying that Carmelo's a better investment now, I'm saying that through the first six years.

Call me when the Love-lead TWolves finish a season over .500. Or make the playoffs. I'll take either.

[Jon]

I've never been a huge Melo fan.  I've always thought he wasn't much of a winner and could never get his team over the hump.  Then again, anyone outside of Boston probably would have said the same about Paul Pierce prior to KG and Ray coming here.  And while we hearken back to some big playoffs appearances in the early 2000s for PP--let's face reality--if the Eastern Conference wasn't so terrible back then (as it is again now), there's no way those Toine/PP teams get out of the first round (and quite possibly don't make the playoffs at all). 

So if the Knicks do decide to blow it up, I'd be interested in Carmelo.  I mean what's the biggest knock on him?  He's not LeBron or Durant?  That's true.  And he may not work out.  But what's the alternative?  Hope we win the lottery AND Wiggins/Parker/whoever is the next LeBron?  Hope we lure the next LeBron (or LeBron himself) here as a free agent?  Hope Durant magically becomes available? 

The NBA is so superstar dominated that it's hard to crack the upper echelon.  Unlike other sports, building depth and balance hardly ever gets it done.  So if we could get Carmelo, keep Rondo, and not give up every asset we have, I'd strongly consider rolling the dice on Carmelo. 

[CoachBo]

Well said. TP.