Celtics to trade Lee for Jerryd Bayless?

[2short]

If this was already mentioned forgive me for not reading through all the posts (no glasses)
Can this mean Crawford is soon to go , maybe in a package with bass?
Bayless can play pg pressey can back him up and looming on the horizon is rondos return

[greg683x]

espn has an article written up for the trade being accepted but it doesnt look like theyve decided to post it yet, unless ive overlooked it onthe headlines on the main and nba pages.  I googled jerryd bayless and the article popped up.  Heres a link to it....


http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10247719/boston-celtics-looking-trade-courtney-lee-memphis-grizzlies-jerryd-bayless

[BballTim]

BTW, howmany of the CB old timers remember the trade Rondo for Bayless threads years ago and how people scoffed at how Portland would never trade a talent like Bayless who could shoot and score for someone like Rondo.

  You know how it is. Any young pg that has a decent stretch of play is either better than Rondo or "soon will be".

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

I'm surprised at this trade, because I hadn't heard any rumors, but I like it.

The trade for Lee was a good one when it was made—Danny got creative to acquire a shooter to help KG and Pierce on one more run. That plan didn't work out and has since been scrapped for a new (rebuilding) plan, and Lee didn't quite fit in with that (at least, not with that contract). Today's trade saves the Cs some money this season, but more importantly opens up cap space over the next couple seasons.

I like Lee and wish him well, but this is a good step for a rebuilding Cs team.

[ChefEricT]

If this was already mentioned forgive me for not reading through all the posts (no glasses)
Can this mean Crawford is soon to go , maybe in a package with bass?
Bayless can play pg pressey can back him up and looming on the horizon is rondos return

I was thinking either Crawford or Bradley could be next.  Either way, I think there is more to come.  Even though this was a relatively small trade, it has me quite excited.  Nobody was talking about this before it happened.  I think it's safe to say that we all love to play GM (especially in a time of rebuilding) and many ideas are posted on here (though I haven't contributed much in a while), but nobody was talking about this possibility.  Going back to the assembly of GPA, we were posting all sorts of ideas, but Garnett didn't look like a realistic possibility and nobody was talking about Allen.  Out of left field, Danny trades for Allen and Garnett becomes realistic.  As much as we love to play GM, we can't get in Danny's head.  He's super creative and when everybody is looking left, he pulls off a trick from the right.  It just goes to show, we have no idea what is next, but I sure am excited to see.

[LarBrd33]

BTW, howmany of the CB old timers remember the trade Rondo for Bayless threads years ago and how people scoffed at how Portland would never trade a talent like Bayless who could shoot and score for someone like Rondo.

  You know how it is. Any young pg that has a decent stretch of play is either better than Rondo or "soon will be".

That's not how it is.

[crownontherocks]

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Lee thanks Boston
Classy move

[chambers]

I knew that there was something behind sending Marshon Brooks to the D-League.

I thought this was happening-

Quote from: chambers on January 02, 2014, 06:11:42 AM

Of course it could be he's just getting some game time because he's got nothing better to do on the bench of the C's.

I should have worded my last post better but its hard to type a lot on the cell phone sometimes.

I agree with shak that something is fishy, we have different thoughts on why something fishy is up.

For a team that's trying to develop young guys, this may be the best way to do just that by giving Brooks some game time in D League.
It's just my personal opinion that he's been put on ice while we showcase the other guards.
Statistically he's a pretty good player on offense and his defense is average.
In Brooklyn in his second year he was shooting 46% from the field in 4 attempts a game as a jumpshooter althought his three point shooting was poor. His form looks good though and it's tough to say how much better he's gotten from behind the arc considering his pathetic playing time.

I'd say there's a big chance that we trade one or two of Lee, Bradley and Crawford and he slides into the regular rotation- that's what I mean by something 'fishy' being up.
Just pure speculation on my behalf but taking him out and giving him serious time with the scrubs is being done for a reason.
They said he wont be there long so maybe something is in the works

TP... should free up some minutes for Brooks.

How does trading a very good role playing guard for a very good role playing guard open up time for MarShon Brooks, a guard and the last player on the depth chart, a horrible one at that?

Lee took SG minutes, Bayless more than likely will take PG minutes. That means it's more likely that Bayless would be taking on Pressey's minutes as oppossed to Lee taking on potential Brook minutes. But Bayless can function out there with two PGs on the floor... but it's a different dynamic rotation wise.

Bayless is a combo guard, and a pretty good one at that. He can just take on Lee's role.

Now if Brooks starts getting minutes over Bayless, then I am going to start believing that Ainge is telling Stevens who to play and who not to play in a full out tank job. There's just no way Brooks deserves minutes over Bayless. Bayless is just too good.

Bayless is a good player but he's wild and unpredictable. He'll be reigned in under Steven's system ala Jordan Crawford.

