With Bayless on board how does our Guard depth look like?

[Tr1boy]

Questions are

1) What happens to Pressey as Bayless will likely play backup pg? D league or waived? Anybody know if we won't be responsible for his full contract for the rest of they year if he gets released by a certain date?

2) Does Bogans gets his wish and get playing time or does Brooks finally get some time??

3) But with Rondo coming back and if Jcraw is still here, how does the 2nd unit look like?

In the end does this Bayless trade almost certainly also mean that Jcraw is going to be on the move?  Can't really see both playing pg or sg on the 2nd unit , though we can experiment and see.   

[BballTim]

  I'd be tempted to start Bayless at pg when he's ready to see how Crawford does as a combo guard off the bench, which is really the only role for him going forward. Does he play as well in that situation, and does he accept the role? If he's not trade bait we'd need to find out.

[pearljammer10]

  I'd be tempted to start Bayless at pg when he's ready to see how Crawford does as a combo guard off the bench, which is really the only role for him going forward. Does he play as well in that situation, and does he accept the role? If he's not trade bait we'd need to find out.

My thoughts as well.

[guava_wrench]

  I'd be tempted to start Bayless at pg when he's ready to see how Crawford does as a combo guard off the bench, which is really the only role for him going forward. Does he play as well in that situation, and does he accept the role? If he's not trade bait we'd need to find out.

I don't think Bayless is good enough to justify moving Crawford. It is one thing to move Craw to the bench for Rondo's return. For Bayless? Bayless will have to earn that promotion by actually playing well, which he hasn't been doing this season.

[Snakehead]

  I'd be tempted to start Bayless at pg when he's ready to see how Crawford does as a combo guard off the bench, which is really the only role for him going forward. Does he play as well in that situation, and does he accept the role? If he's not trade bait we'd need to find out.

I don't think Bayless is good enough to justify moving Crawford. It is one thing to move Craw to the bench for Rondo's return. For Bayless? Bayless will have to earn that promotion by actually playing well, which he hasn't been doing this season.

A guy who at most averaged 4 APG won't cut it at starting PG.  That'd be a disaster.

Crawford's aren't too much better across his whole career (though the numbers are) but he has always been a very able passer, if not a willing one til this year.

Craw also has some size to allow Avery to guard the smaller guard.

But yes, people would love to bench Crawford I guess.  I don't see a thing changing except Bayless gets some of Lee's mins and all Pressey's mins and then Bogans plays some.

I'm pretty optimistic and think having him over Lee will bring some more things we need (not that Lee is bad).  This is assuming his shooting comes around.

[BballTim]

  I'd be tempted to start Bayless at pg when he's ready to see how Crawford does as a combo guard off the bench, which is really the only role for him going forward. Does he play as well in that situation, and does he accept the role? If he's not trade bait we'd need to find out.

I don't think Bayless is good enough to justify moving Crawford. It is one thing to move Craw to the bench for Rondo's return. For Bayless? Bayless will have to earn that promotion by actually playing well, which he hasn't been doing this season.

  Both of them are just placeholders anyways. It's not about Bayless beating out Crawford for the starting spot, it's about evaluating Crawford in the only position he'd be useful for going forward.

[Snakehead]

  I'd be tempted to start Bayless at pg when he's ready to see how Crawford does as a combo guard off the bench, which is really the only role for him going forward. Does he play as well in that situation, and does he accept the role? If he's not trade bait we'd need to find out.

I don't think Bayless is good enough to justify moving Crawford. It is one thing to move Craw to the bench for Rondo's return. For Bayless? Bayless will have to earn that promotion by actually playing well, which he hasn't been doing this season.

  Both of them are just placeholders anyways. It's not about Bayless beating out Crawford for the starting spot, it's about evaluating Crawford in the only position he'd be useful for going forward.

Maybe we get an actual back up PG (hard to imagine given the history) but for me part of the Crawford appeal is that he can play some PG if we need him to.  Because Avery really can't but is undersized.  Whoever plays backup SG, it'd be helpful they be able to pass the ball and make plays.

Maybe we draft a SG, or we lose Avery, so who knows, just saying looking forward at this point.

But if Bayless becomes a better passer, I'll be happy.  It'll make the team better.

[pokeKingCurtis]

  I'd be tempted to start Bayless at pg when he's ready to see how Crawford does as a combo guard off the bench, which is really the only role for him going forward. Does he play as well in that situation, and does he accept the role? If he's not trade bait we'd need to find out.

