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Rondo and Gordon Tandem
« on: January 16, 2014, 11:22:56 AM »

Offline beklog

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Rondo and Gordon really looks good... but what will happen to AB??

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According to Bleacher Report, there are at least six likely destinations for Gordon, all of which possess enough assets to hammer the trade. The Denver Nuggets, Cleveland Cavaliers, Charlotte Bobcats, Memphis Grizzlies and the Detroit Pistons could make a run at the explosive swingman, though the Celtics have the package to make the trade work.

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The Celtics might be the most ideal team to make a trade for Gordon, given that they have the assets the Pelicans would like to acquire. Kris Humphries and his expiring contract worth $12 million would surely entice the Pelicans, who will try to create more cap space for the upcoming free agency period. Moreover, the Pelicans will also get Brandon Bass, a player capable of giving the Pelicans more toughness in the interior.

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Re: Rondo and Gordon Tandem
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2014, 11:32:24 AM »

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someone may think the C's have the better package to offer but that doesn't mean they'd want Gordon.  can't see why they would.

AB is getting better with his shooting.  He's not Gordon but he's much better than in previous years.  AB plays great D -- the closest Gordon has ever gotten to D is when he signs his last name.  Neither is much of a playmaker but AB can rebound fairly well for a SG with his athleticism.  Gordon (I could be wrong) doesn't seem like much of one.  Basically, AB's more of a hustler than Gordon (from what I've seen).

AB will be cheaper is the C's resign him by a fair chunk of change and he seems to have been pretty durable this year.  Not ready to say the same about Gordon. 

AB's also younger and still has some room/opporunity to improve. 

Re: Rondo and Gordon Tandem
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2014, 11:43:13 AM »

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I dont trust anything from Bleacher Report, it's not a legit site .

However....

I would do a trade of

Bos sends : Wallace, Bogans , Clips or Nets/Atl pick
NO sends: Gordon

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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2014, 11:45:59 AM »

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I'd love to have Gordon here...  if the Pelicans would take Wallace.  Otherwise, it doesn't make any sense to bring him on board, as we'd have around 45% of our cap tied up in two bad contracts.


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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2014, 11:47:11 AM »

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I dont trust anything from Bleacher Report, it's not a legit site .

However....

I would do a trade of

Bos sends : Wallace, Bogans , Clips or Nets/Atl pick
NO sends: Gordon

I would do this trade but that takes us out of top 5 pick contention.

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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2014, 11:47:37 AM »

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I hope the Cs stay away from Gordon. The talent is there but AB can be signed for less.I also would hate to see max money spent on a undersized injury prone SG.

Maybe the Cs can help facilitate a trade
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=km3knh3

NO gets Humphries + clippers pick from Cs
Bobcats get E Gordon and Green
Celtics get B Gordon, MKG and Biyombo

NO, clears Gordon of books plus gets the big they need and a 1st

Bobcats, build a formidable playoff team but are tied to that team for a while

Cs, get out of Greens deal and add two young struggling prospects
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Re: Rondo and Gordon Tandem
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2014, 11:52:36 AM »

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Why are people hung up on Gordon? He isn't even that good. He can score, but he isn't effiecent. Plus this guy has been injured too many times to even be worth 12 million.

Does anyone seriously think we'd want to go after Gordon who may be taking up a good chunk of our cap space?

If we're going to try to go after someone over 14 million cap space then go after Melo.
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2014, 12:03:43 PM »

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  Stats aren't everything, but here's a comparison for this year between Bradley and some of his mentioned replacements:

http://bkref.com/tiny/qXBYT

  I'd say Stephenson's the only one that looks like a clear upgrade. And, while you could easily argue that Avery's statistically the worst of the four, how much of an upgrade are players like Gordon and Hayward over him? Even Lance? How much more are they worth in assets you'd give up to bring them in, or in salary that you'd have to pay over what Avery would get?

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  Stats aren't everything, but here's a comparison for this year between Bradley and some of his mentioned replacements:

http://bkref.com/tiny/qXBYT

  I'd say Stephenson's the only one that looks like a clear upgrade. And, while you could easily argue that Avery's statistically the worst of the four, how much of an upgrade are players like Gordon and Hayward over him? Even Lance? How much more are they worth in assets you'd give up to bring them in, or in salary that you'd have to pay over what Avery would get?

I have no interest in going away from Bradley... elite defense plus now a capable offensive player? You don't go away from that.

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I'd love to have Gordon here...  if the Pelicans would take Wallace.  Otherwise, it doesn't make any sense to bring him on board, as we'd have around 45% of our cap tied up in two bad contracts.

I like where your head is at Roy.  Maybe offer them Avery Bradley if they'll take Wallace?

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Why are people hung up on Gordon? He isn't even that good. He can score, but he isn't effiecent. Plus this guy has been injured too many times to even be worth 12 million.

Does anyone seriously think we'd want to go after Gordon who may be taking up a good chunk of our cap space?

If we're going to try to go after someone over 14 million cap space then go after Melo.

Someone brought this up in another thread--New Orleans wants to move Gordon, so if you could get them to grab Wallace's contract (Wallace + Bogans expiring works) you're paying 4 million a year to upgrade to a solid offensive SG who would, on paper, work well with Rondo.


That doesn't hold much water if you think that Bradley can be our 2 of the future, because he's almost certainly not going to get as large of a contract.
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Why are people hung up on Gordon? He isn't even that good. He can score, but he isn't effiecent. Plus this guy has been injured too many times to even be worth 12 million.

Does anyone seriously think we'd want to go after Gordon who may be taking up a good chunk of our cap space?

If we're going to try to go after someone over 14 million cap space then go after Melo.

Someone brought this up in another thread--New Orleans wants to move Gordon, so if you could get them to grab Wallace's contract (Wallace + Bogans expiring works) you're paying 4 million a year to upgrade to a solid offensive SG who would, on paper, work well with Rondo.


That doesn't hold much water if you think that Bradley can be our 2 of the future, because he's almost certainly not going to get as large of a contract.

But the thing is..

People NEED to stop posting that trade idea!

The Pelicans were expected to make the playoffs. At this time its a toss up to whether or not they can turn it around. But why would they risk and jeopardize 2 years of their cap space taking on Gerald Wallace? Bogans expiring contract is nice, but even if we offered a first round pick I don't think the Pelicans would bite.

Nothing about Wallace screams leadership or role model. His shooting is terrible, and his FT is worse than Deandre Jordan who is shooting just as paltry 49.1% of his FTs.
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Funny, I thought it was Ben Gordon at first. Who also seems like a potential match for the chips Ainge has at his disposal.
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Why are people hung up on Gordon? He isn't even that good. He can score, but he isn't effiecent.

45.1% FG%, 41.9% 3PT%, .513 eFG%, .558 TS%

Gordon has been efficient.  He's a very good offensive player, or at least scorer.

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If we're going to try to go after someone over 14 million cap space then go after Melo.

That's why I think that Wallace needs to be included.  You then convert a $10 million sunk cost into a $14 million productive player.  It basically works out to paying an extra $4 million to get a productive player.


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