I think there's a very good chance that Brooks is a rotation player now. It depends on where Stevens plays Bayless.
Does he bring Bayless in off the bench or does he start Bayless at PG and Bradley at SG with Craw off the bench?

I can see Pressey and Marshon's minutes being essentially swapped.
SG's: Bradley, Brooks
PG: Crawford, Bayless

Crawford and Bayless interchangeable combo guards.

We'll potentially see another move come shortly that will cement the guard rotation.
I wonder who goes...Bradley or Crawford?

[SHAQATTACK]

Sad to see Lee go …just now picked his game up a notch …but in the long scheme of things its the right move and puts him on a nice team where he can get time and playoffs

[nickagneta]

BTW, howmany of the CB old timers remember the trade Rondo for Bayless threads years ago and how people scoffed at how Portland would never trade a talent like Bayless who could shoot and score for someone like Rondo.

  You know how it is. Any young pg that has a decent stretch of play is either better than Rondo or "soon will be".

In fairness that was back in 2008-09 but yeah, that happens a lot.

[Kuberski33]

so if we can move bass for an expiring could we offer a max contract next year?

Say we move Bass for expiring  , and bottom out with a top 5 pick...

Sign Melo to a max deal

Now have the # 5 or higher pick to draft or trade for another big piece .

Melo is your # 1 scorerer and finisher
Sully is the # 2 option and beast in the low post
Rondo is # 3 option and sets everyone up
Green as 6th man off bench
-Bradley would fit perfectly at 2 guard, but not sure we can resign him , and still sign a max FA ?

We would be a rim protector away from a legit contender IMO

Melo or any other established 'max' caliber player isn't coming here.  Best chance is someone we'd hope will develop into that kind of talent - i.e. Hayward.

[tyrone biggums]

so if we can move bass for an expiring could we offer a max contract next year?

Say we move Bass for expiring  , and bottom out with a top 5 pick...

Sign Melo to a max deal

Now have the # 5 or higher pick to draft or trade for another big piece .

Melo is your # 1 scorerer and finisher
Sully is the # 2 option and beast in the low post
Rondo is # 3 option and sets everyone up
Green as 6th man off bench
-Bradley would fit perfectly at 2 guard, but not sure we can resign him , and still sign a max FA ?

We would be a rim protector away from a legit contender IMO

Melo or any other established 'max' caliber player isn't coming here.  Best chance is someone we'd hope will develop into that kind of talent - i.e. Hayward.

I strongly disagree with this. If the Celtics keep Rondo and this player wants to play with Rondo then why not? It's not like the weather is any worse in Boston. Plus you add in Sullinger and a top pick and this becomes a very attractive situation.

I remember when it was the said the Boston Red Sox would never attract top free agents either. People need to stop acting like coming to the Celtics is worse than going to the Bucks.

[BballTim]

  Without reading 7 pages to see if this came up, I wonder if Houston would be more interested in Bass/Bayless(expiring) than Bass/Lee to go with the Clips pick. It's, what, $13M less in salary?

[BudweiserCeltic]

  Without reading 7 pages to see if this came up, I wonder if Houston would be more interested in Bass/Bayless(expiring) than Bass/Lee to go with the Clips pick. It's, what, $13M less in salary?

Bayless probably can't be traded on the trade deadline... that's why Houston wanted to trade Asik in mid December.

[Kuberski33]

so if we can move bass for an expiring could we offer a max contract next year?

Say we move Bass for expiring  , and bottom out with a top 5 pick...

Sign Melo to a max deal

Now have the # 5 or higher pick to draft or trade for another big piece .

Melo is your # 1 scorerer and finisher
Sully is the # 2 option and beast in the low post
Rondo is # 3 option and sets everyone up
Green as 6th man off bench
-Bradley would fit perfectly at 2 guard, but not sure we can resign him , and still sign a max FA ?

We would be a rim protector away from a legit contender IMO

Melo or any other established 'max' caliber player isn't coming here.  Best chance is someone we'd hope will develop into that kind of talent - i.e. Hayward.

I strongly disagree with this. If the Celtics keep Rondo and this player wants to play with Rondo then why not? It's not like the weather is any worse in Boston. Plus you add in Sullinger and a top pick and this becomes a very attractive situation.

I remember when it was the said the Boston Red Sox would never attract top free agents either. People need to stop acting like coming to the Celtics is worse than going to the Bucks.

Weather's too cold and team is too far from contending.  It's very, very difficult to attract a legitimate max player to a cold weather city that isn't NY.  BTW I'm not sold on Sully.  He's had serious problems when you defend him with size.  I'm not so sure his ceiling isn't slightly above a Big Baby Davis or Bass.  I think he needs a shot blocker at the 5 to not be anything more than an average defender.  Hope Im wrong.