I don't think Bayless is good enough to justify moving Crawford. It is one thing to move Craw to the bench for Rondo's return. For Bayless? Bayless will have to earn that promotion by actually playing well, which he hasn't been doing this season.

  Both of them are just placeholders anyways. It's not about Bayless beating out Crawford for the starting spot, it's about evaluating Crawford in the only position he'd be useful for going forward.

Maybe we get an actual back up PG (hard to imagine given the history) but for me part of the Crawford appeal is that he can play some PG if we need him to.  Because Avery really can't but is undersized. Whoever plays backup SG, it'd be helpful they be able to pass the ball and make plays.

Maybe we draft a SG, or we lose Avery, so who knows, just saying looking forward at this point.

But if Bayless becomes a better passer, I'll be happy.  It'll make the team better.

That's part of the reason I kind of would have liked to have Tyreke Evans on the team. AB, Rondo and Evans is a very nice guard lineup and Evans could even play some 3 (as he is doing now in NO I believe).

[D.o.s.]

  I'd be tempted to start Bayless at pg when he's ready to see how Crawford does as a combo guard off the bench, which is really the only role for him going forward. Does he play as well in that situation, and does he accept the role? If he's not trade bait we'd need to find out.

I don't think Bayless is good enough to justify moving Crawford. It is one thing to move Craw to the bench for Rondo's return. For Bayless? Bayless will have to earn that promotion by actually playing well, which he hasn't been doing this season.

  Both of them are just placeholders anyways. It's not about Bayless beating out Crawford for the starting spot, it's about evaluating Crawford in the only position he'd be useful for going forward.

Is there really any reason to do that until Rondo's playing again, though?

Worst case scenario, Crawford checks out on the team once he's back to being the 6th man/15-20 minute combo guard of the bench... then you have Bayless, who can offer you pretty much the same production as non-interested Crawford.

If that's the way the cookie crumbles, it seems like the contingency plan is already in place, assuming the roster stays stable among the guards.

[PhoSita]

Same starters, Bayless and Bogans should get most of the backup minutes.

Definitely a worse rotation because of the overlap between Crawford and Bayless.

[vjcsmoke]

Well Crawford is the guy for now.  Trading Lee was all about saving money.  Rondo isn't healthy yet and we certainly don't want to rush him coming back.

I see Bayless as the backup point/backup SG.  He likes to score more than pass anyways.  As for Brooks and Pressey.  Those guys are borderline NBA players and might see some time with the Red Claws.  AB is strictly a SG, we've all seen him at PG and that's definitely not a position he can play well at all.

[Mr October]

  I'd be tempted to start Bayless at pg when he's ready to see how Crawford does as a combo guard off the bench, which is really the only role for him going forward. Does he play as well in that situation, and does he accept the role? If he's not trade bait we'd need to find out.

That is a great idea. I would like to see this for at least a few games.

[ScoobyDoo]

Crawford / Bayless / Pressey
Bradley / Brooks / Bogans

For me:

1. I wouldn't move Crawford from the starting PG until Rondo comes back.

2. When I put Bayless in at back up PG, I'd slide Crawford to the two spot to see how he works in that position.

3. I'd give Brooks a lot of run at the two behind Bradley - see if he can gain any rhythm.

4. Bogans has absolutely "zero" to do with our future - he is the last guy I would give any minutes to.
If he had issue with that, I'd ask him if he were Ok with me paying him $5 million this year to be a veteran mentor and professional?


 

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Crawford / Bayless / Pressey
Bradley / Brooks / Bogans

For me:

1. I wouldn't move Crawford from the starting PG until Rondo comes back.

2. When I put Bayless in at back up PG, I'd slide Crawford to the two spot to see how he works in that position.

3. I'd give Brooks a lot of run at the two behind Bradley - see if he can gain any rhythm.

4. Bogans has absolutely "zero" to do with our future - he is the last guy I would give any minutes to.
If he had issue with that, I'd ask him if he were Ok with me paying him $5 million this year to be a veteran mentor and professional?


 

I agree with everything you said.  Keep starting Crawford unless Bayless seriously wins the starting point guard spot.  If and when Rondo comes back this season, then we get to decide who is the better back up combo guard Crawford or Bayless.  I actually expect it to be crawford.

[2short]

well i understand the point of moving crawford to the bench to see how he would do with combo guard time
you could also do that with bradley?
but until rondo is here
pg crawford, bayless, pressey (limited)
sg lee, bayless, bogans (limited)

brooks no chance