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Sullinger's Flagrants
« on: January 09, 2014, 08:51:01 AM »

Offline winsomme

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Is anybody else bothered by Sullinger's play of late? He's starting to play like a jerk IMO and I really don't like it. It's not enjoyable to watch and it undermines team - which is essential on a squad like this with no stars.

It's also starting to spread. Crawford is starting to play hero ball, players are openly fighting with each other, and the turnovers are becoming insurmountable.

I'm bothered particularly by Sullinger. He seems to be getting personal battles with a player on the opposing team in every game. The last couple of nights it's been Faried and Griffin but it really has been an ongoing problem. I think of interactions with Horford, Reggie Evans, Tyler Hansborough to name a few.

Some might look at this as being tough or hard-nosed. I don't. I think it's a distraction and is affecting how the team is playing. The battles seem to be less about being tough and more about exacting personal retribution against a player on the other team that is bothering him. The result now is that he is on the verge of being suspended for flagrant fouls.

If Sully is going to turn into a main part of the rebuilding process IMO he needs to stop it. I'm actually kinda hoping he gets that next flagrant to see how he responds. I'm wondering if he will act like a brat or will change his behavior. I'm worried that he is heading towards a Rasheed Wallace style of play which would definitely stifle his development into a player we would want to build around.

Maybe I'm overreacting here, but I'm mostly venting because I just don't like watching it. The team is playing so crappy right now, so I think Sully needs to put the team play ahead of his personal vendettas.

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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2014, 08:53:09 AM »

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I think its frustration because he's not playing well, shooting like crap lately.

It doesn't worry me beyond his poor overall play.

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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2014, 08:57:28 AM »

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I think its frustration because he's not playing well, shooting like crap lately.

It doesn't worry me beyond his poor overall play.

I agree that's part of it and certainly why it's getting worse, but he has been getting into these types of interactions all year IMO. And it's starting to define him as a player. I mean part of the reason he got that flagrant last night was due to his behavior the night before.

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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2014, 09:01:03 AM »

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Marc D'Amico*** of Celtics.com notes Sully was going for the ball tonight. He was swiping for the ball.

Blake tried to get cute and go reverse, entangling his OWN head into Sully's arms.

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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2014, 09:06:23 AM »

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Marc D'Amico*** of Celtics.com notes Sully was going for the ball tonight. He was swiping for the ball.

Blake tried to get cute and go reverse, entangling his OWN head into Sully's arms.

That's actually more to my point if true. This is now becoming a reputation thing with Sullinger. In addition to that, to my eye he is definitely getting into battles that are about his personal frustration on a far too frequent basis.

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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2014, 09:10:14 AM »

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Marc D'Amico*** of Celtics.com notes Sully was going for the ball tonight. He was swiping for the ball.

Blake tried to get cute and go reverse, entangling his OWN head into Sully's arms.

That's actually more to my point if true. This is now becoming a reputation thing with Sullinger. In addition to that, to my eye he is definitely getting into battles that are about his personal frustration on a far too frequent basis.

Yeah. I thought he lost us the Bucks game because he let Zaza P get to him, too.

At least he cares. Jeff Green was laughing it up with Doc  :-\

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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2014, 09:12:20 AM »

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Marc D'Amico*** of Celtics.com notes Sully was going for the ball tonight. He was swiping for the ball.

Blake tried to get cute and go reverse, entangling his OWN head into Sully's arms.

That's actually more to my point if true. This is now becoming a reputation thing with Sullinger. In addition to that, to my eye he is definitely getting into battles that are about his personal frustration on a far too frequent basis.

Yeah. I thought he lost us the Bucks game because he let Zaza P get to him, too.

At least he cares. Jeff Green was laughing it up with Doc  :-\
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2014, 09:30:26 AM »

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  I don't think you can put Crawford's play on Sully. Sully does need to tone it down, hopefully 3 flagrants in 2 games will wake him up to that.

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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2014, 09:36:46 AM »

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I think its frustration because he's not playing well, shooting like crap lately.

It doesn't worry me beyond his poor overall play.

This.

You see these episodes of frustration from everybody who cares really. I'd rather see the frustration than not see a reaction with all this losing.

Fwiw, Jared Sullinger is 1st in the NBA in FF with 6.
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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2014, 10:08:18 AM »

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Man I hate the way flagrant are called  in the NBA alongwith how everything eelse is called in the NBA I guess though

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I have no problem with it because I dont think any of his flagrants should be called flagrants. They are just hard fouls. The only one that was a possible flagrant was the elbow and I really dont think that deserved the flagrant call. Sully just gets a bad rap with officials and is now basically in a time out chair.

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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2014, 10:24:46 AM »

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Most of those calls were BS. Let's face it.

You can't hard foul anybody anymore with a league full of floppers and complainers.

With that said, I love Jared Sullinger, and everything he does on the court. The dude cares about this team, and winning.

The refs are picking on him in my opinion so he stops hard fouling. That's what they do. Call certain calls on a player til' they stop doing it.


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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2014, 10:25:06 AM »

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I'll worry when they start calling flagrant fouls on fouls that are actually flagrant.

The fouls they're calling him are a joke.

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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2014, 10:31:22 AM »

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He's going to miss games in the future, that's a problem. Though if he doesn't start shooting better then he needs to sit. We've lost a ton of close games in this slide, having him shoot 30% is a big part of that.

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« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2014, 10:42:19 AM »

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I'm going to agree with Gerald Wallace, who said:

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Like I said, they had everything going, so it is what it is. I'm just happy to see somebody take a hard foul from our bigs," he said. "He's the only big that's willing to take a hard foul not to give up a layup. I'll take that all day. We get hammered going to the hole, we shouldn't allow the other team to just come in and lay it up and dunk on us. I applaud him for that.
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